NecrosaroIII
Ultimate DQ Fan
They basically expanded out Dark Elves so that cities like Menzoberranzan are evil, bit there are large groups of non evil drow living in the underdark. They also retconned why the drow were driven undergrown
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First Trailer for Dungeons and Dragons Honor Among Thieves (2023 film)
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They basically expanded out Dark Elves so that cities like Menzoberranzan are evil, bit there are large groups of non evil drow living in the underdark. They also retconned why the drow were driven undergrown
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
Why were they driven underground? I forgot that detail
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pramod
Banned
I dunno, like others have said, I wish they didn't go the "Disney MCU" route with something obviously made for kids, but maybe they just thought this was the "safest" way to make a blockbuster these days.
Also I dunno why they didn't just make the Dragonlance movies. That could have been something to rival the LOTR films if done right. But oh well.
Also I dunno why they didn't just make the Dragonlance movies. That could have been something to rival the LOTR films if done right. But oh well.
Wildebeest
Member
Uh, not bad?
IMO people don't have a clue how to play heavy metal dark fantasy because they are stuck with GRR Martin or Lovecraft and haven't read the king, Moorcock, like everyone would have in the early days of D&D. Well, there still is Warhammer 40k, but that is almost like going to church with how Christian it is.
IMO people don't have a clue how to play heavy metal dark fantasy because they are stuck with GRR Martin or Lovecraft and haven't read the king, Moorcock, like everyone would have in the early days of D&D. Well, there still is Warhammer 40k, but that is almost like going to church with how Christian it is.
BaneIsPain
Member
It seems a fun movie without any expectations. Can they bring jeremy irons for cameo?
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
How's Warhammer 40k Christian?
kuncol02
Banned
I guess because gothic cathedrals, herubs and literal angels (Saint Celestine) on battlefield. It's still stupid argument because metal heavily borrowed from christian iconography.
Wildebeest
Member
I'm talking about Moorcock, and you obviously don't get it, so take your "stupid arguments" elsewhere.
Amiga
Member
this x 1000000
ClanOfNone
Member
Actual Harpers and Red Wizards of Thay in a D&D movie, color me surprised.
Lunarorbit
Member
Like landfill's brother Gil.
This looks way better than a d&d movie should. Tons of monsters too! Cgi isn't horrible amazingly. I'm actually kinda excited to watch this.
Dr_Salt
Banned
You can't compete with LOTR with the budget they have. No one is gonna pay big bucks to produce a DnD movie. This is the best route they could have taken. If they went LOTR route people would have just thought of it as low budget LOTR clone.
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Doom85
Member
Asking for no humor in a Dungeons and Dragons movie feels like sacrilege to me. Most D&D groups will either go goofy from the get-go or eventually evolve into it on some level, or you have the tryhards who want to make a serious and compelling narrative but ultimately results in either unintentional goofiness on their part (the 2000’s D&D movie was this, ironically for all the hate he gets it was clear Snails’ player was the only one who saw the stupid writing for it was and just went goofy so the other players pressured the DM to kill him off so they could get back to their “serious” campaign) or an edgelord “dark” story that will impress teenagers and people who thought Elden Leid and Akame ga Kill were good manga/anime. 
And before anyone is all, “nah, bro, there’s legit good serious D&D novels!”, I’m not disputing that, but rather most DM’s ability to write their own actual solid dark campaign (and for all the players to stick to that tone).
This movie definitely represents what I think most people’s D&D campaigns are genuinely like. Also glad they’re not military or self-appointed “champions of justice”, but rather a rag tag bunch (who fucked up and have to fix their mistake probably out of pure self preservation) as I feel like that’s what a lot of parties end up being (or at least for a while). Though apparently that Rege-Jean guy is playing a Paladin so I could see him annoying the others occasionally with a bit of self righteousness.
And before anyone is all, “nah, bro, there’s legit good serious D&D novels!”, I’m not disputing that, but rather most DM’s ability to write their own actual solid dark campaign (and for all the players to stick to that tone).
This movie definitely represents what I think most people’s D&D campaigns are genuinely like. Also glad they’re not military or self-appointed “champions of justice”, but rather a rag tag bunch (who fucked up and have to fix their mistake probably out of pure self preservation) as I feel like that’s what a lot of parties end up being (or at least for a while). Though apparently that Rege-Jean guy is playing a Paladin so I could see him annoying the others occasionally with a bit of self righteousness.
Trazyn the Infinite
Member
Explain? How is WarHammer 40K “Christian”? Yes, it uses certain iconography indicative of abrahamic religions, but it also borrows heavily from many others as well.
Fbh
Member
Looks really fun. As others have said I think the humor fits the source material. I'm not a D&D player myself but literally every time anyone has told me about a memorable campaign that they have played it involves a lot of funny and ridiculous stuff.
Since they are clearly taking some Marvel inspiration, I just hope it's more like Guardians of the Galaxy 1 and less like the newer Thor Movies. The writers and directors on this don't have a particularly good track record.
Since they are clearly taking some Marvel inspiration, I just hope it's more like Guardians of the Galaxy 1 and less like the newer Thor Movies. The writers and directors on this don't have a particularly good track record.
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Wildebeest
Member
Come on man. You would find it hard to make something that leans more on Christian mythology, imagery and terminology than 40k.
NecrosaroIII
Ultimate DQ Fan
In the old lore, there was a war between Corellon (the god of the elves) and Lolth(the goddess of the drow). Corellon won. Lolth's followers were cursed and driven underground.
Dr_Salt
Banned
I don't get why people want this movie to be a LOTR clone. I'm pretty sure the people who are complaining about the humor have never played D&D.Asking for no humor in a Dungeons and Dragons movie feels like sacrilege to me. Most D&D groups will either go goofy from the get-go or eventually evolve into it on some level, or you have the tryhards who want to make a serious and compelling narrative but ultimately results in either unintentional goofiness on their part (the 2000’s D&D movie was this, ironically for all the hate he gets it was clear Snails’ player was the only one who saw the stupid writing for it was and just went goofy so the other players pressured the DM to kill him off so they could get back to their “serious” campaign) or an edgelord “dark” story that will impress teenagers and people who thought Elden Leid and Akame ga Kill were good manga/anime.
And before anyone is all, “nah, bro, there’s legit good serious D&D novels!”, I’m not disputing that, but rather most DM’s ability to write their own actual solid dark campaign (and for all the players to stick to that tone).
This movie definitely represents what I think most people’s D&D campaigns are genuinely like. Also glad they’re not military or self-appointed “champions of justice”, but rather a rag tag bunch (who fucked up and have to fix their mistake probably out of pure self preservation) as I feel like that’s what a lot of parties end up being (or at least for a while). Though apparently that Rege-Jean guy is playing a Paladin so I could see him annoying the others occasionally with a bit of self righteousness.
PaddyOCanager
Member
Yeah my main concern with this movie is that it's going to have an identity crisis to deal with. If people want something serious, then they need to wait for a Forgotten Realms movie, not a D&D movie.
A D&D movie should be self-aware, with an almost Deadpool-esque acknowledgment of the fourth wall. I hope the main characters in this movie talk modern while everyone in the "world" talks like typical fantasy npcs.
Trazyn the Infinite
Member
I don’t think you have ever actually played 40K if this is your “defense” of your claim.
PaddyOCanager
Member
Yeah I'm baffled by this as well.........he's either never played 40k or never been to church.
Wildebeest
Member
I don't know what you are talking about with this supposed "defence" which is for some reason needed. But you show a very bad attitude if you actually want me to engage with you.
While I think a Jumanji style 4th wall breaking DnD game would be a blast, this trailer is NOT selling that kind of film. This looks to be much more in the vein of The Mummy (Fraser version), Uncharted, or the MCU films in that it is a semi-comedic adventure film. So if it is full of things like stock NPCs or characters playing new versions of themselves I'm worried the trailer is pulling a bait and switch that general audiences will not appreciate. This film looks FAR too expensive to be a real love letter to core DnD fans in that way. I'm pretty happy with semi-accurate spell depictions, use of the bestiary, and maybe some Forgotten Realm celebrity cameo easter eggs. I don't think I need to see a character "level up" and suddenly gain the use of two weapon fighting, the faint sound of rolling dice during combat, some sort of direct reference to alignment, or things like that. More subtle nods though, go for it.
Hopefully it does well though and opens up the door to both more dramatic DnD storytelling and 4th wall stuff.
Hopefully it does well though and opens up the door to both more dramatic DnD storytelling and 4th wall stuff.
Dr_Salt
Banned
There is a TV show coming after by the same people.
Really? Any info on that? I always view "tv show after the movie!!" rumors as suspect until the film is out and is a rousing success. Pre-planned stuff like this rarely seems to work out (Gunslinger, I'm looking at you!).
Trazyn the Infinite
Member
I have shown no poor attitude, but you keep projecting without providing any real explanation for your claims.
Dr_Salt
Banned
I correct myself it seems it is not by the same people but they do have something planned.
https://deadline.com/2022/01/dungeo...es-write-direct-game-eone-1234923199/#respond
Color me SHOCKED that they use the term "Dungeon Master" in that article. Has that term been deemed problematic yet? I hear it shortened to DM from a lot of folks that otherwise I'd expect some term moaning from (the same types of folks that try to say the word "latinx" in conversation).
Anyway, not that excited about "unscripted" DnD content, youtube and podcasts seem to have that arena locked down, but a regular show could be cool.
BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
Trailer breakdown from the Forgotten Realms Fandom wiki:
forgottenrealms.fandom.com
Honor Among Thieves trailer breakdown
forgottenrealms.fandom.com
March Climber
Member
This feels like a movie where a fun twist could be that the main characters are aware that they're in a DnD campaign.
Fugitive Sex
Member
Looks shit. American "humour".
ZywyPL
Banned
99% chance it's gonna turn out the whole action is just imaginary by kids playing an actual board D&D.
DKehoe
Gold Member
I always took the shortening to DM to just be a convenience thing rather than some political correctness. Like how player characters are PCs and non player characters are NPCs. What would even be problematic about it?
Lol, yeah, this is just looking for problems. I've called it DM since the 90s, and that's what everyone around have done too.
There was a movement, which may have fizzled by now, to replace the term "master" as it could be interpreted as implying domination over others. The master/slave computer terms for example, and it even spread to real estate with the 'master bedroom' being called the 'primary bedroom'. I've seen word substitution lists that recommend using 'expert' instead of master(y of a skill).
So while I'm glad this term has been preserved, I'm a little surprised the new crowd at DnD hasn't gone after it like they did some other parts of the game. WOTC has it trademarked, I think, so maybe they defend it at a corporate level.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Good fantasy is hard to do. Looks decent enough. I'll give it a shot if the reviews are okay.
Trazyn the Infinite
Member
Prior to joining, I remember reading one user in particular tried to claim that using “master” was insulting. Same with “Slave” regardless of the context. I am sure there are plenty of others in this wide internet of fools that believe such utter tripe.
DKehoe
Gold Member
Prior to joining here? Was that in the context of D&D or using it in any form?
But either way, you can’t really concern yourself with what one or even a handful of people online say. You’ll drive yourself crazy that way.
ManaByte
Member
I want them to go to a tavern and put a prostitute they like into a Bag of Holding, only to pull her out later and find that she died (due to there not being air in the Bag of Holding).
Trazyn the Infinite
Member
Yes. I was a lurker for most of the time. GAF was good Toilet reading. It was in regards to Slave Drives and Master Drives on PCs, IIRC. Then it delved into some other terminology use. I think the user even got a mocking title because of it. That was when I knew I should join. Moderation that pokes fun at regressive children means the community is in good hands.
Oh, I agree entirely. But sadly those "handful" of regressives have made great strides to ruin things that I love and actively participate in. From D&D itself (had my D&D group banned because we continued to refer to Orcs and Drow as evil) to beloved franchises getting ruined via localization (started learning Japanese around 4 years back and now can read most of the games decently enough just so I can experience them as they should be).
What now? How does a DnD group get banned?
Trazyn the Infinite
Member
Local store. Store owner is a massive… jackass. Claimed we were being “racist” be referring to orcs and drow as evil.
Holy hell! That is complete lunacy.
Funny thing is he can't see the irony in how he's the racist for suggesting drow and orcs somehow represent humans.