-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Fitness |OT4| Squat Booty, Summer Cuts, and Super Swoletrophy
- Thread starter Mr.City
- Start date
- Status
Spiritreaver
Member
it can be done pretty easily when you're starting out, especially if you're quite overweight. You';re going to lose fat regardless of what you do as long it's doing something healthy you didn't do before. Throw it all together and you will get amazing results. Muscle, strength gain, fat loss, confidence, so on.
As they said, eat well, eat to preserve muscle best you can, train well and regularly (lifting is essential). You can get by with pretty light cardio too. You'll see the results. It's what I did.
Most of my transformation happened within my first year. Major weight loss ontop of newbie strength and size games. It was an unreal feeling. When I got down to the lower BFs, size definitely went down, but I still managed to very slowly build strength. I think I've hit the point where that is no longer a viable option for future goals, so I'm jumping into that bulk/cut mindset.
You can see some amazing results with pretty minor changes. If you can find someone of my posts about my journey in the fitness/weight loss threads, check them out.
As they said, eat well, eat to preserve muscle best you can, train well and regularly (lifting is essential). You can get by with pretty light cardio too. You'll see the results. It's what I did.
Most of my transformation happened within my first year. Major weight loss ontop of newbie strength and size games. It was an unreal feeling. When I got down to the lower BFs, size definitely went down, but I still managed to very slowly build strength. I think I've hit the point where that is no longer a viable option for future goals, so I'm jumping into that bulk/cut mindset.
You can see some amazing results with pretty minor changes. If you can find someone of my posts about my journey in the fitness/weight loss threads, check them out.
TheDarkStark
Member
For the average person trying to gain or lose 10-15lbs you're absolutely right, cutting/bulking cycles are the way to go.
But for somebody who is obese, the same rules just don't apply. First of all just carrying around that much weight they're going to be pretty damn strong. Every time a 330lb guy bends down it'd be like an average guy (around 160lbs) doing 170 lb squats.
So if you're lifting, you're going to at least keep most of your muscle, your body needs it to survive. On top of that you're going to get newbie gains (which we all know is is pretty enormous).
The problem with a lot of obese people who succeed in losing weight is they go on EXTREME caloric deficits, and lose weight at an unhealthy pace, and all the muscle along with it.
Hari Seldon
Member
So I watched the Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead documentary on netflix yesterday. Anyone try replacing meals with the vegetable juice as described in that documentary? The results in the doc were amazing really. I'm thinking of doing it in replacement of breakfast and lunch.
The doc is available online as well: http://www.jointhereboot.com/
The doc is available online as well: http://www.jointhereboot.com/
The problem I had with this is that hes juicing every fucking thing. He's getting rid of one of the best components in there: fibre.
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
So, I've had the same set of weights for the past twenty years, and they are octagonal, and I hate them. When I do any floor exercises like deads or bar rows they never sit down the way they came off the floor. It's time I buy a set of round Olympic style weights with built in handles, and vinyl bumper coverings, and the larger diameter holes. I get $300 per year from work to buy personal workout equipment, so this year I'm buying weights.
So I've been pricing new weights and much to my surprise they have gotten incredibly expensive. Out of all the places I've looked so far, Dick's Sporting Goods seems to have the best deals per pound on decent weights. Does anyone in here have any other suggestions on where to buy a new set of good weights?
So I've been pricing new weights and much to my surprise they have gotten incredibly expensive. Out of all the places I've looked so far, Dick's Sporting Goods seems to have the best deals per pound on decent weights. Does anyone in here have any other suggestions on where to buy a new set of good weights?
Hari Seldon
Member
I am not sure, probably for convenience since you are drinking the nutrients of a lot more vegetables than you would want to sit down and eat without any dressing or other unhealthy condiments. Like I hate vegetables unless they are covered in dressing, so mixing a bunch of vegetables I wouldn't otherwise ordinarily eat in with an apple into a single drink sounds fairly appealing.
But I was reading somewhere else there is some medical reason for it, but that is for the people that go on the all out fast and not just the supplemental diet thing.
Ever have one of those days where you regret wearing windpants to the gym instead of shorts? Fuck...was hot just now.
Working from home today so I did a noon workout with a few meals under my belt + a pot of coffee. Different feeling...felt a bit weird/weak but at the same time was throwing up new weights on bench/weighted crunches etc.
Different feeling than my morning lifts.
Ended up with over 1000pts on Fitocracy.
Working from home today so I did a noon workout with a few meals under my belt + a pot of coffee. Different feeling...felt a bit weird/weak but at the same time was throwing up new weights on bench/weighted crunches etc.
Different feeling than my morning lifts.
Ended up with over 1000pts on Fitocracy.
Hari Seldon
Member
Yeah watch the video. The huge thing beyond the weight loss was the crazy improvement in blood pressure and over all health. Both guys featured in the video had some sort of skin disease and were on tons of meds, and that cleared up in a matter of months. They didn't fast for that long, but when they got off fasting they kept up the huge intake of vegetable juice as a supplement to other healthy eating habbits. I mean, drinking a bunch of fresh vegetable juice can't hurt right?
I'm at work so I'm catching bits and pieces of the film. I just don't think you have to go to such extremes to achieve that. Juice fasts sound like a fad diet when there are "better" crash diets out there.
Of course vegetable juice wouldn't hurt but as Rando said I rather just eat them. And that's coming from someone who doesn't particularly enjoy eating vegetables. But if you're not going to eat them then yeah I guess drinking it is fine.
Of course vegetable juice wouldn't hurt but as Rando said I rather just eat them. And that's coming from someone who doesn't particularly enjoy eating vegetables. But if you're not going to eat them then yeah I guess drinking it is fine.
Calling anything a 'fast' that involves consuming calories just doesn't sit well with me. A fast where you continue to drink water, black coffee, tea or diet soda (avoiding calories) still fits within the realm of not-kidding-yourself, but consuming copious amounts of juice and calling it a fast fits in the realm of new age quackery.
A Facebook friend did a juice fast, I warned him about the potential pitfalls and said not to expect that weightloss to be permanent, etc. Got met with a lot of "hater" comments. He dropped 18 pounds. I'm pretty sure he put it all back on.
He said he did it to "detox" (is there really such a thing?) and to mentally prepare himself for doing it the old fashioned way. I keep hearing this from people...like they have to work out or diet before really working out or dieting.
RumblingRosco
Member
"Detoxing" is a really shady area of nutritional science. It's true that many people will feel much better when they're on certain detox diets, but that's more because they're cutting out a bunch of the garbage (read: overly processed, loaded with added sugars, nutrient-lacking) foods that they normally eat and replacing it with relatively unprocessed foods, such as water, tea, coffee, veggies, fruit, etc. The same results could be generally achieved by just eating a solid and all-around healthy diet as opposed to the average American diet, no silly "detox diet" needed. The worst is when people do it as a temporary thing and then go back to their usual shit-filled diet.
True. I actually do fast around 16-18 hours a day but I wanted to focus on the juice aspect instead of it's stupid name.
He was using it as a mental platform to then start eating more healthily (more lean meats, fresh green veggies etc). Why not just start eating those things without wasting time on a detox?
I feel like there are more weird theories around fitness and health than anything else out there.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Good god, leg day annihilates me.
My hip issue is really bothering my squats. I think I'm gonna drop the weight way down, way way down and build back up through reps. Also looking for a massage therapist in my area.
I was close to passing out/puking today doing my BBB Deadlift at 225x10 for 5 sets then an extra set at 315x10. I'm fucking tired.
My hip issue is really bothering my squats. I think I'm gonna drop the weight way down, way way down and build back up through reps. Also looking for a massage therapist in my area.
I was close to passing out/puking today doing my BBB Deadlift at 225x10 for 5 sets then an extra set at 315x10. I'm fucking tired.
Try doing your BBB sets with a narrower stance and go ATG. I find ATG squats much more forgiving on my hips than a wider stance powerlifting style.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Yeah, I've been doing that more as I try to nurse my hip. I've also been hitting the hacksquat machine, but not today. I was too smoked after the DL assistance. Thanks bud.
FallingEdge
Member
leg days are always fun.
15 reps @ 260. I don't even understand how or why that happened.
I will try that on my bench day. I decided to do 5x10 @ 135 today for bench as well. I think I will do my best to hit my chest twice a week.
hurts so good.
15 reps @ 260. I don't even understand how or why that happened.
I will try that on my bench day. I decided to do 5x10 @ 135 today for bench as well. I think I will do my best to hit my chest twice a week.
hurts so good.
RumblingRosco
Member
Oh, I'm in 100% agreement with you, I should have made that more clear. It's silly and a waste of time.
Oh I know....just adding to my thoughts. Would like to see people succeed but they feel the need to make up crazy shit. There are no shortcuts.
What hip issue do you have specifically? I ask because I've noticed I have some sort of problem with what might be my hip, or some joint around that area (lower back right side I get unpleasant feeling "popping" or clicks with some moves).
themadhatter444
Neo Member
Came back to the gym after three weeks off (not by choice) and messed up my neck/back/scapula doing some kettlebell work with bad form. It's been two days and it's getting more mobile, but just a friendly reminder to keep your form in check because being injured is the absolute worst. It will now be ~4 weeks or so since I've done a legitimate workout and I can feel my body reacting. My diet is pretty on-par, but not lifting, sprinting, or stretching is killing me.
I can't believe non-exercise folks walk around feeling like this every day.
I can't believe non-exercise folks walk around feeling like this every day.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Nothing like that, just a soreness in the groin area and around the glute on the right back side.
TheDarkStark
Member
Well, I pulled the trigger.
Within the next 6 months I will be a Certified Personal Trainer.
Feels great man. I'm excited as hell.
Within the next 6 months I will be a Certified Personal Trainer.
Feels great man. I'm excited as hell.
Got cramp twice in my leg in quick succession at football training today. First time I've ever got cramp like that doing sports. Then again we did do a 3 mile run prior to the training which then involved another half hour of HIIT (with or without the ball). First time I've done a long run like that since I was in my teens so I'm not surprised I was hit hard.
Overall. I said god damn.
Overall. I said god damn.
FallingEdge
Member
congrats!
good luck1 and congrats!
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Damn..Three Miles then HIIT? Yeah that will cramp some stuff up. Nice job though.
Escape Goat
Member
Is HIIT for 30 minutes 3 days a week and 30 minutes of AMT elliptical 7 days a week a low/moderate/heavy routine?
I don't think I'm going to be ready for my next day of 5/3/1 tomorrow. Being my first week, these doms are terrible. I have literally stumbled and almost fallen over while tending bar tonight, and simply can't take stairs downward at anything but a snails pace. Feels awesome, but methinks this first week will be Sunday, Monday, Wednesday, then Friday instead of Thursday. Hopefully next week I can do it proper.
Syphon Filter
Member
30 min? dam at what speed?
So I know most of you would rather get their protein from food sources, but today I received my tub of trutein Cinnabun protein powder, The taste is freakin unreal..best protein I have EVER had (and I've tried a lot), seriously is stuff is godly, I just finished my shake and already want another
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Bahaha! Welcome to BBB!
yeah man. I give you all the credit in the world. I can barely walk today. Just tell me it gets a bit easier. lol
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
It does get easier, the DOMs become predictable and easier to deal with, but you will have DOMs quite often, mostly when you do lower body BBB (which is best BBB).
Oh I can deal with doms, but this is different. This is my legs caving under me when I try to walk. lol
We'll see how it feels tomorrow. I will go Friday no matter what though!
and shut up deadbeef!
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Just get used to taking a shit being a chore, LOL.
Oh my god, this. It's like a goddamn process sitting down!
What'd you do go for 15 reps on the first week? Haha been there
nah, its definitely the bbb squats after the 5/3/1 deads. holy shit.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Just imagine if you had done BBB squats after 5/3/1 squats.
I did that for like 5 cycles, same with deads.
RumblingRosco
Member
How are you going about this? I've been interested in it but never really understood the process. Do you just pass the exam and that's it?... or, are there required courses?
HIIT for 30 minutes isn't HIIT. If you're able to keep it up for more than 10-15 minutes then you're not pushing yourself close enough to 100%. That's what I've always been told, anyway.
- Status