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Fitness |OT4| Squat Booty, Summer Cuts, and Super Swoletrophy
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I think benchpresses are going to be easier for me from now on.....last time I did BP last week I slightly adjusted the way I bend my elbows, so they're pointing less to my sides as I bring the weight down and more towards my feet. Not actually literally pointing toward my feet, but just a little bit more in that direction, like 5-10 degrees. And it makes all the difference in the world. I don't know if it's the "correct" way to do it or not but I'm definitely doing it from now on, just feels more natural and is easier. I got back into my routine (3x5 Stronglifts) after a couple months off and lost about 40-45lbs on my BP since then, been struggling to catch up the past couple weeks. Usually try to go up 5lbs each time but went up 10lbs today no problem.
Oh yeah and did some grip strength exercises, holding onto the heaviest dumbbells they have (90lbs) for as long as I can. Should I be doing this every time I workout (3 days a week)?
Oh yeah and did some grip strength exercises, holding onto the heaviest dumbbells they have (90lbs) for as long as I can. Should I be doing this every time I workout (3 days a week)?
Is there a significant downside to doing seated OHP?
Ummmmm.... yes? But it depends on your goals.
The standing press is fantastic for developing core strength and for developing functional pushing (as in, when you push you're normally standing with your feet on the ground vs the BP where your laying or the seating OHP where you're seated.)
But, if you don't really care about core strength or if you're trying to do some strict shoulder hypertrophy/strength development, then it's fine. I'd never give them up for anything and only do seated movements when I'm using dumbbells. Best of both worlds, in my opinion.
Any particular brand of pancake mix that you prefer?
Should the egg be raw or hard boiled?
Thanks.
TheDarkStark
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Help me word it better
Those pics are 5 years old, I didn't know much about fitness then. I just went on an extreme caloric deficit and did chest, abs, and cardio. I lost tons of muscle, and although the results were good I was a twig by the time I was done.
Fast forward, a few years I'd stopped lifting, and working in an house, then I broke my hand which killed all my activity and got me pretty depressed and eating like shit.
Well about 2 months ago (at 199 lbs) I started getting fit again, I wish I'd taken a before picture 2 months ago when I weighed 199lbs and had a bf% probably in the 20's, so that I can make a 3 month progress pic, because my results so far are amazing, by the time I'm done I'm gonna be huge and cut, which should be a great motivator to the people out there who have struggled with weight nearly their whole lives like I have.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
I've said this in here before.
When I started out I was told to do everything you can standing, you will benefit in the long run.
I continue to do this, and I'm sure I'm reaping the benefits in everything I do. Just think, OHP standing is going to engage more of your body than sitting. Plus IMO standing OHP (especially heavy) is harder standing, and even moreso when you ensure you do it strict.
Edit: also what veezy said.
FallingEdge
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aight im done with that thread lol
You'll be back!
Anyone heard of "The 4 Hour Body" By Tim Feriss? Can anyone give their opinions on it?
TheDarkStark
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What is the premise of the book?
From the sypopsis, it sounds like a collection of stories. More of a biography of the authors life than a helpful tool.
If that's what you're looking for it sounds like a solid read, if not I think there are definitely better uses of your time. Accordiing the to wiki article you linked the guy admits to taking steroids and HGH, so I don't think he's the best person to take fitness advice from.
TheDarkStark
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Yeah I agree 100% there are tons of CLEAN guys out there who have written books, and I'll bet most of them are much more educated than this guy as well.
Best seller =/= good quality
If you need proof just look at the billboard charts of top songs *vomits profusely*
Ferriss is an interesting guy. I have heard him on a few podcasts. People say his book is also interesting to read. But it's more novelty than actual practical knowledge.
I mean, most everyone did that shit in our early 20's. Experiment on ourselves to test our limits. He just documented it all and made a book out of it.
I mean, most everyone did that shit in our early 20's. Experiment on ourselves to test our limits. He just documented it all and made a book out of it.
The thing is, there's nothing wrong with writing a book on "this is why I do what I do."
But, what you do, has to have some foundation. When your first book is about how to only work 4 hours a week and you're a motivational speaker I'm not too sure you're in touch with us regular ass folks. Same with fitness. You have steroids and you put on lean muscle? Well ho-ly-fucking-shit, you're kidding me?!?!?
TheDarkStark
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Yeah I have nothing against the use of steroids if you're not in competition. Whatever you want to do to your body is none of my business.
My assessment is that this guy is either A) completely full of shit or B) Has no idea how enormously beneficial Steroids and HGH are to altering body composition. The fact that he resorted to using them leads me to believe that he DOES realize how hard it is to gain lean mass without steroids, and he's just bullshitting to try and sell books.
So back to my original point: Time would better spent not reading this stuff unless your reading it for entertainment rather than education.
Craziness. How many reps?
M_A_C
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365 was just 1 rep. Then I did my 15 reps of a rest-pause set @325. Then 225 for 20 straight.
Just got my new order from myprotein.com.
Mint choc whey, as usual, tastes amazing.
Strawberry and cream milk protein smooth tastes like strawberry yoghurt. Very nice.
Berry blast BCAAs taste godawful. I won't be buying this stuff again.
Crunchy peanut butter is nice.. But not amazing. Tesco has an organic peanut for sale which tastes better and isn't much more expensive. I'll be buying that instead in the future.
Mint choc whey, as usual, tastes amazing.
Strawberry and cream milk protein smooth tastes like strawberry yoghurt. Very nice.
Berry blast BCAAs taste godawful. I won't be buying this stuff again.
Crunchy peanut butter is nice.. But not amazing. Tesco has an organic peanut for sale which tastes better and isn't much more expensive. I'll be buying that instead in the future.
Ah was wondering about their peanut butter, I'm looking of swithcing to no-added anything peanut butter. The one I buy currently as a little bit of cane sugar, but I don't really eat any sugar and I only have a teaspoon a day so i doubt its having any effect. Still though an organic would be good.
The isoFLEX? That shit is AMAZING. I always get a Mint Choc. shake at my gym after workouts. Definitely getting myself a 5 pounder when I run out of the protein I'm using now.
If you decide to get some, go to myprotein's price match page (http://www.myprotein.com/uk/pages/Price_Matcher) and put in 'www.bulkpowders.co.uk' in the website URL field. Knocks the price of peanut butter down from £4.79 per kilo to £3.79. On second thoughts, I only have two teaspoons every other day so I think I'll probably stick to this stuff. It does taste good and the price is hard to beat.
There's loads of bargains available if you type in random fitness competitors into the price match. I googled 'whey protein' and copied and pasted in URLs and found some super cheap stuff. 2.5kg of milk protein smooth was only £21 and the BCAAs were about £12 for 250g.
I believe it's because it messes with your endocrine system, most specifically is strongly associated with development of diabetes (which you most definitely do not want). Plus it hasn't been shown to have prolonged benefits - it doesn't have much effect while you're on it, and the little effect it did have goes away shortly after you stop it.
Part of the problem is how HGH is made in your body, it's kind of a low slow release and peaks at different hours. Taking a shot = most gets broken down super fast. Just stick to protein and/or creatine if you want IMO...
I can post a write-up I found on uptodate later, or you can search for a "review" of HGH studies. I remember some studies showed some benefit, others showed no benefit.
PuppetSlave
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Ok, posting this here, just fishing for advice, since I know many here have experiences with sport related injuries.
Two months ago I injured my left wrist bouldering.(climbing at indoor walls) It was my first try climbing and I had a blast. I did warm up before climbing but apparently not enought since a few hours afterwards I noticed I had hurt my left wrist.
The problem I have is that it still hasn't healed all the way. It does feel better then let say 2 weeks ago but I still get pain if I try to lift anything heavier then let say 2-3 pounds with my left hand.
Should I have more patience or do I need to go to a doctor and get this checked out? I haven't done so so far since it feels like there is nothing really the doctor could do.
Getting so frustrated not being able to train...
Two months ago I injured my left wrist bouldering.(climbing at indoor walls) It was my first try climbing and I had a blast. I did warm up before climbing but apparently not enought since a few hours afterwards I noticed I had hurt my left wrist.
The problem I have is that it still hasn't healed all the way. It does feel better then let say 2 weeks ago but I still get pain if I try to lift anything heavier then let say 2-3 pounds with my left hand.
Should I have more patience or do I need to go to a doctor and get this checked out? I haven't done so so far since it feels like there is nothing really the doctor could do.
Getting so frustrated not being able to train...
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Just stocked up.
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Just stocked up.
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Love the new Arnie avatar.
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Veezy said:
I put in my two cents and got sucked into that guy's nonsense in Sean's thread. He never even wanted to engage in debate or argument, he's just yelling at the internet.
Nope!
I read the book a while back (thankfully someone lent it to me so I didn't have to buy it!) and while there were slivers of worthwhile knowledge it read like he slapped together random blog posts into one book and called it a day. Much of it suspect, bombastic and even flat out wrong in it's claims.
He truly took his four-hour workweek philosophy to heart, and it showed, lol.
The Last Wizard
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I reached two plates(225lbs) in my squats yesterday, feels good man.
Age: 33
Height: 5" 10'
Weight: 158lbs
Goal: drop as much body fat as possible, get more muscles, but not so much that it hinders my ability to run.
Current Training Schedule: lift 3 or 4 days a week, run 5 days a week
Current Training Equipment Available: everything a regular gym has
So a few questions.
First, I've started lifting again, after a few years (3 - I didn't have access to a gym until recently) of not doing it at all. Last time I lifted (I lifted regularly for a year and a half) all I would do is get consistently stronger and shed weight (I dropped to 136lbs, but still had stomach fat, wtf), but I would never gain any mass.
Now, that I've got access to a gym again I've been back into lifting. However, it's starting to be the same thing again, I'm shedding weight quickly (except for on my stomach), getting considerably stronger, but I haven't seen any muscle gain (it's been about 2 months of very consistent exercise). I think it's because of diet, but I'm not sure so I was wondering if anyone else has a similar experience (or was familiar with it) and had some tips. In particular, how much Greek yogurt can I get away with in a day (I've had trouble with plain milk in the past, and yogurt doesn't seem to have the same side effects)?
Second, I run (and always have) pretty religiously. How much running can I mix with lifting? Do I treat running like a leg workout? Is it OK to run 5 miles and lift on the same day? Thoughts are helpful. Thanks in advance.
Height: 5" 10'
Weight: 158lbs
Goal: drop as much body fat as possible, get more muscles, but not so much that it hinders my ability to run.
Current Training Schedule: lift 3 or 4 days a week, run 5 days a week
Current Training Equipment Available: everything a regular gym has
So a few questions.
First, I've started lifting again, after a few years (3 - I didn't have access to a gym until recently) of not doing it at all. Last time I lifted (I lifted regularly for a year and a half) all I would do is get consistently stronger and shed weight (I dropped to 136lbs, but still had stomach fat, wtf), but I would never gain any mass.
Now, that I've got access to a gym again I've been back into lifting. However, it's starting to be the same thing again, I'm shedding weight quickly (except for on my stomach), getting considerably stronger, but I haven't seen any muscle gain (it's been about 2 months of very consistent exercise). I think it's because of diet, but I'm not sure so I was wondering if anyone else has a similar experience (or was familiar with it) and had some tips. In particular, how much Greek yogurt can I get away with in a day (I've had trouble with plain milk in the past, and yogurt doesn't seem to have the same side effects)?
Second, I run (and always have) pretty religiously. How much running can I mix with lifting? Do I treat running like a leg workout? Is it OK to run 5 miles and lift on the same day? Thoughts are helpful. Thanks in advance.
Poindexter
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Everyone is different so advice can only go so far with your issues.
Run as much as you'd like as long as it doesn't interfere with your lifts. If you start noticing that you can't squat because your legs are too tired from running then cut back.
As far as your weight issue, it's definitely a diet issue. Do you track everything you eat? Do you know what your BMR is? Those are musts IMO. Start there. You might be eating a lot less than you think.
I run a lot too and you have to be careful with the squats and the running. For me, I would rather be faster than have larger legs (25" right now) so I am only squatting one day a week. After I squat, my runs are shit for 3 days.
Khalifa Jayy
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Is that a good deal? Sounds good, lol, but I've never bought pure creatine.
I'm just a shade over 5'10 and I could never imagine getting down to 136 lbs. That sounds unhealthy to me. Maybe the lesson to learn from that experience is that no matter how much weight you lose, that belly fat is still going to be there. Better to be 160lbs and gaining muscle then struggling at 140 lbs trying to get the perfectly chisled six-pack.
Exactly how I felt after I got done with my cut to 120. At that point I said "fuck it" and decided it was time to get stronger and put on some mass.
Yeah I only do them once a week, and not much weight when I do.
It was way too little weight (that's how much I weighed in high school). I was also really depressed at the time so I'm sure that had something to do with it as well... But just naturally, I have an easy time dropping weight. Yeah, the belly fat isn't going anywhere. It's the extra layer you get once you turn 30, and won't go anywhere without eating perfectly (which is nearly impossible). Now, I'm not really trying to lose that much weight.... it just seems to be happening on its own.
ToxicAdam said:
It's realizing that a lifetime of soft living has produced a soft body. I wasn't always sedentary, but what I did do before the age of 27 would almost entirely be classified as cardiovascular work. I ran track in school, walked a great deal, hiked on occasion, but never trained my strength. It showed, and simply aiming for a target weight and meeting that goal left something to be desired.
The best example of this idea that the scale isn't everything is illustrated in the following picture. Note that the weight at the beginning and the end is the same. The scale wouldn't tell the whole truth, and as my future bestselling book will tell you, you're fatter than you think you are.
http://i.imgur.com/J9RRu.jpg
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Along the same line of thought, I've been posting in these threads for a long time now. I'm going to make some changes.
If I had to set a baseline weight I came in at most frequently, I'd have to say 165lbs. And thankfully my aesthetic has consistently improved and I've been a better 165lbs this year than I was last year and the year before that. I've been lighter and heavier, say between 155lbs and 180lbs in that time, but generally I'd never stick to either of those weights for very long. Currently at 170ish. Wish I could have taken before and after pictures. I may have a decent before, actually, but I can't find it. I'd need three stages, really, from beer belly to skinny-fat to fit.
My plan is to go full on Angry Bear this winter. Just to say I did it. I'm going with 185lbs by spring (March 20th) and more importantly, keeping my 5/3/1 waves moving forward. I want to get through eight full cycles. I won't be ashamed of lowering the jumps between each cycle to 5lbs for lower body or less for upper body if that helps me move forward. You could say that MjFrancis is going to "bulk," to use the parlance of fitness junkies. High rep bodyweight work and Frank Zane fourpack be dammed.
Thanks Petrie, snagged a few.
Haha thanks, I figured it's time to see a more professional side of the Oak
It's dirt cheap for pure creatine.
as long as people continue to not mind the 'spam' I'll keep posting the deals when they show up.
Thanks, I also picked up some creatine. Should have enough for a long time.
Why?
lastflowers
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Yeah. I was 5'10 and around 123-127 for about a year and a half. I could run and play soccer like a monster, but I was weaker than shit. I had to force myself to eat in order to gain any weight.
Now I'm 138ish and I feel fat, though some of it has just been built into my theighs from squatting.
Figured I'd give you guys all an update on myself.
So I quit myfitnesspal and I've been feeling a lot less stressed. I still eyeball portions but I don't track every little thing.
Weigh in is tomorrow but I won't be terribly upset if I'm at the same weight as last week (180)
Good news is this week I pulled 270x5 on deads and 215 3x5 on squats. 225 is right around the corner on those.
I think (and tell me if I'm off here) I was stressing at a level well past what a beginner should stress at. You have to figure I only started compound lifting in January. I should give things at least a year before trying any major bulk or cut. Does that make sense? I mean this is a marathon afterall not a sprint.
In a way I think I jumped into a full cut too quickly. And that's why I didn't get the results I wanted. Theres still plenty of muscle to build slowly while working on form at the point I'm at.
So I quit myfitnesspal and I've been feeling a lot less stressed. I still eyeball portions but I don't track every little thing.
Weigh in is tomorrow but I won't be terribly upset if I'm at the same weight as last week (180)
Good news is this week I pulled 270x5 on deads and 215 3x5 on squats. 225 is right around the corner on those.
I think (and tell me if I'm off here) I was stressing at a level well past what a beginner should stress at. You have to figure I only started compound lifting in January. I should give things at least a year before trying any major bulk or cut. Does that make sense? I mean this is a marathon afterall not a sprint.
In a way I think I jumped into a full cut too quickly. And that's why I didn't get the results I wanted. Theres still plenty of muscle to build slowly while working on form at the point I'm at.
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