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Fitness |OT4| Squat Booty, Summer Cuts, and Super Swoletrophy

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beastmode

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Yeah, there's some pretty thick people in that thread. It's always like that when weight loss comes up outside this thread.
I hope this includes yourself, as you responded to the straw beastmode that had already been addressed multiple times (but is perfectly obvious without explanation.) I count at least five others on the last page alone, one of which has all but admitted to having a grudge against low-carbohydrate diets.
 
Alright, kinda a weird question for you guys. I've been talking with people about getting into bodybuilding for real and I get a lot of recommendations to get a coach/nutritionist. What do you guys think? If I do, what should I be looking for in a trainer?

I've gotten some names and numbers from people, but I don't want to go in blind.
 

MjFrancis

Member
It's hard to tell if you will need a trainer. I think you could do fine without one, but if you have the funds and access to a genuine expert then I'd say go for it, DarthWufei.
 

andycapps

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Please do. I've been intermittently fasting (LeanGains, Cheat Mode, even the Warrior Diet) for two plus years, but long-term fasting hasn't ever been a primary focus for me. As it is many of my friends and relatives construe my lifestyle of fasting for 16-24 hours at a time on a regular basis to be extreme, whereas I would posit that staying in a fed state for every waking hour is far more extreme and rather unprecedented in human history at this level. My middle way is their extreme, and vice versa.

Fasting for longer is certainly not an immediate craving I have, though knowing what it is to be truly hungry could be a valuable experience. Despite my time fasting I've never experienced true hunger; rather, I've experienced cravings brought about by culturally-reinforced hormonal responses.

As a consequence of this misunderstanding we hear about non-diabetics bitching about their insulin dropping after three hours without food.

I'm interested as well. I did some Googling but didn't go too far down the rabbit hole. I don't have an immediate craving for it either, but if it's something that's not harmful for my body, may be something I'd be interested in down the road.
 
What body fat % calculator are you guys using? I'm estimating myself at 15%, but I'd like to measure it myself and see what the result is. I see many online, but is there one that is considered the best or most popular to use?
The best and most accurate way to measure is water displacement, but it's not feasible for like 99.9% of people. The 2nd most accurate way is body fat caliper, 3rd most accurate is a scale that measure bio-electrical impedance. The problem with the scale is that depending on how much water you've got in your system it will fluctuate like 2-3%

You can also measure circumference of your stomach, vs your hips.

Cheapest most practical way is a body fat caliper.
 

blackflag

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Alright, kinda a weird question for you guys. I've been talking with people about getting into bodybuilding for real and I get a lot of recommendations to get a coach/nutritionist. What do you guys think? If I do, what should I be looking for in a trainer?

I've gotten some names and numbers from people, but I don't want to go in blind.

You can probably get all the advice you need as an amateur in the bodybuilding.com contest prep forum. There is a lot of info there.

It also matters if you are gonna be natural or gonna take dat dere bike ride.
 
Alright, kinda a weird question for you guys. I've been talking with people about getting into bodybuilding for real and I get a lot of recommendations to get a coach/nutritionist. What do you guys think? If I do, what should I be looking for in a trainer?

I've gotten some names and numbers from people, but I don't want to go in blind.

I can talk to a few of my friends and see what they say. I really have no idea. I would guess that finding out their background as far as competing and training for BB in addition to what their philosophies are. Would suck if you get a trainer and his beliefs are the opposite of what you want to do/try.
 

Imm0rt4l

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Alright, kinda a weird question for you guys. I've been talking with people about getting into bodybuilding for real and I get a lot of recommendations to get a coach/nutritionist. What do you guys think? If I do, what should I be looking for in a trainer?

I've gotten some names and numbers from people, but I don't want to go in blind.

it depends I suppose if we're talking natty or not for one. But either way I'd say if I could have any sort of coach it would be somebody like Eric Helms or some of the other guys from 3DMJ. Someone with experience in pro bodybuilding and an American Fitness Professionals & Associates Certified Personal Trainer.


I think the coaching that Matt Ogus gets from Eric Helms and other guys at 3DMJ is one of his best blessings. I enjoy listening to Q and A's with him since he is SO knowledgeable, and he actually competes and is really good at posing.
 

blackflag

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Just be aware that body fat caliper is extremely inaccurate if you are performing it on yourself or if the person doing it isn't experienced at it. It is very inaccurate in those situations. Also, if you go this route it should be 7 site test.

There is also DEXA scanning and Bod Pod. Bod Pod is very accurate, almost the same as water displacement. It can cost like 70 dollars though.
 

bro1

Banned
I am loving doing my big lifts only once a week on a 5x5 routine. I did a reset and I am adding 5lbs to my upper body lifts and 10lbs to my lower body lifts. Within a month I will be back to where I was, with better form and hopefully more strength.

Rotator cuff is still bugging me a bit. did a lot of stretching and some specific exercises. I hope it works it's self out.
 

harSon

Banned
I want to look like Bane by Halloween. Is that too much to ask?

I think I'd be able to pull it off since I'm getting pretty damned swole already. Although I'm probably going to still have some stomach fat/loose skin since I weighed 351 pounds 2 years ago, not to mention the fact that I'm a mulatto hahahaha
 

andycapps

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I think I'd be able to pull it off since I'm getting pretty damned swole already. Although I'm probably going to still have some stomach fat/loose skin since I weighed 351 pounds 2 years ago, not to mention the fact that I'm a mulatto hahahaha

What are you at now? The Bane look would be awesome too pull off and I'd assume you could do it naturally, would just take years of working at it.
 

MjFrancis

Member
Lol, just acknowledging the facts Petrie. If you had half a mind to take offense to people who do this I certainly would. It's used as a crutch, an excuse. Like they got diabetes simply through osmosis, standing too close to a diabetic and all of a sudden their blood sugar is an unmanageable crisis. There are people who do this, I've met a few myself, and they have an uncanny ability to justify poor behavior in a most peculiar way.
 
You guys rock, thanks for the help. I'll keep looking around, but definitely hit up your friends FallingEdge.

MjFrancis, yeah I didn't think I'd need one, and could probably do fine without one given the knowledge. I just feel I'd like to at the least get some advisement from someone who has a keen eye for bodybuilding. Then again, it's just a goal to be on stage, not looking to win anything, just an experience.
 

kylej

Banned
Squats are so intense, it's crazy. 3 sets of heavy squats make me feel like I just got out of a fight or fell down a flight of stairs.
 

Mully

Member
I hope this includes yourself, as you responded to the straw beastmode that had already been addressed multiple times (but is perfectly obvious without explanation.) I count at least five others on the last page alone, one of which has all but admitted to having a grudge against low-carbohydrate diets.


I think low-carb diets have their place. I go low carb, low cal when I'm cutting. It's just the way you initially stated that you can eat as much as you can as long as it's low carb and you'll still lose weight is pretty hysterical. It doesn't make much sense. I know you cleared it up afterwards, but the way it was handled was just as funny.


I think I'd be able to pull it off since I'm getting pretty damned swole already. Although I'm probably going to still have some stomach fat/loose skin since I weighed 351 pounds 2 years ago, not to mention the fact that I'm a mulatto hahahaha

Bane was from the Caribbean (in the comics). You should be fine duder.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Holy shit this is hilarious.

http://articles.elitefts.com/features/iron-brothers/sick-of-your-gym-part-4-the-gift/

{ This is a repost of one of the most popular articles we have posted. This was first posted in 2003 }

Jim and I have been doing a lot of seminar traveling lately and nothing we have ever done in the past could have prepared us for the “The Gift.”

We both decided that it was time to try out our new squat suits and it also happened to be a time we were to be out of town for a seminar. We figured that this was going to be no big deal. The place that was hosting the seminar had a Monolift and we were not going to go that heavy. As we flew into the seminar city we discussed our training plan and for some reason the subject turned to personal trainers that we have come across in the past. Jim is now doing some private training and I spent over 10 years in the field and have seen just about everything. I have met many great trainers, but they are far and between. Let’s get real; most trainers pretty much suck.

Just as we were getting into some classic stories from the past, the plane landed and we met the seminar host at the baggage claim. I knew John, the seminar host, from various phone conversations and knew he could lift some big weight. As he approached, Jim and I were both happy. He was bald, had a goatee and weighed around 295. He dipped Copenhagen, spoke aggressively and hated crowded airports. He was one of us.

As we drove to get something to eat, John gave us the news of “The Gift”. He began his story and by the time he was finished, both Jim and I were in tears. Now, these were not tears of pain but tears of laughter. It seems that the weekend of the seminar also happened to be the same day as John’s birthday. John went on to say that although he loved his mother dearly she really did not have a clue about training at all. She knew John liked to lift weights and that he was all jacked up about the seminar. She wanted to give him a great gift so she called the health club where he trained at and bought him a “One hour personal training session with Timmy, A.C.E.” You should have seen the look in Jim’s face as he tried to hold back the laughter. I couldn’t hold my laughter back and busted out and spit my dip all over the place. John said, “Go ahead laugh now but Timmy will be waiting for us all when we get to the gym. The session is today” I couldn’t believe it. We were going to try out our new squat suits and we had to deal with Little Timmy! I looked over at Jim to see if he shared my concern, but there was this look of concentration and thought. Why the hell wasn’t he as pissed as I was? He looked up at me and with an icy glare said, “Dude, this is going to be good.” He put his head down and stared again. I had no idea what he meant but sometimes Jim’s a bit different so I just passed it off as pre-squat nerves.

We checked into the hotel and made our way to the gym. Jim was just not his usual self. He was in deep thought about something but I again I thought he was just getting his mind ready for the session, so I kept to myself. I have only done some bench training with Jim and have never really squatted together. I have heard about the aftermath but never the pre- squat. When we pulled into the gym parking lot, Jim barked out, “This personal- trainer thing will be the greatest thing ever.” John looked at me quizzically and I told him that it must have been the food from the airplane.



As was walked to the front desk, John and I were side by side and suddenly Jim split us like he was reliving his old football days. I’ve never seen him move so fast. Within no time, Jim was at the desk and with a booming voice (though out of breath) said, “We’re here for our personal training session.” By now, I knew that Jim had totally lost it.

John showed the clerk at the front desk “The Gift” and they called Timmy to the desk. It was just as I feared. Timmy was about 5’10″ and MAYBE 165. He was well-groomed and wore a skin-tight polyester shirt. At 18 years of age, Timmy still lacked facial hair but seemed to make up for it with a couple of gold chains that dangled loosely around his neck. With some false bravado, Timmy slapped his hands together and with a large corporate smile asked, “What can I do for you gentlemen?” Jim grabbed his over-stuffed duffel bag and tossed it at his feet. “We’re squattin’ today. Grab our bags and start moving.”

Timmy grabbed the bags and it began to dawn on me why Jim was so anxious for this personal training session. Timmy led us to the corner of the gym and put our bags down. He began walking towards the treadmills, “Let’s start with a good walk for a warm-up.” Jim grabbed some liniment from his bag and threw it at Timmy’s head. “Get your ass over here and rub some Blue Heat on my back.” Jim took off his shirt and pulled his shorts halfway down, letting us all get a good look at his crack. “Don’t forget my low back and SI Joint.” John smiled at me, and I knew what Jim had in mind, although I never realized how far he was going to take this.

“Hey Timmy, we need a box to box squat on.” He looked at Jim with a look of confusion. “What’s a box squat box?” Jim said “Don’t worry about it just go grab 8 one hundred pound plates and sit them right in from of the Monolift so we can squat down and sit on them.” Now I know Jim uses a 14 inch box and couldn’t understand why he needed all those plates. He explained to me, “8 hundred pound plates are a little over 16 inches. You’re going to use 8 plates; I’m going to use 6 plates. We’re going to make Timmy take off and put back on the 100lbs. plate with each set. Now, John has to use a 15 inch box, so Timmy is going to have to a 45lbs plate over the 6 plates.” Jim had this evil glimmer in his eye and a crooked smile that made me laugh and put a little chill down my spine. He had this whole thing planned out and it was revenge against the geek trainers of the world that have NO business training people.

It was time to put our suit on. We went back to the locker room to get them started but then came back on the floor to get our new buddy Timmy to pull the suit up. I heard Jim telling him to reach deep in the back and pull the suit up. If anyone’s ever tried to put on a tight polyester suit, they know that it’s not easy. Timmy was digging and grabbing and his effort was remarkable. After Timmy pulled his hand out of Jim’s ass crack, Jim turned around, laughed and pointed at Timmy yelling, “Blue Heat Stink Palm, Blue Heat Stink Palm!” Although I laughed a bit, Jim was on the ground heaving with laughter. Timmy looked at his hands and gave them each a hesitant whiff. Little Timmy was not very appreciative.

I had my canvas suit on and John had a looser poly suit, so Timmy didn’t have too much work with us. Never the less, he face was red from all the pulling and tugging and his tight shirt was now dripping with sweat. Lucky for him, we were using straight weight, so he didn’t have to set up the bands.

I sat down on the edge of a bench and noticed that my shoes had become untied. Normally, this would’ve been hell. Trying to tie your shoes after you have your suit and briefs on is impossible. But since Timmy was ours for a day, I motioned him over and pointed to my shoes. “Not too tight, but I don’t want double knots.” Timmy bent on one knee and started fumbling with my laces. Now I don’t want sound disgusting, but my canvas suit is about 6 years old and has NEVER been washed. You can only dream about the stink that came from “down there.” Imagine putting a block of Swiss cheese in your underwear and sitting in a sauna for a couple of hours. I watched Timmy’s face as he tied my shoes. His nose was quivering and I caught him dry heaving a couple of times. He tried to pass them off as a coughing fit, but his eyes began watering and judging by his work, he was definitely getting dizzy.

John began doing some dynamic stretching for his shoulders when Jim waddled over to him and said something. John smiled, walked over to a bench and lied down. “Timmy, get over here and give my upper back a rub.” John took off his shirt to reveal a back covered in hair. He looked like a Silverback Gorilla. Add in a couple of monster-sized white-heads and some heavy duty perspiration and Timmy was certainly wishing he had taken the day off. Timmy began digging his fingers, hands and eventually his elbows into John’s traps and lats. You could hear John’s back cracking and scar tissue breaking up. After about 5 minutes, John stood up with a little bit of blood running down his back. Both Jim and I knew that some of zits had been broken and God only knows where the pus went.

Jim grabbed a block of chalk and gave it to Timmy. “Get our backs chalked up so the bar doesn’t slip.” Now, all of us and Timmy knew that chalk was not allowed in this gym. Sure, they had a Monolift, but chalk and the mess it makes are not allowed. Timmy didn’t hesitate though. He had seen enough and didn’t want to put up a fight.

Jim got under the bar first and did a couple of reps with the bar. I jumped in next and told Timmy that I needed another 100lbs. plate. Timmy grunted as he lifted the heavy plate onto the stack. John went next and demanded that the 100 be taken off and the 45lbs plate be put on. This rotation went on for 20 minutes. Take into account the plates being loaded on the bar and the short rest periods and Little Timmy was breathing like one of us now. No amount of time on the recumbent bike, Stair Master or Elliptical trainer could have prepared Timmy for this kind of workout.

After a short break, we all decided to do some speed deadlifts. Of course there was no deadlift jack to help with the plates being put on and pulled off. We started with a couple of sets at 225 and worked up to 455. Timmy was rushing from end to end trying desperately to keep up with our quick pace.

A few sets on the Reverse Hyperextension and some weighted sit-ups finished our workout. I have to admit that I really liked the attention from Timmy and it certainly made our workout smoother. Jim wasn’t finished though. After taking off his briefs, Jim lied down on the floor and ordered Timmy to finish him off. Not sure what he meant by this, I leaned back on the bench and just watched. Jim lifted up one of his legs and asked for a hamstring stretch. I didn’t think anything of this. Jim likes to stretch and it’s a good way to end a hard workout. As my mind started to drift off, I saw that Jim had a huge smile on his face. He began mouthing some words to me and pointing to his shorts. I leaned forward and tried to distinguish what the hell he was talking about. After a few moments of confusion, I finally realized what the joke was. It seemed that Jim wasn’t wearing underwear under his (very) loose shorts and Timmy was certainly getting an eyeful of Jim’s “daddy parts.” Timmy’s head showed that he was trying hard not to look but Jim was mindful to keep a steady flow of conversation. This almost assured that Timmy was getting little glimpses of Jim’s little general.

After packing our bags, Timmy gave us all a business card and thanked us for stopping by the gym. He asked if Jim or I were interested in getting a membership or some more personal training. We both declined and were too tired from training and laughing to say anything. After all the years of watching personal trainers amuse, confuse and infuriate me, I can honestly say that that day made up for everything.

Don't skip this, read it.

Squats are so intense, it's crazy. 3 sets of heavy squats make me feel like I just got out of a fight or fell down a flight of stairs.

I can barely walk today, you should see what I did on Wednesday, shit rocked me.
 

racerx77

Banned
Question.. Might have missed it elsewhere, but for those of you who do squats, do you cut them high, go parallel, or completely rock bottom? Rock bottom for me, no question.
 
Question.. Might have missed it elsewhere, but for those of you who do squats, do you cut them high, go parallel, or completely rock bottom? Rock bottom for me, no question.

I hit parallel. I don't like going too much lower unless I have too. If doing 3x10 at like 225, I will prolly go ATG but other than that, when lifting heavy, I stick to parallel.
 

Veezy

que?
Question.. Might have missed it elsewhere, but for those of you who do squats, do you cut them high, go parallel, or completely rock bottom? Rock bottom for me, no question.

It depends on how my knees are feeling. I always go thigh's parallel, just because that's where you get fully hip chain activation. When my knees are feeling okay I go full depth, but it's not like stopping parallel is bad for you (and going below actually irritates the patella femoral joint). Above parallel, now, that's just silly.
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
Maybe a dumb question but when you mix oatmeal in with a shake, should it be dry? And how much can you use? It just seems like a strange food to add to a shake, like it wouldn't mix well.
 

Imm0rt4l

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Maybe a dumb question but when you mix oatmeal in with a shake, should it be dry? And how much can you use? It just seems like a strange food to add to a shake, like it wouldn't mix well.

I put it in my shake dry. Not sure how much to put in though, really depends on how much you like/meets your macros.
 

Veezy

que?
I agree, but I have seen it more times than I can count.

Indeed. A lot of that has to do with people not understanding the function of the squat and comparing it to a standing leg press.

Logic is as such:

A. I sees da quads most when I flex my legs.
B. I first feel dem quads strain at around 45 degrees.
C. Therefor, squats must be for quads only! I'm now a body builder.

Unfortunately, these same people, generally are way fucking high on the weight when compared to what their hams/hip flexors/glutes can actually handle. Not to mention, although I'm going to, If you look at the knee as a lever, partial squats aren't activating all the forces on the fulcrum. Take a gander what happens when you have a whole lotta strength on one side of a fulcrum and a lot of gaps in your training on the other side?

If you said MCL, ACL, and tendon damage due to improper balance in the joint, you're right!

With that said, partial squats are actually good if you're working on coming out of the pocket on the squats. You can overload the weight, set it on some parallel bars, and basically just work on pushing the weight up. Then, when you switch to regular squats, your quads will be able to help you out of the hole a bit more when they kick in as they'll be stronger. Honestly though, most people will never get strong enough for that to be necessary.
 

beastmode

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I think low-carb diets have their place. I go low carb, low cal when I'm cutting. It's just the way you initially stated that you can eat as much as you can as long as it's low carb and you'll still lose weight is pretty hysterical. It doesn't make much sense. I know you cleared it up afterwards, but the way it was handled was just as funny.
I stated that you'll lose weight on an unrestricted low-carbohydrate diet. Unrestricted means you eat what as much as you want, not as much as you possibly can. Just as a restricted diet doesn't mean that you should eat as little as you can. Even after explaining this multiple times some posters continued to accuse me of either using purposefully obfuscatory language (the study summary I got it from uses actually confusing, technical terms - I thought the meaning of an unrestricted diet was fairly obvious) or ignored said explanations. Someone went a step further after being set straight and posted the most ridiculous statement of that entire thread in response: how can you know that an unrestricted low-carbohydrate diet will work for every single person on the planet? (Of course, it elicited no mention of how insanely stupid a remark it is - because I didn't say it.)

It's possible that you genuinely didn't understand the term, but you must of scrolled through many related posts in order to see the remark itself, right?
 

twofold

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There's a video doing the rounds on a bunch of fitness sites of a guy losing control of the bar while benching 180kg with a suicide grip. The results are.. Unpleasant, to say the least. The guy ended up dying shortly after. It's probably one of the most fucked up things I've seen and I feel physically sick at the moment. Avoid it if you can.

I stated that you'll lose weight on an unrestricted low-carbohydrate diet. Unrestricted means you eat what as much as you want, not as much as you possibly can. Just as a restricted diet doesn't mean that you should eat as little as you can. Even after explaining this multiple times some posters continued to accuse me of either using purposefully obfuscatory language (the study summary I got it from uses actually confusing, technical terms - I thought the meaning of an unrestricted diet was fairly obvious) or ignored said explanations. Someone went a step further after being set straight and posted the most ridiculous statement of that entire thread in response: how can you know that an unrestricted low-carbohydrate diet will work for every single person on the planet? (Of course, it elicited no mention of how insanely stupid a remark it is - because I didn't say it.)

It's possible that you genuinely didn't understand the term, but you must of scrolled through many related posts in order to see the remark itself, right?

Today was my Leangains rest day. I'm supposed to keep my carbs below 50g and make up the rest of the calories in fat/protein. I've already eaten 2400 calories today and I'm sitting here starving with my stomach rumbling. If I ate whatever I wanted, I'd be fat again.. Guaranteed.
 

Man

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I feel like Bent-over-rows have so little movement. I keep my elbows tight in and lift straight back until it hits my abs but out of all of the Beginner Full Body routine exercises this is the 'smallest'.
 

Mully

Member
I stated that you'll lose weight on an unrestricted low-carbohydrate diet. Unrestricted means you eat what as much as you want, not as much as you possibly can. Just as a restricted diet doesn't mean that you should eat as little as you can. Even after explaining this multiple times some posters continued to accuse me of either using purposefully obfuscatory language (the study summary I got it from uses actually confusing, technical terms - I thought the meaning of an unrestricted diet was fairly obvious) or ignored said explanations. Someone went a step further after being set straight and posted the most ridiculous statement of that entire thread in response: how can you know that an unrestricted low-carbohydrate diet will work for every single person on the planet? (Of course, it elicited no mention of how insanely stupid a remark it is - because I didn't say it.)

It's possible that you genuinely didn't understand the term, but you must of scrolled through many related posts in order to see the remark itself, right?

I remember you now. You're the guy that only follows Mark's Daily Apple and will defend it like a Bible Belt Mom. Anything not posted on Mark's Daily Apple is wrong.

I'm not going to bother arguing with you because there's no point, I'll start to bring up facts or try to ask a question and you'll start to flip the fuck out like you did in that thread and probably many others.
 

SeanR1221

Member
There's a video doing the rounds on a bunch of fitness sites of a guy losing control of the bar while benching 180kg with a suicide grip. The results are.. Unpleasant, to say the least. The guy ended up dying shortly after. It's probably one of the most fucked up things I've seen and I feel physically sick at the moment. Avoid it if you can.



Today was my Leangains rest day. I'm supposed to keep my carbs below 50g and make up the rest of the calories in fat/protein. I've already eaten 2400 calories today and I'm sitting here starving with my stomach rumbling. If I ate whatever I wanted, I'd be fat again.. Guaranteed.

Hey didn't you know, it's unrestricted! Eat as much as you want when you want!
 

beastmode

Member
I remember you now. You're the guy that only follows Mark's Daily Apple and will defend it like a Bible Belt Mom. Anything not posted on Mark's Daily Apple is wrong.

I'm not going to bother arguing with you because there's no point, I'll start to bring up facts or try to ask a question and you'll start to flip the fuck out like you did in that thread and probably many others.
I don't know what Mark's Daily Apple is.

I wasn't unreasonable with anyone. I didn't let people put words in my mouth or make false statements in effort to defame me, that's not being unreasonable. If you have a legitimate reason for reading a post of mine referring to an unrestricted diet without seeing the exploitation, voice it. If not, your remark of me being a person who "flips the fuck out" and the original post are clearly just attempts to defame.
Hey didn't you know, it's unrestricted! Eat as much as you want when you want!
According to the (allegedly "hysterical/insane/idiotic") medical research.
 
You guys should all apologize, give each other bro hugs, and move on so we can keep this thread civil. I'll start.

Sorry I stirred up a nest. Both posts I made in this thread about that thread led to other people responding in such a manner that upset beastmode. So in a way, I feel like it's my fault for letting it leak into this thread.

I also apologize if I said anything insulting/defaming/whathaveyou. It's wrong and silly.

NOW GIVE ME A BRO HUG.
 

SeanR1221

Member
I don't know what Mark's Daily Apple is.

I wasn't unreasonable with anyone. I didn't let people put words in my mouth or make false statements in effort to defame me, that's not being unreasonable. If you have a legitimate reason for reading a post of mine referring to an unrestricted diet without seeing the exploitation, voice it. If not, your remark of me being a person who "flips the fuck out" and the original post are clearly just attempts to defame.According to the (allegedly "hysterical/insane/idiotic") medical research.

Jesus Christ, can you stop hiding behind the research. No self respecting researcher would say "eat as much of whatever you want as long as your carbs are low!!!". It was unrestricted in the sense that there was no "set" restriction on calories. Why can't you just say "well yeah you'd gain weight if you ate too much on low carb.". But no, you refuse to admit your wording was off originally. You must be a blast at parties.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Week 1 of 5/3/1 BBB is done... starting Week 2 on Sunday (damn holiday!). This is where I'm gonna start hating myself right?

Nope, it gets worse as you hit the limit of your gains.

When you start bumping BBB up it gets even bettah.

I'm so under your level I'm inside your level.

Mmmmmm.

Delicious.

I can go very low on anything that's like 6+ reps, anything heavier and I can't go below parallel. Could just be the fact that I'm scared because I don't have a spotter.....

Anyways did 235 x 6 today very proud.

I was joking anyway, I don't fuck around with going lower than necessary anymore. I'm gonna be 32 in December, I'll leave that shit to you young bucks.

Also, great work on the progress.

You guys should all apologize, give each other bro hugs, and move on so we can keep this thread civil. I'll start.

Sorry I stirred up a nest. Both posts I made in this thread about that thread led to other people responding in such a manner that upset beastmode. So in a way, I feel like it's my fault for letting it leak into this thread.

I also apologize if I said anything insulting/defaming/whathaveyou. It's wrong and silly.

NOW GIVE ME A BRO HUG.

I've always got a spare bro bug for you hunky.

P.S you should totally go for that BB thing. I fully intend to actually compete in power lifting once I graduate and find a fucking job so I don't have to "focus" on cardio anymore and can simply do it as conditioning and nothing more.
 
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