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Fitness |OT4| Squat Booty, Summer Cuts, and Super Swoletrophy
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Awesome job man!
mmmm ground beef with some six gun chilli mix!
I HAVEN'T HAD MY CHEAT MEAL YET THIS WEEK I WILL TEAR ANYONE WHO STARTS SOMETHING APART GOD DAMN AGHHH
Pizza tomorrow! 
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug75diEyiA0
I HAVEN'T HAD MY CHEAT MEAL YET THIS WEEK I WILL TEAR ANYONE WHO STARTS SOMETHING APART GOD DAMN AGHHH
Pizza tomorrow!
Aww yeah!
I went nuts at Red Lobster today, it wasn't as good as I thought and I feel like I ate a few salt lick blocks.
The beef is in the pudding.
Spiritreaver
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*high five* I had a nice pizza today.I HAVEN'T HAD MY CHEAT MEAL YET THIS WEEK I WILL TEAR ANYONE WHO STARTS SOMETHING APART GOD DAMN AGHHH
Pizza tomorrow!
They apparently screwed up my order though and brought me cinnamon sticks as compensation.
I ate them.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
*high five* I had a nice pizza today.
They apparently screwed up my order though and brought me cinnamon sticks as compensation.
I ate them.
Ain't nothin' wrong with that.
*high five* I had a nice pizza today.
They apparently screwed up my order though and brought me cinnamon sticks as compensation.
I ate them.
You poor soul.
reggieandTFE
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Those guys are disgusting assholes and its this kind of perceived attitude and potential behavior that turns people off of lifting. Raging against a corrupt, inefficient "fitness" industry by picking on skme kid making $9/hr?
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Thanks for this, I needed a laugh.
TheDarkStark
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Thanks, squats have always been my weakness, never worked my legs as a youngster.
Man I had a good ass workout today, was really feeling myself and I feel almost as if I was exuding this aura of Alphaness....like the sheriff is in town, fuck out the way.
I even had this especially fit girl hella checking me out on multiple occasions. I only smiled at her and gave her that look. "baby, I know".
I even had this especially fit girl hella checking me out on multiple occasions. I only smiled at her and gave her that look. "baby, I know".
or it could just be bad BO.
I just finished my post-workout shake. Added it all together and it's almost 2500 calories. Jeez christ. If there's one thing I like about bulking it's being able to eat as much as I fuckin want.
or it could just be bad BO.
I just finished my post-workout shake. Added it all together and it's almost 2500 calories. Jeez christ. If there's one thing I like about bulking it's being able to eat as much as I fuckin want.
I smell like a
I'ma be a smelly motherfucker tomorrow though, leg day, shit ton of volume.
Hang clean & jerks tend to tax my system more, especially when the weight gets heavier. It's also a much more technical lift that involves more nuance and concentration.
I HAVEN'T HAD MY CHEAT MEAL YET THIS WEEK I WILL TEAR ANYONE WHO STARTS SOMETHING APART GOD DAMN AGHHH
Pizza tomorrow!
Pizza is your cheat meal? That sucks that you have to make a special day for pizza. Speaking of eating pizza... time to prep my own.
I used my cheat meal for this week to make that pancake recipe you posted a few pages back along with an omelette.
NO REGRETS.
not much of a cheat, I know.
Nice! Did it turn out well? I'm gonna make that shit tomorrow to break my fast. So delicious.
Yea man, it was delicious, came out great for me. Thanks for posting it.
That is what unrestricted means. That is how the word used in medical research. This is not debatable, it is demonstrable fact. The two definitions you have given mean the same thing. I have never said that you wouldn't gain weight if you purposefully ate more than you want on a low-carbohydrate diet. Find the post in which I said that. It doesn't exist. You are making shit up and surely not coincidentally, have essentially admitted to irrationally defaming low-carbohydrate diets. The personality traits associated with this course of action that come to mind are low intelligence and/or being an asshole.
The party comment is straight ad hominem.
Notice how it's OK to complain if I'm not defending myself. This went on for pages previously, once I made one or two mild posts defending myself the person who started the whining and false accusations was recommending moving the conversation to PMs (which I already had, he still has not done so.) I don't have to apologize because I've done nothing wrong and the people harassing me, some exposed (conclusively) as liars, have refused to do so themselves.
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Right, but you are saying that no one on a low carb diet can gain weight if they only eat as much as they want and no more (as opposed to as much as they can), right?
That is an incorrect belief. That's what we're trying to tell you, from personal experiences. If I eat only what I want on a low carb diet, I still would have trouble eating too many calories. I have to limit myself, and stop before I'm satiated, if I'm trying to cut.
Does a diet recommendation work for every single person on the planet? I've never disagreed with this, but it's irrelevant. That's an absurd remark. If you have a problem with the diet, you are an anomaly. If value your personal experience (and a few others) over medical research + even more people's experiences, you are irrational. You can lose at least as much weight on an unrestricted low-carbohydrate diet as a restricted high-carbohydrate diet. The science (primarily) blames insulin for fat regulation. If you stop eating carbohydrates, you will lose weight. I cannot guarantee that this advice is perfectly foolproof for every single human being alive on planet earth. No one can say that about any treatment for any ailment.
This is also not what everyone is trying to tell me. People have said that I believe that exercise leads to weight gain, a hypothetical excess of calories from carbohydrates leads to weight loss, that the defamatory remarks are imaginary, that I called for the "banning of anyone who dared to disagree" with me, purposefully using obfuscatory language to confuse people, all sorts of ridiculous assertions. I have proven myself innocent against every single one. No one on your side has seriously acknowledged the bullshit being spewn at me. Not one sincere apology for their contribution to this nonsense.
Please provide quotes of my saying anything false or unreasonable (this has never been done,) as everyone has clearly demonstrated massive ignorance of my actual opinions. You can deny that this ignorance was feigned on purpose, but it's extremely unlikely given the courses of action pursued.
I completely agree with this sentiment. I asked for a mod to pay attention to the mess but, of course, the remark was misconstrued in an attempt to defame me. We had reasonable discussion of carbohydrates, exercise, and dieting going on until seemingly half of fitnessGAF lost their marbles and went on a crusade against either low-carbohydrate diets or me personally.
I still find it somewhat appalling that this trash isn't considered intolerable unless I've recently posted.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Dude, at first I genuinely thought you were just someone stating an unpopular opinion who got dogpiled a little - it happens on gaf. But geezus now you're edging on some paranoid conspiracy shit thinking people, in this thread of all places, are on a crusade to "defame" low-carb diets (read the thread from page one and see how many people employ low carb diets.. hint.. a lot) or to "defame" you (no one gives a shit about you). The only reason this nonsense continues is you won't let it go and feel the need to keep stomping your feet here and in other threads about how the evil internet people bullied you on a forum. Get over it, let it go, no one cares.
You have no evidence for anything you've just said in this post. I have addressed almost this exact sentiment already. I also doubt that you've read the posts in the main thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=489028&page=21, 5-10 pages of this nonsense, at least. SeanR1221 pretty much admitted to having a grudge against low-carb diets after it didn't work for him for 2 months in a PM. I've made it conclusively clear that andycapps and Septimus were solely interested in defaming my character over many false posts. That this mess only becomes a problem when I defend myself is evident in these last few pages. Not one single person can defend their accusations against me, when I complain against them I get further name called.
I don't care if you care. I should be able to voice a respectable opinion in a respectful discussion without being relentlessly misrepresented and personally vilified by a relatively large gang of hostile posters. I am in not in the wrong for standing up to people who have not acknowledged their underhanded actions or left me alone.
Quick question on lean gains macros. My BMR is 1890kcals, and I want to go for something along the lines of +30/-10 macros. If I use a 1.5x multiplier on my workout days that gives TDEE of 2835. So then if I add 30% onto that I get 3685kcal. Now here is where I get confused. Do I base the rest days calories on my TDEE from my workout days or my actual TDEE (which will be slightly above my Bmr if I am resting)? If I base it on my W/O TDEE I get around 2500kcals, or using my actual TDEE I get 1650ish... big difference right?
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Oh man, I really hope this is just your online forum persona and not a representation of how you are in the real world. Tell me your real world self chuckled at the above section like I did.
I am so glad I don't subscribe to this stuff.. I honestly have zero idea what you said. =(
You're supposed to use the same multiplier for the entire week - not individual days. If you have a desk job and spend little time active apart from your workouts, use 1.2x.
So, that'd mean you should be eating 2950 calories on your workout days and 2050 on your rest days.
Remember - those TDEE formulas only give you an estimation. Monitor your weight/strength for two weeks and, if you're not getting the results you want, adjust the calories upwards or downwards depending on your goals.
This post is part of the problem. Someone brings up plenty of false accusations, and when those fall through as they always have? That said person makes no mention of lying or being mistaken and resorts to pure ad hominem (proving my point even further.) "Look how silly you are, look how angry you are, I was just trying to calm you down, I didn't mean to make you so incredibly angry, everyone must love being around you in real life, etc." I have had this happen to me multiple times now.
Emotionally, I'm not particularly affected. This would come across in my posts if I didn't feel that using such a rigid choices of words was necessary to prevent further misrepresentation. If you read that sentence as if it were scored by Hans Zimmer, of course it sounds silly. It's also completely true and hard to not understand. That doesn't mean moral and ethical principles become unimportant depending on scale, though.
Does anyone have an idea what's the "problem" with my lower/pelvic area back?
When I grab a pull-up bar or something similar and hang from it to stretch and at the same time try to tilt my pelvis to the front my lower back/pelvic are hurts. It only happens when I try to stretch my back and tilting my pelvis forward causes more pain. I don't feel anything if I'm doing pull ups or just hanging.
I'm guessing stretching like this shouldn't hurt should it? I'm not even sure if you could call that stretching..
When I grab a pull-up bar or something similar and hang from it to stretch and at the same time try to tilt my pelvis to the front my lower back/pelvic are hurts. It only happens when I try to stretch my back and tilting my pelvis forward causes more pain. I don't feel anything if I'm doing pull ups or just hanging.
I'm guessing stretching like this shouldn't hurt should it? I'm not even sure if you could call that stretching..
Haha yeah lean gains reads like a science report, but for me it gives me motivation knowing exactly what is going on in my body!
BMR - base metabolic rate (how many kcals you burn doing Jack shit)
TDEE - total daily energy expenditure (how many kcals you have actually burnt in the day including exercise
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
But I haven't accused you of anything, or even addressed your opinions directly. I'm the guy who went out of my way to ask where you were coming from. I feel for you if the posters in the other thread automatically dismissed you and your opinion. But the only thing I've addressed is your attitude and behavior in multiple threads. No, I don't imagine you pounding your keyboard and cursing while typing your responses. But if your line of thought really is "these people just can't accept that I'm right and they're wrong" then no matter how you phrase it you're going to come off as.. well less than positive. Also, calling a spade a spade doesn't prove your point any further, you don't have a point other than "I won't go without a fight".
I get that sometimes. If you hang off the bar for as long as you can its a form of spinal decompression, and feels good man. Hang of the bar for a while and then try stretch again, makes a difference for me.
Thanks, that makes much more sense.
First off, those accusations that you ignored and you are now denying:
-Dude, at first I genuinely thought you were just someone stating an unpopular opinion who got dogpiled a little - it happens on gaf. [Dogpiling IS happening. Ample evidence (though not exhaustive) is provided below.]
-But geezus now you're edging on some paranoid conspiracy shit thinking people, in this thread of all places, are on a crusade to "defame" low-carb diets (read the thread from page one and see how many people employ low carb diets.. hint.. a lot) [Sean all but admits to having a personal grudge on low-carbohydrate diets. That this whole debacle was started over carbohydrates, calories, and exercise as they relate to weight loss is not a secret. I find it very hard to believe that these people aren't trying to defame low-carbohydrate diets. I explain the science, it is denied. I bring up the medical research, it's existence is questioned. I post the conclusive research studies, they are ignored in favor of individual subjective personal experience. I use the term "calorie unrestricted low-carbohydrate diet" and an 3-4 person hit squad of people dedicated to defamation claim that it includes the possibility that most of the people on the diet will actually eat more than they want most of the time. After explaining what the term actually means they accuse me of using purposefully obfuscatory language and should put a disclaimer for every possible complication that might affect every single person who tries this diet. I point out that I thought I took it from the summary of a study, turns out the language actually used was more complicated but still obvious to anyone not committed to trolling the shit out of the discussion. Some people are still dedicated to pushing this issue, the smallest, most ridiculous case of semantic gotcha I have ever seen. Clinton-level.]
-or to "defame" you (no one gives a shit about you). The only reason this nonsense continues is you won't let it go and feel the need to keep stomping your feet here and in other threads about how the evil internet people bullied you on a forum. Get over it, let it go, no one cares. [I exposed two people in the last few pages of the main thread as having no other logical reason for what they were posting other than to defame me as a person. As for no one giving a shit about me, I have many posts defaming me before my participation, behind my back, quoted below.]
Now that you hopefully acknowledge that there is defamation, I will show you the amount of it and the effect it has (only in this thread though, which isn't even the majority of it.)
Each of the following statements are defamatory. They misrepresent my views, make false accusations, or are simply straight up snide remarks about my character. There was not a single complaint or correction on this by anyone. I hope you understand that the situation is very complex and spans many pages of multiple threads so I don't have the time to address them all individually right this moment. If you do want clarification on any of these examples, though, don't hesitate to ask:
You'd think that I'd be allowed to come in and defend myself, but only does this whole discussion become a problem when I attempt to do so (the first hypothesis that comes to mind is that the defame-beastmode-circle-jerk that preceded my posts did a good deal of damage to my credibility and/or character in this thread even among people who had no knowledge of the preceding discussion - and it's not an opinion from Neptune that my concern with people talking shit about me unchecked is not just morally or ethically valid, there are real repercussions in terms of what people think of me and how I'm treated despite the validity of my claims
I laughed
but in all seriousness, don't fuck up this thread, this is about FITNESS, meaning exercise, weightlifting and cardio, NOT about eating low carb and that shit, keep it out of here.
Someone broke the silence, it wasn't me. No condemnation or correction by anyone despite being false:
Only after I've taken care of someone intent on defaming me (once his argument falls apart he resorts to the oddest false ad hominem in this entire post: being a someone he didn't like in the past who espoused some some nutrition blog as if it were the Bible. Bizarre.) has the "carb vs. low-carb" debate become taboo again:
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Holy shit.. Dude.. I think we have a contender for that meltdown thread.
+1
Now get that shit out of here Beast. Everyone is done with your temper tantrum.
When someone calls me a liar when he misinterprets my position, yeah, I'll accuse them of "yelling at the internet." If that's my most heinous of crimes, I think I can deal with that.MjFrancis said:
I sent him a PM that I started writing before he copy/pasted all that, asking to avoid a derail here as well. It's still not too late for that.
I tried that. In turn someone accused me of "calling for the banning of anyone who dares to disagree with [me]." I debunked it and he refused to acknowledge it in favor of personal insults.
You've admitted to being a full of shit. I would put this in caps or bolded but I'd never hear the end of it: leave me alone.SeanR1221 said:
Proving the point, again. You say I'm full of shit. I give evidence that I'm not. You then completely ignore my first attempt in giving you evidence. Now you're ignoring the massive post I wrote primarily to help inform you and you insult me in another thread in return? I would call you many things right now if they weren't exactly what you want me to call you.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Out of all those quotes you took the time to collect.. point me to where I said you were full of shit. Or where I said anything that amounted to something other than "you're taking this shit too seriously, let it go". I'm not ignoring your "evidence", I'm just not caring much about your lonely adventure to defend your internet pride.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
I concur, can you guys please ignore beast so we can move on? Stop responding to him and he will have to go away.
beastmode, stop.
I realize you are not happy with the response you have received from other posters and there is apparently some disagreement / misunderstanding about the phrasing you were using, but it was not defamatory. And it is not a reason to come into a community thread and import an argument from a completely different thread. If you want to continue discussing it, leave it in the topic where it began or take it to PMs. Don't derail this thread.
I realize you are not happy with the response you have received from other posters and there is apparently some disagreement / misunderstanding about the phrasing you were using, but it was not defamatory. And it is not a reason to come into a community thread and import an argument from a completely different thread. If you want to continue discussing it, leave it in the topic where it began or take it to PMs. Don't derail this thread.
This mob is irrational and out to get me, any way they can. I have given clear examples of such behavior. Those who aren't acting that way themselves are making excuses for the people who are. Despite having absolutely no social support of my own I have kept relatively calm and not resorted to the same gutter tactics. I'm not purposefully posting lies or half-truths. I'm not purposefully trying to get a rise out of people. I'm certainly not ignoring what anyone has to say. This is not pride, it is basic dignity. People were defaming me and I wanted a chance to defend myself. That is not an extreme request. I have still not gotten that chance. I am not to blame for this. It is not unreasonable to challenge assertions made about you then refuse back down to the ensuing insanity this thread and the other have largely spewed back at me.
edit: I will not post in this thread again.
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