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[MjFrancis]

Congrats, and prepare for your world to be rocked. No matter how prepared you are, you're not, lol.

Congrats! My wife and I hope to be in the same boat soon

Congrats MjFrancis! You've got thing well in order, but I still wish you all the best.

Thanks guys, I am really looking forward to meeting the little guy. Still two months to go - I figure I'm ahead of the game by knowing I'm unprepared. Everything's in order, the baby room has been done for months, clothes have been bought, taken classes with the wife, etc, etc - but that's the easy stuff now, isn't it?

All that Bruce Lee reading is paying off I see! Whenever I read his notes/books on him it always inspires me on this balanced life, ying and yang etc. I might need to get a bruce lee poster, just to always inspire me. not in terms of just training, but how he conducted his life, the way he behaved.

If you go down the rabbit hole of philosophy Bruce Lee's outlook is just the tip of the iceberg. At this point I enjoy spreading the myth of the man more than the man himself, even if I do have the utmost respect for him.

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Two funny side notes for today. Frank Yang wants a pic of me in one of his shirts I got (probably not going to do it, that's just how I roll, folks), and I wonder why I promised to sell a half-cord of wood at 9am tomorrow morning that I haven't split yet - and Friday was Deadlift Day. Hooray for me!

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Everything pre-child is easy. It's hard as hell at first, but once you get acclimated, well, it's still hard, haha. I say this after putting a 3 year old boy (nearly 4) to sleep less than 5 minutes ago.

 

[Mully]

Measurements:

Waist: 32"
Thighs: 25"
Arms: 15"
Chest: 41"
Weight: 197lbs

I'd like to cut again soon and get back down to 175lbs. I like to be lean. I've started replacing most shacks with leafy greens and upped my intake of grilled chicken/tuna/salmon/steak and decreased the crap.

I should be down to that weight again pretty quickly. I shouldn't lose much muscle, if any since I'm an endomorph. I'm sure staying with 5/3/1 will definitely help too.

 

[agrajag]

What's going on with this guy's mid section?

 

[Mully]

What's going on with this guy's mid section?

Chest buster evolved into stomach buster.

 

[Mister Negative]

Hi FitGAF. I just finished my first M/W/F cycle of Starting Strength and I feel absolutely amazing. I never thought I would feel good after lifting. Sure walking down stairs is difficult, but it's worth it. I actually feel like I'm making progress and it's awesome.

 

[NomarTyme]

Question about Wendler deloading cycle, do I tone down the reps or sets or both?

I"m talking about the assistance exercise, not my the main core lifts.

 

[kylej]

What's going on with this guy's mid section?

Roid gut.

Question about Wendler deloading cycle, do I tone down the reps or sets or both?

Both. 5/3/1 deload is all about recovery for the next cycle.

 

[rando14]

What's going on with this guy's mid section?

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Widely believed to be an "abuse" of HGH/insulin.

 

[NomarTyme]

Roid gut.



Both. 5/3/1 deload is all about recovery for the next cycle.

Sweet. Time for some recreational fun.

 

[TheExodu5]

What's going on with this guy's mid section?

He looks like a roasted turkey.

 

[Escape Goat]

I hurt my back Tuesday night and today was the first day I've been able to walk upright without seering pain. How long should I wait to do weights once I feel back to normal?

 

[rando14]

I hurt my back Tuesday night and today was the first day I've been able to walk upright without seering pain. How long should I wait to do weights once I feel back to normal?

Your call. Back injuries can be really bad, use your judgement to decide if you need to see a physician or not.

How did you hurt it?

 

[Spiritreaver]

Reposting.

I need to buy the 5/3/1 book, think I'm gonna do it now. But quick question for you guys (feel free to yell at me), do I have to stick with Wendler's suggestion for max increase each cycle? I feel like I started things too light, I'll have a better gauge next week. My biggest problem was utilizing max's based on where I was at currently, not taking into account bouncing back so quickly.

My gut says, suck it up and stick with the plan, or at least wait it out another cycle. Don't want to be overzealous and stupid.

 

[Escape Goat]

Your call. Back injuries can be really bad, use your judgement to decide if you need to see a physician or not.

How did you hurt it?

Its getting better. I will probably have been otu of the gym a week gauging by the rate at which it seems to be healing. I felt some pain lifting the week prior and adjusted workout accordingly. I guess the damage was done because it just seemed to spasm on its own one morning when I was getting ready after a shower.

I guess I'll wait a week and try again. This has been one of the most painful injuries I've experienced. The first two days I couldn't stand erect or walk. My body had absolutely no support

 

[Dany]

So I stopped working my traps because I was getting pain whenever I'd bend. Turns out it is my damn bed has a spring lose. Ugh, a week wasted.

The only issue, which has been constant for awhile is my gut. It is still a gut. I only need to be more consistent with the food I eat, which is hard considering my class schedule and gym times is different each day. At least i've been around 150 lbs for awhile I guess.

Quick question, after my run I do simple stretching for my calfs and hamstring but they still are sore after, any tips I guess?

 

[Mully]

Quick question, after my run I do simple stretching for my calfs and hamstring but they still are sore after, any tips I guess?

There could be a ton of reasons why you're sore the next day:

- you're not warming up or stretching before you run.
- you're not warming up or stretching for at least 15 minutes.
- you're not used to running this much.
- you're not stretching both calf muscles.
- your running form is incorrect.
- you're not wearing proper shoes.
- you're running on your tippy toes or your heels.
- your quadracep is stronger than your hamstring.

I'm guessing your form is off, you're not warming up properly, and you're not used to running this much. Take a break for a day or two and work on your form. Form is key while running. It's really amazing how far a person can run when your running form is fluid.

 

[agrajag]

Cici's pizza? Cause I went yesterday and ate a fuck ton lol.

Yes dude! I love Cici's pizza! The cheapness makes it taste better.

 

[JCX]

I didn't get an answer in the stupid questions thread, so I'll ask here. Do fit people still get ads on websites about losing weight?

 

[I'm an expert]

Do big dicked people still get ads about dick enlargement?

 

[LuchaShaq]

Hey guys just have a bit of an add question.


I worked a bit too hard this summer running multiple miles daily/8-10 hours a day at work mostly on my feet on asphalt/concrete.



My feet are pretty fucked at the moment pain wise and just need to give them some rest/ice etc.

Any ideas for cardio while I heal up? Don't want to be lazy just because my feet are jacked.

 

[Violater]

5'9"
178lbs
34" waist (used to be a 32" all my life wtf happened to me)
24" thigh
14 1/2" biceps (please don't laugh)
39" chest (though im not sure i measured in the right place.

At 34 years old this month, I really need to get myself in better shape.

managed to work my deadlift up to 230lbs yesterday but my grip kept giving out at 3 reps.
my gym is shit so we only have smith machines so I wont bother posting my squats numbers.
I can only benchpress about 130 lbs for a full 3x8.

I don't want to gain a lot of weight to try and loose it like I see you guys are doing, for fear of not being able to loose it after or developing any further health complications.
No I want to get down to a lean 165lbs that's my goal.

 

[sphinx]

5'9"
178lbs
34" waist (used to be a 32" all my life wtf happened to me)
24" thigh
14 1/2" biceps (please don't laugh)
39" chest (though im not sure i measured in the right place.

I am starting to feel better about my 20" thighs, being 5'4" with 138lbs (I am a very small guy )

 

[I'm an expert]

Any ideas for cardio while I heal up? Don't want to be lazy just because my feet are jacked.

Anything low impact. Swimming, biking, eliptical, sex.

5'9"
I don't want to gain a lot of weight to try and loose it like I see you guys are doing, for fear of not being able to loose it after or developing any further health complications.
No I want to get down to a lean 165lbs that's my goal.

Stop eating shit, keep working out, stay consistent for a few months, enjoy.

 

[bro1]

Hey guys just have a bit of an add question.


I worked a bit too hard this summer running multiple miles daily/8-10 hours a day at work mostly on my feet on asphalt/concrete.



My feet are pretty fucked at the moment pain wise and just need to give them some rest/ice etc.

Any ideas for cardio while I heal up? Don't want to be lazy just because my feet are jacked.

I feel your pain. Try taking 4 days off and just watch your calories. I am doing the same and feel much better.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Reposting.

I need to buy the 5/3/1 book, think I'm gonna do it now. But quick question for you guys (feel free to yell at me), do I have to stick with Wendler's suggestion for max increase each cycle? I feel like I started things too light, I'll have a better gauge next week. My biggest problem was utilizing max's based on where I was at currently, not taking into account bouncing back so quickly.

My gut says, suck it up and stick with the plan, or at least wait it out another cycle. Don't want to be overzealous and stupid.

You're supposed to take about 80% of whst you think your 1rm is and do as many reps of that as you can then calculate your 1rm off of that.

Do that then start a new cycle. Also, it will be light at first, don't change it enjoy it while it lasts because things get tough later.

And yeah, get the book.

 

[sphinx]

Anything low impact. Swimming, biking, eliptical, sex.

from all this, biking is the best you can do(or would be my first choice) if you have problems with knees and/or feet

Stop eating shit, keep working out, stay consistent for a few months, enjoy.

how come you assume he is eating shit? I didn't read anything in his text that points to that.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Alright, think I'm gonna try some power cleans today for the first time. I hope I don't bust myself in the face.

 

[AdventureRacing]

from all this, biking is the best you can do(or would be my first choice) if you have problems with knees and/or feet

Just out of interest why not swimming? To me that would be the best choice for anyone struggling with problems with knees and/or feet.

 

[sphinx]

Just out of interest why not swimming? To me that would be the best choice for anyone struggling with problems with knees and/or feet.

because swimming requires excellent breathing technique, otherwise you'll just screw up your heart rate, do little to no impact to your body and frustate yourself all together. (not pulling this out my butt, I went through that at two different points in my life, I also thought swimming would be great, no, it's actually annoying if you want to cover your cardio needs with that)

not to mention that swimming itself requires also a good technique.

biking requires to push the pedals, not much else.

 

[Carbonox]

Needed to buy a new pair of jeans today. Heh, that was a real hoot finding a pair that fit. Needed some smart shorts but couldn't find anything. Tried XL shorts, barely fit. Normal.

Challenge accepted.

 

[Violater]

I am starting to feel better about my 20" thighs, being 5'4" with 138lbs (I am a very small guy )

glad I could be of service, truth be told massive thighs are not on my wishlist.

Stop eating shit, keep working out, stay consistent for a few months, enjoy.

Sometime later you can tell me how shit tastes as I have never had it before.

how come you assume he is eating shit? I didn't read anything in his text that points to that.

Thisisneogafdude

 

[I'm an expert]

Shit is just a pronoun I use for "anything but water and bananas". If you're eating anything but water and bananas, you can't possibly think you'll lose weight. Fact.

But in seriousness, it just means cleaning up your diet is 90% of the battle, especially if you're not particularly overweight in the first place. Losing weight for "skinny" people (as in 178 at 5'9) is much harder than bigger people. Most people here seem to avoid caloric deficit diets so I dunno what other advice there is than even if you're eating fairly healthy all the time, there has to be something that you can cut out that will spur weight loss. Hence, the "shit", even if that shit is just cutting out an extra piece of bread or your morning orange juice. The other option being consume what you want, offset it with more working out.

 

[Petrie]

Shit is just a pronoun I use for "anything but water and bananas". If you're eating anything but water and bananas, you can't possibly think you'll lose weight. Fact.

But in seriousness, it just means cleaning up your diet is 90% of the battle, especially if you're not particularly overweight in the first place. Losing weight for "skinny" people (as in 178 at 5'9) is much harder than bigger people. Most people here seem to avoid caloric deficit diets so I dunno what other advice there is than even if you're eating fairly healthy all the time, there has to be something that you can cut out that will spur weight loss. Hence, the "shit", even if that shit is just cutting out an extra piece of bread or your morning orange juice. The other option being consume what you want, offset it with more working out.

Yep. most people have something they eat thinking it is healthy that isn't really at all. My girlfriend always assumed bread was a health food thanks to that food guide pyramid lying for years. lots of people thing orange and cranberry juice are "healthy", which is pretty far from the truth. cut out the "shit" if you want to lose weight. first step is figuring out what the "shit" is.

 

[I'm an expert]

That's why I already figured it out for you guys and am willing to share. Drink water, eat a banana, watch the pounds fly off.

 

[Cudder]

Alright, think I'm gonna try some power cleans today for the first time. I hope I don't bust myself in the face.

add presses on the end and you're good to go.

 

[NomarTyme]

Reposting.

I need to buy the 5/3/1 book, think I'm gonna do it now. But quick question for you guys (feel free to yell at me), do I have to stick with Wendler's suggestion for max increase each cycle? I feel like I started things too light, I'll have a better gauge next week. My biggest problem was utilizing max's based on where I was at currently, not taking into account bouncing back so quickly.

My gut says, suck it up and stick with the plan, or at least wait it out another cycle. Don't want to be overzealous and stupid.

Read this

 

[SeanR1221]

Shit is just a pronoun I use for "anything but water and bananas". If you're eating anything but water and bananas, you can't possibly think you'll lose weight. Fact.

But in seriousness, it just means cleaning up your diet is 90% of the battle, especially if you're not particularly overweight in the first place. Losing weight for "skinny" people (as in 178 at 5'9) is much harder than bigger people. Most people here seem to avoid caloric deficit diets so I dunno what other advice there is than even if you're eating fairly healthy all the time, there has to be something that you can cut out that will spur weight loss. Hence, the "shit", even if that shit is just cutting out an extra piece of bread or your morning orange juice. The other option being consume what you want, offset it with more working out.

Opposite could be not eating enough like how I was. Too much of a caloric deficit + intense workouts don't mix well.

 

[I'm an expert]

Opposite could be not eating enough like how I was. Too much of a caloric deficit + intense workouts don't mix well.

Your difficulty with weight loss was well documented, but if you remember I did give another opinion - your caloric deficit wasn't enough and you should try more drastic. For someone with your size/weight anything above 1500 is just too much. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you were something like 1700-2000? Again, this isn't a popular method here, but drop down to 1000 calories or less and keep up your workouts and I think you'd see the results you want.

 

[Petrie]

Your difficulty with weight loss was well documented, but if you remember I did give another opinion - your caloric deficit wasn't enough and you should try more drastic. For someone with your size/weight anything above 1500 is just too much. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you were something like 1700-2000? Again, this isn't a popular method here, but drop down to 1000 calories or less and keep up your workouts and I think you'd see the results you want.

Yeah, he should definitely keep doing intense workouts and eat less than 1000 calories a day.

If he just wants to lose weight no matter whether it is muscle, fat or whatever else, and also at the expense of his actually health. Sure.

There is nothing healthy about such a plan to lose weight.


Your idea isn't popular because for a male of his size training and lifting heavy, 1700 calories a day is already a pretty big deficit. It wouldn't be if you were completely sedentary, but that isn't the case here.

 

[SeanR1221]

Your difficulty with weight loss was well documented, but if you remember I did give another opinion - your caloric deficit wasn't enough and you should try more drastic. For someone with your size/weight anything above 1500 is just too much. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you were something like 1700-2000? Again, this isn't a popular method here, but drop down to 1000 calories or less and keep up your workouts and I think you'd see the results you want.

Ohhh yes I do remember your advice now. Yeah I was at 1500-1700 calories a day. Focusing on building strength on a beginner level for 6 more months now then I'll cut weight before my wedding.

 

[twofold]

Your difficulty with weight loss was well documented, but if you remember I did give another opinion - your caloric deficit wasn't enough and you should try more drastic. For someone with your size/weight anything above 1500 is just too much. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you were something like 1700-2000? Again, this isn't a popular method here, but drop down to 1000 calories or less and keep up your workouts and I think you'd see the results you want.

That's fine as long as you don't mind losing muscle and strength. Personally, I've worked hard to get strong and I wouldn't want to lose what muscle I've gained by dieting at a huge deficit.

 

[Petrie]

That's fine as long as you don't mind losing muscle and strength. Personally, I've worked hard to get strong and I wouldn't want to lose what muscle I've gained by dieting at a huge deficit.

Exactly. That much of a deficit along with heavy weight training and such, that's just going to wreck your body.

 

[rando14]

Your difficulty with weight loss was well documented, but if you remember I did give another opinion - your caloric deficit wasn't enough and you should try more drastic. For someone with your size/weight anything above 1500 is just too much. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you were something like 1700-2000? Again, this isn't a popular method here, but drop down to 1000 calories or less and keep up your workouts and I think you'd see the results you want.

Uhhhhhh what kind of advice is this?

 

[I'm an expert]

Yeah, he should definitely keep doing intense workouts and eat less than 1000 calories a day.

If he just wants to lose weight no matter whether it is muscle, fat or whatever else, and also at the expense of his actually health. Sure.

There is nothing healthy about such a plan to lose weight.

Like I said, not popular, but from what I gathered from his goals, he wanted to lose his pouch and tighten up. He's not doing INTENSE workouts, he's on a 5x5 (I think). Honestly, I'd go to a 30 mins cardio with less weight lifting (maybe 3 sets of 6) routine. Remember.. he did his "healthy" cut for 3 months and saw very little progress.

This is just personal experience, but I was never healthier than when I was on an extremely (even negative) low calorie diet and running. Still, I won't even attempt to sell this philosophy here haha.


edit: just to respond to you guys above, he's not a big dude, he's trying to get smaller, I doubt not being able to deadlift 225+ anymore would affect him that much if he had achieved his weight loss goal

 

[Petrie]

Uhhhhhh what kind of advice is this?

The kind we try very hard to keep out of the "fitness" thread.

 

[I'm an expert]

The kind we try very hard to keep out of the "fitness" thread.

Yes, yes, I've angered the textbook gods. Forgive me. I get it, you guys want the all around total package of strength and health and looks and clean. But this guy wanted to lose some weight, went at it for 3 months, failed, and felt frustrated about it. Notice I didn't tell him to starve himself and run 20 miles a day, I told him if he values his weight loss above his other gains, he can achieve that goal first by doing x, y, and z. Then if he wants to rebuild his strength/muscle he's free to do it with whatever e-book he likes.

 

[sphinx]

I am by no means an expert in nutrition but to suggest a diet under 1000 calories to someone doing workout+cardio, (any impact, let alone intense) sounds bad.

but I missed that discussion so maybe I am wrong.

 

[rando14]

Yes, yes, I've angered the textbook gods. Forgive me. I get it, you guys want the all around total package of strength and health and looks and clean. But this guy wanted to lose some weight, went at it for 3 months, failed, and felt frustrated about it. Notice I didn't tell him to starve himself and run 20 miles a day, I told him if he values his weight loss above his other gains, he can achieve that goal first by doing x, y, and z. Then if he wants to rebuild his strength/muscle he's free to do it with whatever e-book he likes.

I don't think there's ever a reason to cut your calories so low for any reason. It promotes an unhealthy lifestyle for an extended period of time, which is the opposite of what we want.

For someone trying to lose fat past plateau, I'd recommend IF or a simplified diet like primal. Dieting up to a certain respectable BF% should be attainable for virtually everyone. Only to get very shredded should require more intense methods.

 

[I'm an expert]

I am by no means an expert in nutrition but to suggest a diet under 1000 calories to someone doing workout+cardio, (any impact, let alone intense) sounds bad.

but I missed that discussion so maybe I am wrong.

I'm not an expert either, but I wrote about my experiences earlier in this thread. As a marathon runner I employed a very strict low cal diet with extremely high cardio (6-8km runs every other day with one long run of 10+ a week) for months of training. I was still able to stay around 69kg and I'm 186-7cm. I was still quite "big" for the type of training I was doing and was as healthy as an ox. But again, I'm not trying to sell this as science or fact. I laid out some personal experiences and gave a bit of subjective advice. I'm 100% positive it wouldn't work for everyone, but there ya go. Let me say this though, dude won't die or even be unhealthy if he went on a 1k cal diet and kept up his work. Low cal doesn't mean unhealthy, there's a reason I was pounding bananas, peanuts, and 0 cal vegetables.