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Fitness |OT4| Squat Booty, Summer Cuts, and Super Swoletrophy

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X-Frame

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Hm... I got MyFitnessPal and it doesn't like that I'm trying to be low carb/high protein haha. It thinks I should be eating 180g of carbs lol

The same thing happened to me until I changed the macro ratios myself. Besides that, the app is great -- especially barcode scanning products in. They have a huge database now too.
 

SeanR1221

Member
If I'm willing to put in the effort into 6:45am workouts, I could technically pull off a eating model similar to leangains.

Exercise 6:45-7:45

Eat right after, have a BIG breakfast. Like...6 eggs, 4 pieces of bacon, 2 scoops of protein. I'd hit around 100g of protein and 800 some calories.

Lunch at around 12. Tuna, mixed with vegetables and another protein like eggs or cheese. 450-500 calories.

Dinner around 6:30-7. Light meal, protein and vegetables. After this, nothing else until the next morning.

I don't know if it's ideal, insane, not worth doing, or actually a good idea.

I mean it sounds good in my head, but Im not sure if its too extreme.
 

entremet

Member
I scared a dude while deadlifting 225 lol, which is not even my best at five reps. The only other person I see deadlifting at my gym is this crazy swole body builder.
 

abuC

Member
Last picture of me in the 250lbs range, 252 to be exact -


r3r3ff.jpg


Wasn't sucking in my stomach or flexing, Im down to 236lbs right now, will take more pics when Im done.

I saw a pic of myself from 2 years ago, looked like Charles Barkley before the weight watchers.
 

Leeness

Member
I actually had 120g of protein today. Aaah it's so difficult haha.

Just gonna do some yoga tonight because I hurt my ankle :(
 

Petrie

Banned
You can custom set your own macros.

I have my at 50p/30c/20f ... just got into the settings tab and customize that stuff.

Their calcs are off if you let it go on its own.

I'm CrankyJay on there btw if anyone is looking for food ideas for macros or whatever, friend me up if you want. Ignore the Sunday night meal of 2300cals, lol.

I cannot find where to change this at all. Help please?
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Cutting back on the Beeferoni?

lol

That's been out, for nearly a year now. I've cut just about everything out now for this month, no cheat meals and limiting carbs/calories.

Last picture of me in the 250lbs range, 252 to be exact -


r3r3ff.jpg


Wasn't sucking in my stomach or flexing, Im down to 236lbs right now, will take more pics when Im done.

I saw a pic of myself from 2 years ago, looked like Charles Barkley before the weight watchers.

The fuck, I thought you were black? Keep up the good work in any regard!
 
Arms keep on shrinking... but it is fat that I'm losing... I think ahhaa.

Last picture of me in the 250lbs range, 252 to be exact -


r3r3ff.jpg


Wasn't sucking in my stomach or flexing, Im down to 236lbs right now, will take more pics when Im done.

I saw a pic of myself from 2 years ago, looked like Charles Barkley before the weight watchers.

looking good dood! you are going to be a beast.
 

abuC

Member
That's been out, for nearly a year now. I've cut just about everything out now for this month, no cheat meals and limiting carbs/calories.



The fuck, I thought you were black? Keep up the good work in any regard!

Hahaha, nobody can ever guess what I am, but I am Black / Cuban, I can grow a mean Afro too ha. Thanks, hard work finally starting to pay off.


Arms keep on shrinking... but it is fat that I'm losing... I think ahhaa.



looking good dood! you are going to be a beast.



Thanks man, I've been going very slow to keep as much muscle as possible while losing weight.
 

TheExodu5

Banned
Welp...went to the gym for the first time today. I'm pairing up with a few friends that have been working out for a year or two now so it shouldn't be too bad.

I only have one concern...I'm concerned that their current routine is going to lead to overtraining. They seem to go 4-5 times a week, and do hourlong workouts. First workout today was 6 different exercises: 3 for shoulders and 3 for triceps. 3 sets of each exercise. Would working out that much and that long be detrimental?
 

cdyhybrid

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Welp...went to the gym for the first time today. I'm pairing up with a few friends that have been working out for a year or two now so it shouldn't be too bad.

I only have one concern...I'm concerned that their current routine is going to lead to overtraining. They seem to go 4-5 times a week, and do hourlong workouts. First workout today was 6 different exercises: 3 for shoulders and 3 for triceps. 3 sets of each exercise. Would working out that much and that long be detrimental?

How heavy are they lifting? It's pretty hard to overtrain from what I understand (it's easy to injure yourself though, two different things).
 

Cudder

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Welp...went to the gym for the first time today. I'm pairing up with a few friends that have been working out for a year or two now so it shouldn't be too bad.

I only have one concern...I'm concerned that their current routine is going to lead to overtraining. They seem to go 4-5 times a week, and do hourlong workouts. First workout today was 6 different exercises: 3 for shoulders and 3 for triceps. 3 sets of each exercise. Would working out that much and that long be detrimental?
Sounds like a pretty good first workout to me. Hell that's like a workout I do on the regular. 2 body parts. 3-4 exercises each.
 
Lots of worries about overtraining here recently.

Everybody is different and has a different work capacity and the only way to find out what overtraining is is to experience it for yourself. Purposely push the limit of your work capacity and see how far you can go until you start feeling tired and fatigued and can no longer perform properly in other workouts.

Sure the workouts that you cannot perform in will not be productive (just take a deload to recover) but the point is to learn from yourself what the feeling of overtraining is so that you can monitor the signs and scale back when needed in the future.

I have experimented with many different routines, many different rep ranges, and different frequency methods, and while my progress has initially been slow because of this, I now know my body extremely well and will progress much faster in the future.
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
Lots of worries about overtraining here recently.

Everybody is different and has a different work capacity and the only way to find out what overtraining is is to experience it for yourself. Purposely push the limit of your work capacity and see how far you can go until you start feeling tired and fatigued and can no longer perform properly in other workouts.

Sure the workouts that you cannot perform in will not be productive (just take a deload to recover) but the point is to learn from yourself what the feeling of overtraining is so that you can monitor the signs and scale back when needed in the future.

I have experimented with many different routines, many different rep ranges, and different frequency methods, and while my progress has initially been slow because of this, I now know my body extremely well and will progress much faster in the future.

As an addendum, it's good to work up towards your capacity and to do so in as safe of a manner as possible. Don't go into a workout and nearly kill yourself to the point where you are left puking afterwards. Nobody likes a puker.
 

Leeness

Member
It's not so bad. :p

Well, I mean, I only eat 1200 calories a day, so I don't eat huge meals or those crazy protein powders, so all I have are chickens and fishes and eggs. And it's a looooot of chicken. I can't eat like four chicken breasts a day! Haha.
 

SeanR1221

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Well, I mean, I only eat 1200 calories a day, so I don't eat huge meals or those crazy protein powders, so all I have are chickens and fishes and eggs. And it's a looooot of chicken. I can't eat like four chicken breasts a day! Haha.

My fiancé takes in around the same (1100 calories, 100g of protein). The tuna we buy from Costco has 32g of protein in the can, so of could get a 1/4 of your day from one can right there! :)

First time going to the gym early without eating. Let's see how this goes.
 

Datwheezy

Unconfirmed Member
Well, I mean, I only eat 1200 calories a day, so I don't eat huge meals or those crazy protein powders, so all I have are chickens and fishes and eggs. And it's a looooot of chicken. I can't eat like four chicken breasts a day! Haha.

My fiancé takes in around the same (1100 calories, 100g of protein). The tuna we buy from Costco has 32g of protein in the can, so of could get a 1/4 of your day from one can right there! :)

First time going to the gym early without eating. Let's see how this goes.

Tuna is a great source of protein but if you plan on having children anytime soon I'd be careful consuming mass quantities of it due to the mercury. I believe at your weight the reccomemended amount is around 1-2 cans a week. And I would stay away from albacore and go with chunk light. My gf generally sticks with sardines. Although they have slightly less protein in them, I think the minimal mercury they have and increased omega 3 fat they contain make it worth it (plus she is into ocean conservation and such, sardines being a much more sustainable source of fish)
 

despire

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Thanks. I'll stick with their routine in that case.

Maybe you should post the routine here in it's entirety. It's good to know if it's shit before committing your time to it.

Also if you are a beginner you might be better of doing the routine in the OP (or Starting Strength, StrongLifts..) than doing some 5 day split routine.
 

TheExodu5

Banned
Also if you are a beginner you might be better of doing the routine in the OP (or Starting Strength, StrongLifts..) than doing some 5 day split routine.

Ideally I would, but I would also rather not alienate myself from the group just yet. I'll see what they're doing this week and report back afterwards.
 

Petrie

Banned
Ideally I would, but I would also rather not alienate myself from the group just yet. I'll see what they're doing this week and report back afterwards.

Working out in a group like that really isn't the best way to do things, as what is best for them definitely won't be what's best for you. Everyone is different.
 

TheExodu5

Banned
On the other hand, working out in a group is a great way to make sure you don't skip out on going to the gym

Yep. I know if I do my own thing I will lose interest after a while. I'm like that with just about everything. Going with a group is going to keep me competitive and motivated.

Man...my right arm hurts like crazy when I bend it. The pain is the part of the tricep right behind the elbow. The pain mostly went away when I took a hot shower, but working at a computer desk, it's getting worse. Maybe I should get some Rub A535 or something.
 

CrankyJay

Banned
How are people handling the holiday tomorrow with gyms being closed?

Should I:

1. Move my Wednesday Chest/Tris workout to Thursday and move Friday's Legs/Shoulders to Saturday?
2. Move Chest/Tris to Thursday but still do Legs/Shoulders on Friday?
3. Skip Chest/Tris altogether this week?

I'm leaning towards option 1...not really looking forward to going to the gym on Saturday morning though. Thoughts?
 

TheExodu5

Banned
Hmmm...maybe I injured myself?

If I extend both my arms, the muscle right behind my right elbow feels swollen and bulgy, whereas I can't really feel anything behind my left elbow.

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crpav

Member
Well, I mean, I only eat 1200 calories a day, so I don't eat huge meals or those crazy protein powders, so all I have are chickens and fishes and eggs. And it's a looooot of chicken. I can't eat like four chicken breasts a day! Haha.

Crazy protein powders? They aren't toxic chemicals or some strange steroids. Protein is protein and as much as whole foods being the best source for your meals and protein intake I don't see why adding a good flavored protein shake in addition to your after workout meal is looked at as bad by some people. It's like dessert without being bad for you. Of course getting a crap quality powder and mixing with water, or any powder mixed with water, makes it crap.
 

Mr.City

Member
If I'm willing to put in the effort into 6:45am workouts, I could technically pull off a eating model similar to leangains.

Exercise 6:45-7:45

Eat right after, have a BIG breakfast. Like...6 eggs, 4 pieces of bacon, 2 scoops of protein. I'd hit around 100g of protein and 800 some calories.

Lunch at around 12. Tuna, mixed with vegetables and another protein like eggs or cheese. 450-500 calories.

Dinner around 6:30-7. Light meal, protein and vegetables. After this, nothing else until the next morning.

I don't know if it's ideal, insane, not worth doing, or actually a good idea.

I mean it sounds good in my head, but Im not sure if its too extreme.

Why are you doing so much to make sure you fit the meal timing of LG. LG is all about creating certain hormonal reactions in the body with fasting and then post workout nutrition.

Ideally I would, but I would also rather not alienate myself from the group just yet. I'll see what they're doing this week and report back afterwards.

I have to question a few things here. First, is it more important to you to be part of a group or to pursue your own fitness goals? Second, if these people don't like you because you're doing something different, are they worth keeping around?

Hmmm...maybe I injured myself?

If I extend both my arms, the muscle right behind my right elbow feels swollen and bulgy, whereas I can't really feel anything behind my left elbow.

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No offense, but it sounds like your workout partners know fuck-all about training. It's mostly likely a Men's Health or Flex routine with lots of machines doing high rep stuff done back to back to "burn in the cuts." They'll mostly likely advocate a diet of chicken, tuna, rice, and veggies, and then wonder how come they can't grow.
 

Eidan

Member
Crazy protein powders? They aren't toxic chemicals or some strange steroids. Protein is protein and as much as whole foods being the best source for your meals and protein intake I don't see why adding a good flavored protein shake in addition to your after workout meal is looked at as bad by some people. It's like dessert without being bad for you. Of course getting a crap quality powder and mixing with water, or any powder mixed with water, makes it crap.

I can understand someone having reservations about a lot of supplements, including protein. There is next to no regulation in the industry, and the amount of carcinogens that get into your average bucket of whey should give anyone pause.
 

TheExodu5

Banned
No offense, but it sounds like your workout partners know fuck-all about training. It's mostly likely a Men's Health or Flex routine with lots of machines doing high rep stuff done back to back to "burn in the cuts." They'll mostly likely advocate a diet of chicken, tuna, rice, and veggies, and then wonder how come they can't grow.

They do about 6-10 reps, and use mostly free weights, body weight, and cables.

I'd say you're right on the diet (my friends are convinced they need to eat lean and avoid fats), but you don't need to convince me. My only diet concern is cutting carbs (though not as extreme as Atkins) as much as possible while intaking a lot more protein, and not being afraid of saturated fats.

My diet is:

Breakfast: protein shake with peanut butter and chia + flax seed. I could do something like eggs and bacon, but I just don't have the time to cook in the morning so this is something easy I can make at work.

Lunch: Chicken Breast + veggies, or Chicken Shawarma (which yes, comes in a small thin pita bread so I'm intaking maybe 20g of carbs)+ Tabouli. Both of these options are available for purchase where I work...I haven't really found any other high protein, low carb alternatives.

Supper: here, I cook for myself. I like cooking, so I'll do a protein (steak, chicken with pan sauce, fish with pan sauce) and veggies such as steam brocolli, asparagus, or roasted veggies (peppers, brussel sprouts, zuchini)...something like that.

My snacks are
sweet: dark chocolate + almonds, berries
savory: cottage cheese + sriracha, beef jerky
 

TheExodu5

Banned
If this is your first time doing serious weight lifting in a while it's probably delayed onset muscle soreness. It's a bitch but it'll go away, and won't come back.

Hah...that sounds about right. I've been pretty inactive for the past 6-8 years, to be honest. It's been probably 4 years or so since I tried working out (probably worked out alone for a few weeks and then gave up). I really pushed myself hard yesterday...pushed myself to failure on every set.

Also, with regards to supplements, should I be taking anything? I've got whey and casein to add to my protein count. I see creatine and fish oil mentioned a lot. I guess I should fill in the template for more tailored advice:

Age: 24
Height: 5'8"
Weight: 170lbs. (very little muscle, so I'm a bit overweight)
Goal: Fat loss, muscle growth
Current Training Schedule: Monday, Wednesday, Friday
Current Training Equipment Available: Workout Gym
 
Welp peeps, tomorrow I head to Vegas for a week and then am taking another week off and just enjoying life. Letting my body recover and whatnot haha. I know that itch will be there but I will just do my best to ignore it and relax. After those two weeks, Imma hit it hard. For now, it is time to appreciate the hard work I have put in. Maybe a few body weight exercises here and there but other than that, sun and fun baby.
 

Mr.City

Member
Welp peeps, tomorrow I head to Vegas for a week and then am taking another week off and just enjoying life. Letting my body recover and whatnot haha. I know that itch will be there but I will just do my best to ignore it and relax. After those two weeks, Imma hit it hard. For now, it is time to appreciate the hard work I have put in. Maybe a few body weight exercises here and there but other than that, sun and fun baby.

Cool. How did RFL work out for you?

Also, with regards to supplements, should I be taking anything? I've got whey and casein to add to my protein count. I see creatine and fish oil mentioned a lot. I guess I should fill in the template for more tailored advice:

There should be a link and a post in the OP about supplements. If your goal is fat loss and muscle growth, people have success with doing the OP routine with a "clean" diet.
 

Leeness

Member
Tuna is a great source of protein but if you plan on having children anytime soon I'd be careful consuming mass quantities of it due to the mercury. I believe at your weight the reccomemended amount is around 1-2 cans a week. And I would stay away from albacore and go with chunk light. My gf generally sticks with sardines. Although they have slightly less protein in them, I think the minimal mercury they have and increased omega 3 fat they contain make it worth it (plus she is into ocean conservation and such, sardines being a much more sustainable source of fish)

I never want kids so...HMMM. Hahaha. I will be careful on any tuna intake in any case. But I will also look into adding some to my diet :)

Crazy protein powders? They aren't toxic chemicals or some strange steroids. Protein is protein and as much as whole foods being the best source for your meals and protein intake I don't see why adding a good flavored protein shake in addition to your after workout meal is looked at as bad by some people. It's like dessert without being bad for you. Of course getting a crap quality powder and mixing with water, or any powder mixed with water, makes it crap.

It's more that most I've seen have just as much carbs in them as protein (and ends up being like more than half my daily intake), and lots of calories. And super expensive hahah. I guess it just doesn't fit into what I'm doing right now, that's all :)
 

CrankyJay

Banned
I cannot find where to change this at all. Help please?

My Home (the tab) > Goals > "Change Goals" button (it's green) > press the Custom radio button then Continue > That takes you to the Customize Your Fitness Goals page where you can enter your calorie and macronutrient targets.
 

crpav

Member
I never want kids so...HMMM. Hahaha. I will be careful on any tuna intake in any case. But I will also look into adding some to my diet :)



It's more that most I've seen have just as much carbs in them as protein (and ends up being like more than half my daily intake), and lots of calories. And super expensive hahah. I guess it just doesn't fit into what I'm doing right now, that's all :)

Ok sounds reasonable. Sorry if I sounded a bit rude.
 

CrankyJay

Banned
That sucks, my gym is open till 1pm so I'd just go early.

I think mine is open until 7am-11 or 1, but the thing is it's sort of tradition to meet up at my inlaws at 8am to watch some 5k that goes thru their neighborhood in Lancaster. I have to be there by 8am because the cops close off all the rounds surrounding their house, and 7am would be cutting it close to finishing my workout, going home to shower, and hoping to make it to their place before the roads close.

I'll just make up the workout later in the week.
 

Eidan

Member
Do you guys have 24-hour gyms in your area? It's the only way to live.

My gym is part of my apartment complex, so it's always open.
 
Welp peeps, tomorrow I head to Vegas for a week and then am taking another week off and just enjoying life. Letting my body recover and whatnot haha. I know that itch will be there but I will just do my best to ignore it and relax. After those two weeks, Imma hit it hard. For now, it is time to appreciate the hard work I have put in. Maybe a few body weight exercises here and there but other than that, sun and fun baby.
Have fun, man!

I did the same thing when I took a trip to New York. Now I'm back and going full blast. I was about 6 lbs heavier when I got back too but after a couple of days of eating good and working out again I didn't gain shit and I set new PR's on every lift except squats.
 

SeanR1221

Member
Why are you doing so much to make sure you fit the meal timing of LG. LG is all about creating certain hormonal reactions in the body with fasting and then post workout nutrition.
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What would you recommend I change for my diet if I'm working out in the morning then?
 

Mr.City

Member
What would you recommend I change for my diet if I'm working out in the morning then?

You can do whatever for LG if you're training in the morning. Besides, you're just timing your fasting window to get certain hormonal benefits. The actual food itself will have the most effect.

FallingEdge: Saw the pictures. Nice work.
 

entremet

Member
Jesus christ my strength is suffering on this "diet" more so now that I'm even more strict. I think I might try a preworkout just for this month and see if it helps. I struggled at 380x3 today for squats, which before would have been cake.



This was asked a few pages back, yeah, it's more than likely a breathing issue.

I'm dieting to and I'm experiencing the same thing. Comes with the terrority on a calorie deficit.

What might help is cycling carbs, or eating more carbs on workout days. I usually eat rice or potatoes on workout days and I'm fine.

Conventional low calorie diets and powerlifting don't go together.
 

blackflag

Member
Finally down to 229 at 22-23%

Impromptu Vegas trip tomorrow. Will be there Wednesday-Sunday. Guess I'll have myself a mini bulk. LOL

Anyone know of a decent gym with squat racks near the strip? I used to live there but it's been over 10 years and I know the Gold's on Flamingo shut down.

I need to hit the gym on Thursday and Friday.
 
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