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Fitness |OT4| Squat Booty, Summer Cuts, and Super Swoletrophy
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Thanks, hoping to do better next time. The amount I was squatting is like a feather for you guys too. It's just kind of discouraging that I'm possibly getting injured from really light weight. Makes lifting heavy a really daunting thought for me.
Once you hit that goal, get a new one!
muntersaur
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You probably put the bar on top of the spinal column right at the base of the neck. Put the bar slightly below that on the fleshy part of the traps. You should use as close a grip as possible because it keeps your back and traps tighter (those that use a wider grip do so because of poorer flexibility).
When you first go on a clean bulk it's expected to gain a little extra weight due to water retention right? Going straight from a (short) cut. I've put on around 1lb in 4 days and am aiming for 0.5 lb per week.
edit: on another weighting 1 hour later the change went down to 0.4 lb. I'll just wait the full week then measure
edit: on another weighting 1 hour later the change went down to 0.4 lb. I'll just wait the full week then measure
So pretty soon (as in two weeks) I'm going to have access to a full gym. I've been altering my diet for about the last 5 months or so and have been seeing some weight loss. The most exercising I have been doing is walking for an hour when I can, so not a whole lot but at least it was something. I also don't weigh myself a whole lot, so as not to be discouraged by "slow" weight loss or on any days where my weight fluctuates a little higher for whatever reason. But the last time I weighed myself, which wasn't that long ago, I calculated that since making dietary changes and altering my lifestyle here and there I have lost 10 lbs, or a little bit over.
But like I said, soon I'm going to have access to a full gym and I want to start using it. I don't want to bulk up, I just want to lose some more weight and lean up if I can. I'm going to start running (even though I hate running
) on the treadmills and then try and figure out a workout that's right for me.
Also, any dietary suggestions to go along with this would be of great help. Kinda shootin' in the dark and doing what I think is best, with some internet research and what not.
Just looking for beginner gym tips for beginning a workout method. I'm at around 210 right now, and want to end up losing about another 25-30 lbs. I'm 6'1", 23 years old (for contextual reference to my weight). Thanks for any tips!
But like I said, soon I'm going to have access to a full gym and I want to start using it. I don't want to bulk up, I just want to lose some more weight and lean up if I can. I'm going to start running (even though I hate running
) on the treadmills and then try and figure out a workout that's right for me. Also, any dietary suggestions to go along with this would be of great help. Kinda shootin' in the dark and doing what I think is best, with some internet research and what not.
Just looking for beginner gym tips for beginning a workout method. I'm at around 210 right now, and want to end up losing about another 25-30 lbs. I'm 6'1", 23 years old (for contextual reference to my weight). Thanks for any tips!
Hmm, have to given the OP a read yet? All the information covered in those posts suit your needs. And you can find and discuss more diet information in the Weight Loss thread.
Yeah, that would have been a good idea, huh? haha
Thanks, I'll give the OP a good read in the morning and then check out what's going on in the weight loss thread.
If you're just starting out, and if you do your workouts properly, your body SHOULD be sore for days after a workout regardless. You're not going to tip-toe around it (unless you half-ass your workouts.)
chrisisawesome
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I guess it's hard to tell when serious online. I'm not being sarcastic, i just tend to use a lot of exclamation marks. Was being serious, and thankful for those suggestions.
Well in that case I'm going to need 2-3 days rest in between starting workouts.
Seems as if my back is 75% now. I did some psoas stretches this morning after waking up and also slept on my back only.
My gait is basically back to normal and there is little to no pain when twisting etc. I still have 3 days until my vacation starts so hopefully it will be near 100 percent by then.
Still salty i have to rest though. I'd rather be killing it at the gym.
My gait is basically back to normal and there is little to no pain when twisting etc. I still have 3 days until my vacation starts so hopefully it will be near 100 percent by then.
Still salty i have to rest though. I'd rather be killing it at the gym.
The DOMS get better and probably non-existent for the most part in a few days/weeks.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Put the bar lower, keep your chestup.
If you have access to barbell/dumbbells you're doing yourself a disservice by focusing on machines. Machines are great for accessory work (some), but the main work should be done with BB/DB. That said, something is better than nothing, don't rush, find your goal then work towards it.
When you're a beginner you're going to be extremely sore no matter what. Don't give up just because you're sore.
You can work through DOMS as long as it's not bad enough to impede ROM. And that doesn't mean don't do it because it's sore through the ROM. Impeding ROM means that the pain becomes far too too much while trying to maintain ROM.
No problem, you're welcome. Also, keep the weight very light at first until you know what you can handle. Also, watch videos on how to squat/deadlift and try to get form checked. Doing these wrong will make your situation worse.
Well, we can help you out here too.
Check out some resistance training programs to keep and possibly increase muscle mass during your weight loss. This means that you'll lose more fat, you'll have a better body to show off when you hit your goal and be better prepared to stay and keep fit indefinitely.
If you hate running, try to find an alternative. The point is to keep exercising forever, so ideally you'd find something fun. Group classes, barbell complexes, calisthenics, biking, sports, rock climbing, home videos, hill sprints, run zombies, rowing, biking, swimming, with or without music. Whatever you find fun!
PantherLotus
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Hell yes! I should hit my cut goal in less than a month, I think. What should be my next?
Off-topic/meta: I notice a LOT of guys talking about back injuries here. What are you guys doing to yourselves?
No, what you need to do is push through the soreness. Being sore, especially for a beginner, does not mean you can't workout.
My gym session today was awesome. In an effort to fix my shitty Bench Press, I searched around and found this video which recommended using a resistance band to help keep the back tight while benching. Net result - 40lbs added to my 5RM, and I'm 100% sure I can do more next time, too. Really bloody happy right now.
Interesting. I have to think about this.
Give it a go as soon as you can, mate. I knew my bench form was bad, but I didn't realise how bad it was until I used the band. The difference was night and day. I didn't even try benching without the band, actually - I wonder if it'll be easier now. I think I'm going to use the band for the next few workouts and then gradually phase it out.
That's interesting - I will definitely give this a shot at the gym next time. Thanks.
Getting involved in that shit is what got me banned a few months back. Fat-gaf wants to rationalize instead of better themselves. Let them.
entremet
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I don't mind helping people, but if you're gonna make excuses about how cooking fucking chicken is hard. Gimme a fucking break. Especially with all the online resources available for cooking--google, youtube, cookbooks.
Even Walmart has fresh food if you avoid the boxed crap in the aisle.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
fucking fuck.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Pretty much, it's a cesspit of excuse making. Makes me sick.
There's that, the "society made me do it" crap, and the "you healthy guys with good genetics don't get us with bad genes" people.
Those types think everyone who works out suddenly has it easy? I'm one of those people who gets fat super fucking easy (which I also think actually helps me pack on muscle too). I work hard as fuck for what I look like/have right now. It's always a cop out with those people; anything to take the blame off their own shoulders.
Your goal can be whatever you want. Find a weakness and improve it, get better at a different area of fitness, hit a new milestone, put your fitness to use in a sport, etc.
if you are doing a low bar squat the bar shouldn't be anywhere near your neck. if the bar is actually what caused the neck pain, then you have the bar in the wrong position. i could see a high bar squat causing neck pain but not low bar.
If you want a cheap alternative, grab some bicycle inner tubes. I heard they work well. Outside of that, I have a few Iron Woody bands which are awesome. I use them for doing band pull aparts in the morning and it has improved my posture tons. It's worth paying for a few of them - they're really useful, imo. Ebay usually has them for reasonable prices.
FallingEdge
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lol I just stay away from health related threads these days. Too much ignorance going on. I understand that there are outside factors impacting your decision and it can be difficult, especially if you have a family but that still isn't an excuse.
Flight for Vegas leaves in 5 hours.
CAN'T WAIT.
Flight for Vegas leaves in 5 hours.
CAN'T WAIT.
High bar.
Attending EVO, I take it?
FallingEdge
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Yeah. Going with the GF and friends. Entering VF and chilling with some older SRK peeps.
Should be fun =)
I won't even enter them anymore. I got banned for saying that people blaming gentics were just being lazy and making excuses. Yes, there is a tiny, fraction of a fraction of people for whom that is true, but most overweight people don't want to turn down shitty food, and are unwilling to take time away from the t.v. to do some work.
Cooking chicken and veggies takes less time than getting McDonald's.
Yea, EVO is good times. Only spectating(live) this year, might get some money matches in.
There's three main reasons why people don't change, in my opinion.
1 - People are happy inside their comfort zones; going to the gym and trying new food pushes them outside of their comfort zone which is difficult.
2 - Society nowadays encourages us to blame our surroundings instead of taking responsibility for our actions. We can only control ourselves - we are the only constant. Too few people remember this and shift the blame elsewhere because it's much easier than admitting that they're the one at fault.
3 - People always seem to want to do things the hard way. Humans are built to run on routine, but people hardly every set their routines up to help them reach their goals.
It's a shame, really. People seem to lack ambition in general.
This seems to carry over to other parts of people's lives, too. I know so many people who are unhappy in their relationships or unhappy with their careers but they're not willing to take the action necessary to fix things. It's quite upsetting, actually.
Get rock-hard pecs that your wife can bounce quarters off!
I've said this many times before in this thread: don't talk about this stuff with normal folk. It goes way over their heads, and they think the shit they see in the movies is what we do in real life. You can offer a few suggestions, but really, just nod, grin, and carry on. Achieving your goals is hard enough without trying to drag along someone else.
Furthermore, when you have someone who thinks that life is a sponge which you squeeze the maximum amount of pleasure from before it dries up, conversations about the long term don't go very well.
Sounds like you're going to have awesome time, man. Be sure to take some pictures.
Who knows? They might enjoy the program and getting stronger. You guys could share the book and all get stronger together. Hell, you might even have a mini-competition behind all of you.
But like I said, soon I'm going to have access to a full gym and I want to start using it. I don't want to bulk up, I just want to lose some more weight and lean up if I can. I'm going to start running (even though I hate running
BULK UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Okay, I would recommend eating a clean-ish diet ( I hate that phrase) and just doing the OP program or Starting strength or Lascek's S/C program. There are links in the OP about diet.
Oh yeah, someone was complaining about pain from the bar during the squat. Here, watch this: http://startingstrength.com/index.php/site/video/platform_the_squat_bar_position
The sad part is they act like we're turning up our noses and things our perfect in our lives, when we all work our asses to better ourselves.
If I want to do that full body start routine in the OP, what kind of equipment do I actually need? Like, I have no ideas about weights, I would probably just order some from Amazon.de (I'm in Germany) or something. Could you guys give me a little help with that?
Also, if someone has a site that actually shows all those things like "squats" and "dead lifts" and how you do them, that would be great!
Also, if someone has a site that actually shows all those things like "squats" and "dead lifts" and how you do them, that would be great!
The best place to learn about squatting and deadlifting would be from the 3rd edition of Starting Strength. There's a link to it on the OP.
Are there any gyms near you? Otherwise, you would have to buy a squat rack, bench, barbell, and plates.
Sure, there's a gym like 5 minutes away.
I'm more comfortable in my own home though, can train without caring about how I look/what i'm wearing and I won't have to pay a monthly fee if I do it at home.
And I of course can do it whenever and don't have to care about opening times/other people occupying the stuff I need.
What I'm saying is I really don't like people.
I'm sick of this gut I have. Starting to make an effort to clean up the food I eat. Not a strict diet, per se, just consciously eating more healthy foods rather than the junk I used to eat. I'm also going to try my hardest to not stuff my face until I can't take another bite. I'll eat until I'm content and then stop.
Is this how most of you guys eat?
Is this how most of you guys eat?
Mammoth Jones
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Question for those fitness inclined: Is briskly walking for 30 minutes a day decent cardio to lose weight?
It's about 2 miles a day. 5 days a week.
It's about 2 miles a day. 5 days a week.
No. But it's a start.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
It's better than nothing, but losing weight is more dependent on what you're putting in your face. And you haven't given us any info on that.
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