Buying your own equipment can be pretty costly though.
Not really. Your diet will determine weight loss.
I track my stuff on Fitday, except if I go out to eat, which is usually a special occasion.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Fitness |OT4| Squat Booty, Summer Cuts, and Super Swoletrophy
- Thread starter Mr.City
- Start date
- Status
Buying your own equipment can be pretty costly though.
Not really. Your diet will determine weight loss.
I track my stuff on Fitday, except if I go out to eat, which is usually a special occasion.
Don't worry about how you look. I have way more respect for a guy squatting 100 pounds with perfect form, than 225 on the smith with terrible form.
HarryHengst
Member
Nobody cares how you look. Go to the gym.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
best advice ever.
After 1 day of rest, working out actually helped my soreness tremendously, and by week 2 it was gone.
I'm in the opposite boat, I wish I got my mom's slightly bulkier genetics, but I'm stuck with my Dad's crazy ass metabolism having me look like a 10 year old lol. Hopefully all this eating and weight lifting gets me some bulk, but I think it's going to be hell to retain--though I'm 100% committed.
Hey that's a good point, thanks. Yeah, I'm trying to make lifestyle changes this year (like I said, started around early 2012) so that I can continue to be healthy and not just diet down to what I want and then let it all just creep back onto me.
I do really enjoy biking, in fact when I move into my new place in a few weeks I'm going to be picking up a bike for myself to use to get to any local places instead of my car. So biking sounds great. I also love hiking, and there's a really nice mountain near where I'll be so that will be great in the Spring and Fall.
All that sounds great! It's all about sustainable choices. If you find some cardio you like, then just try to do it a few times a week; biking around is a great way to go places and get in shape at the same time.
Strict form, use of dumbbells and single arm movements if needed. Also get stronger if you aren't already benching a decent amount.
Focus on the bar rising evenly, shoulders and elbows equally spread out and spaced on the bar.
Yeah I'm going to bench also.
So, I need help with a few questions:
1) What should I eat prior to and after working out?
2) During my warm-up and cooldown, should I do any short brisk walking or light jogging, or just stretches?
I'm mainly concerned with keeping my glycogen stores up for the workout, and making sure I'm taking protein at the right time.
1) What should I eat prior to and after working out?
2) During my warm-up and cooldown, should I do any short brisk walking or light jogging, or just stretches?
I'm mainly concerned with keeping my glycogen stores up for the workout, and making sure I'm taking protein at the right time.
IMO it's not critical to eat any specific thing or at a specific time pre or post workout. I like to eat some protein and a carb (usually chicken and sweet potato) about 1 to 2 hours before gym time, and I drink a protein shake while doing whatever the last exercise of the day is. Plenty of huge guys have told me it's important to get a bunch of protein right after working out but that sounds like broscience to me.
Warm ups can also vary considerably. I like stretching, personally, but a little jog is fine, too.
D
Deleted member 12837
Unconfirmed Member
Two things:
1. Anyone have that article handy that was posted in the previous thread about soy and protein absorption?
2. Does anyone do stadium sprints for cardio, and if so, how do you program them? (frequency, progression, scheduling with or around lifting days, etc)
1. Anyone have that article handy that was posted in the previous thread about soy and protein absorption?
2. Does anyone do stadium sprints for cardio, and if so, how do you program them? (frequency, progression, scheduling with or around lifting days, etc)
Man, depressed today.
I've been using body shot for 2 months. Cool app where you can enter your weight and stuff and compare pictures of yourself. I really don't see a difference these past two months. My fiancé says she does but you can never believe those close to you.
After my vacation next week, no cheat meals at all, purely a clean cut until I'm happy. I'm not going to let this slow me down.
I've been using body shot for 2 months. Cool app where you can enter your weight and stuff and compare pictures of yourself. I really don't see a difference these past two months. My fiancé says she does but you can never believe those close to you.
After my vacation next week, no cheat meals at all, purely a clean cut until I'm happy. I'm not going to let this slow me down.
Cross pic from the weight loss thread... since I've been getting a bit of improvement on my pecs and a bit stronger from the sides of the abdominal zone, it fits better in this thread.
update after 6 weeks, doing 40 minutes cardio, lots of crunches (was already told to do planks instead) and push-ups. No diet, I need to wait 3 weeks to get home and ask my personal nutritionist
is this o.k for 6 weeks or is it barely noticeable? should I be doing better?
update after 6 weeks, doing 40 minutes cardio, lots of crunches (was already told to do planks instead) and push-ups. No diet, I need to wait 3 weeks to get home and ask my personal nutritionist
is this o.k for 6 weeks or is it barely noticeable? should I be doing better?
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
MJ does stadium sprints.
Here is the article.
http://articles.elitefts.com/nutrition/soy-the-protein-killer/
Cross pic from the weight loss thread... since I've been getting a bit of improvement on my pecs and a bit stronger from the sides of the abdominal zone, it fits better in this thread.
update after 6 weeks, doing 40 minutes cardio, lots of crunches (was already told to do planks instead) and push-ups. No diet, I need to wait 3 weeks to get home and ask my personal nutritionist
is this o.k for 6 weeks or is it barely noticeable? should I be doing better?
are you fucking with us?
also: how often do you do the 40 minute cardio sessions, and what do you do exactly?
Thaaaaanks!! :
happyhappyhappyno! I am serious, is 6 weeks maybe 7 :O am I doing better or worse than "o.k" for that amount of time? I'd really like to know!
or you just meant the part of whether is noticeable or not??
EDIT: this is what I do
.- 15 minutes jogging by the river then relax 2 minutes.
.- 4 different push up exercises, 15 reps each set, all from youtube to be honest but they have millions of views and millions of likes and I can feel them being good.
.- 8 minute abdomimal workout, includes 8 different moves, 30 reps each, so 240 total ab moves.
.- Some Extensions and leg stretching (more to do with ice figure skating which is my sport/hobby)
.- 4 different push up exercises (same from above), 15 reps each set, 120 all togethetr.
.- 15 minutes jogging back home
5 or 6 days a week ever since I started
but that's the low impact cardio, the river is longer and you can do 2 twenty minute portions if you want, in which case I do pull-ups on one pole that works for it. 10 reps, twice but I am still getting into that.
and done...
I am glad it is noticeable, I really don't see thaaat much difference, some, yeah, my pecs are a bit more solid and some parts of the adbomen but there is no 6 pack there, so yeah.. haha.
I am still researching a bit about differente ab exercises and there are a ton of different moves! which makes me happy cause some are boring.
Thaaaaanks!! :
no! I am serious, is 6 weeks maybe 7 :O am I doing better or worse than "o.k" for that amount of time? I'd really like to know!
or you just meant the part of whether is noticeable or not??
Yeah that's a huge difference. If I posed my 8 week before and after it would look even shittier now.
D
Deleted member 12837
Unconfirmed Member
Thanks for the article.
I'll wait and see if MJ pops in and sees my post, otherwise I guess I'll PM him.
Cross pic from the weight loss thread... since I've been getting a bit of improvement on my pecs and a bit stronger from the sides of the abdominal zone, it fits better in this thread.
update after 6 weeks, doing 40 minutes cardio, lots of crunches (was already told to do planks instead) and push-ups. No diet, I need to wait 3 weeks to get home and ask my personal nutritionist
is this o.k for 6 weeks or is it barely noticeable? should I be doing better?
Do you have a medical condition?
This is why I try to steer the thread more towards performance-based goals. You could have days where you look like shit, and it wrecks your psyche. The real question here if you have been honest with your diet.
no, not that I know of.
it's just that she 's damn good and trains athletes and I sure she'll give me the right food when I explain to her what's my situation and my goal. I don't want to lose weight anymore, I am done with that and have my desired weight. I now want to grow the muscles.
I read somewhere, and I hope it's true, that it's good to eat after your workout (not right away but a couple of hours thereafter), that way the muscles recover in optimal condition. So I eat a steak with pasta or rice, tastes great and has protein and even if the portion was a bit too much, my cardio routine is damn good so I can offset it easily.
The trick is to not eat it at night, before sleeping.. if I do, I am screwed. lol
You, and quite a few other posters, have been wondering about post workout nutrition.
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle-gain/muscle-growth-and-pos-workout-nutrition.html
Why can't you eat at night though?
I wear basketball shorts, black tights under, hoody and a knitted hat to the gym, nobody cares how you look. And, despite the high population of "Bros" at the gym, I've found people there are generally some of the most willing and helpful people there are.
He can't eat at night because of silly broscience.
Yeah pretty much. I hope someone has the patience to go through this one.
Yep. I don't have the patience to deal with it today.
Yeah I measure and record everything on myfitnesspal. I used to be morbidly obese and I can put on weight quickly so I don't know if that has anything to do with it.
I'll do what I can. This is how it generally(!!) works.
So, you have a stomach. You eat food, right? That food, goes in your stomach.
Your stomach, regardless of what time you eat, digests the food and process it. Sleeping, awake, whatever. Food goes in, blood goes to lining of small intestines, stomach, and bowel, you makes the poops. (Fun sorta fact, as your body goes into "we're asleep we need to fix all this broken shit" mode, you process more calories when you're sleeping than when you're sitting down wide awake).
Okay, so let's talk about metabolism. You're body slows down the process of burning fuel when you're not eating due to not having food in your tummy. Speeds it up when you're eating. So, there's that. So, unless you have a thyroid or another medical condition, all your body knows is "we needs to turn this stuff in fuel and poops." (Not talking about carb/fat burning due to timing, just metabolism).
Knowing that, here's how it works; unless you're doing a fasting diet, which requires strict daily timing (but not a particular time, there's a difference), when you eat isn't a big deal in grand scheme of things. Like, if you work out at 8am and can't get a meal in till after 1300, so long as you have or required surplus (or deficit with the required protein intake) of calories, you'll still gain (or lose) weight. It helps if you eat soon after working out, but not so much so that you should change your schedule around due to a breakfast issue.
Seriously, just eat, work out, and track your numbers. Don't worry about having too much protein in one meal or not enough carbs or whatever. If you want to get fancy pants, check out leangains. But, if you're lazy like me, just eat more calories than you need, at least one gram of protein per lb of body weight, and lift heavy. If you're trying to lose weight, eat like 10-20% less calories than what you need, and do the stuff with the meats and the lifting like you're trying to get big (cut down the fat and carbs).
That about cover it? I may have missed something.
My stadium step programming sucks.
For what it's worth, I sprint 3x/week fasted, 6-8 hours before training, currently improving tempo and rate of fatigue while doing 12 or so sprints (52 steps up) in 10-15ish minutes. If I programmed it or took it as seriously as my weight training I'd be in better shape, but it keeps my cardio up since I've cut most of my running out.
Dr. Feel Good
Banned
Reading Starting Strength right now. Not going to lie the book has a lot of strict guidelines (which it should) and heavily detailed information (which it should). But I'm afraid my brain can't maintain all the information in it and I'll be forgetting things by the time I finish it...
It's a very intense book in some respects, as it presents a ton of information on a few topics.
I strongly recommend getting the matching DVD or spending some time watching the videos online. Combining the text with the video helps make the information click a lot better than just reading it.
been talkin to some people about how to make the basketball team, and they all say i need to be running 3-5 miles a day while dribbling a basketball and i need to be doing sprints on the basketball court 3x a week. also someone said i should deadlift and power clean -_- which is fine but im doing smolov
i don't want to put off the smolov awesomeness yet, but my goal right now is to make the basketball team. i'm gonna try smolov, running and power cleaning at the same time and see if i can handle it. if i can do that , maybe add some high rep deadlifts as well. what do you guys think?
i don't want to put off the smolov awesomeness yet, but my goal right now is to make the basketball team. i'm gonna try smolov, running and power cleaning at the same time and see if i can handle it. if i can do that , maybe add some high rep deadlifts as well. what do you guys think?
Not even with steroids.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Dat beard.
thats kind of what i was thinking. i'm young and stupid though, if i can't get through next week i'll go from there
I forget who said it, but I read a quote once about "if you want to look like you play a sport, go complete in that sport."
I bring it up to you, because it seems like you're trying to serve two masters. Putting on 60+ lbs on your 300lb squat in 13 weeks is an intense experience that runs very counter productive towards running a few miles dribbling a ball, while quickly sprinting at random, and also while randomly juking. In other words, if you want to be part of the basketball team, you're gonna have to train like a basketball player would.
I know switching on a dime from squat training to a more conditioning focus can be a bummer, but if you have goal you should pursue it. Just think, you can always refocus again during the off season, get that heavy squat back, jump back in the agility/endurance training, and dare somebody to foul you. There's something appealing to me about there being a basketball player with a 405+ squat that can dunk.
that's what i've been thinking just haven't said. thanks for the post man.
btw, i can already dunk
chrisisawesome
Member
You should really try going to the gym; the equipment range they have makes all the difference. In my experience you will always end up having a better workout; be it the motivation due to having others workout around you, or even the simple fact that you are "there". Think of people occupying machines as a rest period or a time to look at other exercises people do that you have not yet tried - and then go try it!
Para bailar La Bomba
Banned
I was watching Wimbledon and the comms were saying Andy Murray looks leaner these days "probably because he doesn't have carbs after 6pm." Whats the bet some viewer takes this as fact and decides to try it out, but what impresses me is how the comm conjured such bullshit from thin air. And he was an ex-player too, so it must be true!
as per usual, a portion of fitness gaf behaving like assholes, expected.
I don't take a steak with pasta at night because when I wake up mystomach feels like a rock, I feel exhausted and becuase it takes me 2 or 3 days to feel light again and to me that's a perfectly valid reason.
but thanks to everyone else who gave links or infos regading nutrition. I'll get into that later.
lol @ those comments being "assholes".
HarryHengst
Member
Just like with eating, train whenever you want. It doesnt matter as long as it works for you.
What? He's completely right. Those comments reeked of condescending elitism and were absolutely rude. This is the reason why a lot of people will avoid this thread; to avoid comments like that from jerks.
Para bailar La Bomba
Banned
There's no way you could possibly know how many people avoid this thread.
Personally I avoid it because it takes me at least four hours to "come down" to a level where I can sleep. If it doesn't affect your sleep, by all means.
- Status