5 lbs of muscle? Really?
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5 lbs of muscle? Really?
Bought stuff for my first batch of meat slop today.
1kg lean ground beef
1 medium sized green cabage
1 can tomato paste
2 green peppers
1/2lb sliced mushrooms
1 large onion (maybe 2)
A few cloves of garlic
I was lost on the seasoning so I bought a both taco and chilli seasoning...I'll see how they work out and work on getting better seasoning next time.
I'm not going to follow Silverhydra's directions exactly...I'm going to brown the meat and saute the vegetables, then throw the slop together and simmer it for 2 hours or so.
1kg lean ground beef
1 medium sized green cabage
1 can tomato paste
2 green peppers
1/2lb sliced mushrooms
1 large onion (maybe 2)
A few cloves of garlic
I was lost on the seasoning so I bought a both taco and chilli seasoning...I'll see how they work out and work on getting better seasoning next time.
I'm not going to follow Silverhydra's directions exactly...I'm going to brown the meat and saute the vegetables, then throw the slop together and simmer it for 2 hours or so.
I was surprised too, but I have been drinking 2 gallons of water for the past 5 days and my weight leveled off at 175 in the morning. I was at 180 2 weeks ago. That flu kicked my ass!
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There's no possible way you lost that much muscle. How long were you sick?
That's 5 months of progress.
There's no possible way you lost that much muscle. How long were you sick?
That's 5 months of progress.
Good luck, bud. The first time I made it, it tasted "ok", but I've since refined the recipe to suit my tastes and I love the stuff. Hope it works out well for you.
(Btw, did you get red cabbage or green? I've only ever made it with red - will be interesting to see how it turns out with green cabbage.)
I was sick for about 5 days. Well if it wasnt muscle it was fat. I would imagine I would have rehydrated by now. I read when you get sick your body typically burns muscle over fat.
you lost some weight because you were sick. you didn't lose 5lbs of lean muscle mass. don't worry about it
I'm not sure if I have pulled muscle or a sore muscle. Last Friday I did a 100 squat challenge- 50 front squats at 135 and 50 back squats at 225 in 15 minutes. I was sore for days. I went to squat today and the muscle that connects right below the ass is very sore. Should I lay off or push through?
You drank 2 gallons of water per day...you flushed yourself. Even though you are hydrated, you aren't holding any water
Ok, my second time doing squats. Made adjustments to my form, no neck pain! 
But why are they so hard? grrrr Also, I realized that being quite short (5'7") is a disadvantage for taking the bar off of the rack, so I stacked three foam mats on the floor..
edit: I also had the flu, and was out for about a week and a half. But I found that this forced deload actually helped me. I lost about 7 lbs, but my lifts are stronger than before I took time off. Of course I'm a newb, so I'm probably experiencing n00b gains and all that jazz.
But why are they so hard? grrrr Also, I realized that being quite short (5'7") is a disadvantage for taking the bar off of the rack, so I stacked three foam mats on the floor..edit: I also had the flu, and was out for about a week and a half. But I found that this forced deload actually helped me. I lost about 7 lbs, but my lifts are stronger than before I took time off. Of course I'm a newb, so I'm probably experiencing n00b gains and all that jazz.
Ok, my second time doing squats. Made adjustments to my form, no neck pain!
Don't do that. You want to have as stable position as you can possibly have and I don't think three foam mats wobbling beneath your feet are doing you any favors..
Can't you use lower pins on the rack?
Ugh, my abs are sore as fuck from all the deadlifting and chins yesterday. All in all I've been getting lot more DOMS lately. Not sure if that's a good thing though
you can't adjust the rack? foam pads sounds dangerous and seem like they would make squatting more difficultOk, my second time doing squats. Made adjustments to my form, no neck pain!
edit: I also had the flu, and was out for about a week and a half. But I found that this forced deload actually helped me. I lost about 7 lbs, but my lifts are stronger than before I took time off. Of course I'm a newb, so I'm probably experiencing n00b gains and all that jazz.
It's not an adjustable rack. There's another rack, that has different levels, but it's one of those that's on an incline and I feel weird using it.
I see what you're saying, but those mats are a lot firmer than I made it sound. And the weight I'm pushing now is like a feather to some of you guys, so it doesn't seem very dangerous.
edit: But I'll listen to you guys and won't do that next time. I'll use the weird squat rack.
edit 2: I was just looking at pics of squat racks on google, and it's possible that I'm an idiot and it is adjustable. I'll take a look at it next time.
Yeah that sounds bad, even if you were just doing the barbell. I find the open angled racks best for OHP, so it's best to get acquainted with them regardless. I'm also not sure I've ever seen an enclosed rack that was not adjustable and/or did not have multiple rack positions.
ok if it's this kind:
it's probably not adjustable, but you can simply choose a different level. i hate using these because 1 level is too low, but the next level is too high.
if it's this kind:
it's totally adjustable
Made adjustments to my form, no neck pain!
yeah they suck balls. I have to really psyche myself up every time I walk up to the bar.
shindoku21
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Age: 22
Height: 5'7"
Weight: 155lbs
Goal: Build strength, improve basketball performance
Current Training Schedule: Pickup basketball 2-3 times a week
Current Training Equipment Available: Squat rack + barbell (something like this)
I think I'm going to go back to lifting weights. One reason I wasn't consistent with the SS program was because it advocated that you not do cardio at all and to take your rest days seriously. I found that hard because I like cardio (running, basketball, or biking), especially since I spent a year doing cardio during my weight loss (30lbs lost during 2011). Does doing cardio during a weight training program just slow the process down? My chest and shoulders are slightly bigger after my brief time with SS, but whether I'm stronger is debatable (my gains are probably 10-15lbs on each exercise). Is there a weight training program that takes cardio into account or is more fit for a basketball player?
Also, what are some ways to strengthen my knees? Both my knees, especially my right knee, have felt sore for a few months. I don't know if it was due to lifting weights (bad form?) or basketball or both. I took one week of last month and another week off this month and it hasn't helped. I'm afraid it's some form of knee tendonitis. =/
Height: 5'7"
Weight: 155lbs
Goal: Build strength, improve basketball performance
Current Training Schedule: Pickup basketball 2-3 times a week
Current Training Equipment Available: Squat rack + barbell (something like this)
I think I'm going to go back to lifting weights. One reason I wasn't consistent with the SS program was because it advocated that you not do cardio at all and to take your rest days seriously. I found that hard because I like cardio (running, basketball, or biking), especially since I spent a year doing cardio during my weight loss (30lbs lost during 2011). Does doing cardio during a weight training program just slow the process down? My chest and shoulders are slightly bigger after my brief time with SS, but whether I'm stronger is debatable (my gains are probably 10-15lbs on each exercise). Is there a weight training program that takes cardio into account or is more fit for a basketball player?
Also, what are some ways to strengthen my knees? Both my knees, especially my right knee, have felt sore for a few months. I don't know if it was due to lifting weights (bad form?) or basketball or both. I took one week of last month and another week off this month and it hasn't helped. I'm afraid it's some form of knee tendonitis. =/
i did SS and played full court basketball tues, wed, and thurs, and shot around by myself mon, fri, and sat. plus swimming twice a week. i gained lots of strength.
as for your knees , please be careful. ice them if they are swollen, and take some time off. maybe get a sleeve to keep them warm.
shindoku21
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OK, that's reassuring. I'm just confused with how cardio affects weight training. I've read in SS that little cardio should be done because your muscles need to rest. My brother who's done SS and has gained lots of mass and strength, did no cardio whatsoever. I'm guessing it's all about consistency/rest/diet?
Yeah I'm not sure what's wrong with my knees. My left knee has gotten better but my right still bothers me. At times when I play basketball I find it hard to lift myself to jump or move laterally. I'll probably schedule to see a doctor soon.
Poindexter
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Don't overthink it. Do as much cardio as you can handle before you feel like it starts to effect your lifts. It varies for everyone.
L0st Id3ntity
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Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
So I don't think my cut/conditioning is the only culprit for my loss in strength in squats. I came to a realization today as I was doing the second day of my 2x a week lifting routine.
My posterior chain is weak. Oh, and my back is already healed up from last week.
When I went to the conditioning template I cut out BBB deadlifts and squats. As a result, my strength subsided and I merely chalked it up to "conditioning" weakening my lift.
So now I'm back doing a form of BBB for squats/deads but alternating based on the main lift.
Here is what I did today. Also, I knocked back both my DL and Squats back two cycles to work back up.
I'll have to evaluate this 2x a week lift 7x a week cardio thing, but at the moment (way too early) I like it.
My posterior chain is weak. Oh, and my back is already healed up from last week.
When I went to the conditioning template I cut out BBB deadlifts and squats. As a result, my strength subsided and I merely chalked it up to "conditioning" weakening my lift.
So now I'm back doing a form of BBB for squats/deads but alternating based on the main lift.
Here is what I did today. Also, I knocked back both my DL and Squats back two cycles to work back up.
I'll have to evaluate this 2x a week lift 7x a week cardio thing, but at the moment (way too early) I like it.
that is probably what i'll do , depending on if i make the team or not. shame too, because i already wanted to not go yesterday lol
Glad to hear it! (de)hydration is another thing that will sap your workout.
Splash Wave
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I desperately need some advice for mitigating soreness. My girlfriend and I currently live in separate cities, so I took the week off from the gym while she was staying with me. Now, I was able to go back without much of a problem, but now my legs and ass are absurdly sore and I'm scheduled to workout again tomorrow. What should I do?
I'm doing SS, by the way (tomorrow is a B day--I'm only worried about squats).
I'm doing SS, by the way (tomorrow is a B day--I'm only worried about squats).
Keep working out?
entremet
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Anyone else suck at deadlifts? I'm 275 x 5 and struggling, but I'm at 305 x 5 on my back squat.
Work through it. I like riding the bike as a warm helps some.
Work through it. I like riding the bike as a warm helps some.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Nope, best thing for deadlifts is more deadlifts.
Splash Wave
Member
Of course--I'm wondering if there are any stretches/exercises I can do to make tomorrow less painful.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Extended warmup.
275x5 and 305x5? You don't suck man, far from it
entremet
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In terms of disparity. Usually most people pull more than they squat. I'm wondering why I can't
Yeah, I do. I pull ~400 and squat around 330. I wonder how much differences in leg/arm length can affect disparity.
I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but are those squats full proper squats (aka at least parallel)? That disparity is quite significant, and squats will only help your deadlifts.
If for any reason they aren't ass to grass squats, try lowering the weight and doing a2g, then work your weight back up. Guarantee your dl's will go up too.
A final tip is try to find your weak points. For me, my weakest points were my hamstrings. To work on them I did more squats and more hamstring exercises.
This is what not to do. Don't cut and do a million pick up games of basketball (everyone and their fucking pick up games. They do more harm than good) and then do an intensive Russian squatting cycle. You're going to goober your way into a 405 squat.
yeah don't do that, kids. it hurts. btw i'm not cutting, but that would have made it even worse lol. what i need right now is an ice bath
Darren870
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So what supplements do most people here take? Always kinda curious...
I am on:
Whey Protein (Optimum Nutrition) - 3-4 Scoops a day
Fat Burners - All Natural (Kinetica)
Multivitamin
Not on but use:
Creatine
Anyone use BCAA, Glutamine, Casein? What are the benefits?
I should probably get on fish oil as well...it just really makes me gag. In the pill form its like swallowing a horse pill.
I am on:
Whey Protein (Optimum Nutrition) - 3-4 Scoops a day
Fat Burners - All Natural (Kinetica)
Multivitamin
Not on but use:
Creatine
Anyone use BCAA, Glutamine, Casein? What are the benefits?
I should probably get on fish oil as well...it just really makes me gag. In the pill form its like swallowing a horse pill.
Mecha_Infantry
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ON Whey 100% Gold Standard, about 6 scoops a day
EcGC about 4/5 pills a day
That's all!
Mecha_Infantry
Banned
Tricep work will be more important than bicep work. Concentrate on dips, close grip benches, seated French curls/skullcrushers and cable pushdowns
I have a couple of bulging disks and I swear by hill walking on the treadmill. Make sure it's high enough (I normally put it as high as possible) and put it in like 2-3MPH..you'll be good after 20 or so.
Other than that I use the rower or the stair climber. But Stairclimber is my go to machine if I need to get a heavy cardio session popping
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
This cut is going awesome. I'm down to 227 as of this morning with about 4 weeks left to be on it. It's going to be real interesting to see how far down I get.
I've really, really, begun to like the stationary bike. Crank up the resistance and go to town.
I've really, really, begun to like the stationary bike. Crank up the resistance and go to town.
entremet
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I believe so, but I need a form check.
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle-gain/muscle-growth-and-pos-workout-nutrition.html
I really like eating LG style. Granted I'm only eating at maintenance right now because I'm post RFL, but I see good things happening when I do the 20% surplus/deficit next week.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Fat is fine as long as you're under maintenance. At least that's my understanding If you go over your fat macro and are under maintenance it will be burned, if you go over maintenance and you're gonna store it.
I might be "off" on that, this cutting thing is new to me.
The routine I'm doing now is heavy volume. How long have you been lifting?
HisshouBuraiKen
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Tested my 1RM for squats last night - managed to do 295 (parallel of course) and probably could've done 300 if I'd rested a little more and not forgotten my damn ipod. But I'll take it!
Also I've been on keto for about a month now and I'm down from ~180 to ~172. Replacing late night cereal with kale chips has been the best thing ever.
Also I've been on keto for about a month now and I'm down from ~180 to ~172. Replacing late night cereal with kale chips has been the best thing ever.
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