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[PantherLotus]

man my muscles are so hungry
i wish i could feed them for at least 8 hours

 

[Petrie]

man my muscles are so hungry
i wish i could feed them for at least 8 hours

Well do we have the product for you!

 

[Anbokr]

Can't go past 162 pounds, wtf body. I'm probably overeating 5 times a day with min. 150g of protein and 300g carbs (I've had quite a few 3000+ calorie days).

 

[Darkman M]

Can't go past 162 pounds, wtf body. I'm probably overeating 5 times a day with min. 150g of protein and 300g carbs (I've had quite a few 3000+ calorie days).

3000 calories doesn't seem like much, i can eat that easily without even trying lol.

 

[AdventureRacing]

Damn the flu sucks, i really want to go to the gym but looks like i'll be having a few more days off.

 

[Petrie]

Can't go past 162 pounds, wtf body. I'm probably overeating 5 times a day with min. 150g of protein and 300g carbs (I've had quite a few 3000+ calorie days).

3000 could easily enough be your maintenance level. Eat more.

 

[PantherLotus]

on a positive note, just yesterday I was complaining about not being able to cross past 172 downward. This morning, 170.2!

Goal is 162-165. After that, my goal is 50 pull-ups.

 

[biosnake20]

Instead of getting iForce mint I think i'm just gonna buy any solid vanilla protein and add some peppermint extract to it. Should taste basically the same and can probably save a good chunk of change.

 

[TheExodu5]

I've decided to set a goal for myself, as suggested: to be able to bench 100lbs dumbbells. I started off at 40lbs 3 weeks ago and am currently at 50lbs. Doable in a year?

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

I would be careuk setting a max weight goal with dumbbells. Good way to get injured IMO. But 100lbs from 50 In a year is definitely doable.

 

[ToxicAdam]

I've decided to set a goal for myself, as suggested: to be able to bench 100lbs dumbbells. I started off at 40lbs 3 weeks ago and am currently at 50lbs. Doable in a year?

Are you shooting for a one-two max rep or to be able to comfortably do a standard set?

I think the first is very doable, the second is going to be hard.

 

[TheExodu5]

Are you shooting for a one-two max rep or to be able to comfortably do a standard set?

I think the first is very doable, the second is going to be hard.

I'll say 5 reps. Going to be sticking to Starting Strength. Think that program will be enough to help me reach that goal?

I would be careuk setting a max weight goal with dumbbells. Good way to get injured IMO. But 100lbs from 50 In a year is definitely doable.

Well my ideal at the moment is to not push a weight that I can't do for 5 reps without breaking proper form.

 

[PenguinPoacher]

I'll say 5 reps. Going to be sticking to Starting Strength. Think that program will be enough to help me reach that goal?



Well my ideal at the moment is to not push a weight that I can't do for 5 reps without breaking proper form.

Getting up that high in a year will be hard.

 

[kylej]

My one rep max on dumbbells after 14 months of lifting is 105lbs. I'm 5'8", 170lbs. Definitely doable, 5 reps with perfect form will be pretty tough though unless you're a big dude.

edit. I should also say I started with, like, 20lb dumbbells, so you've already got a good bench foundation. I think you can do it.

 

[Gray Man]

So hey guys. I'm a hard gainer and a month ago I started a ten week diet of a gallon of whole milk a day. Coupled with the crossfit workouts Ive been doing at my local crossfit gym, ive gained ten pounds of muscle so far.

I know I mentioned crossfit and that might be a dirty word here, not sure. I do know that some gyms are sketchy and the trainers lose sight of you proper form and technique in favor of a better time, but none of that goes down where I'm at.

Can't go past 162 pounds, wtf body. I'm probably overeating 5 times a day with min. 150g of protein and 300g carbs (I've had quite a few 3000+ calorie days).

Look into the ten week whole milk diet I mentioned. A gallon a day isnt easy though, and some people dont handle milk well.

 

[agrajag]

So hey guys. I'm a hard gainer and a month ago I started a ten week diet of a gallon of whole milk a day. Coupled with the crossfit workouts Ive been doing at my local crossfit gym, ive gained ten pounds of muscle so far.

I know I mentioned crossfit and that might be a dirty word here, not sure. I do know that some gyms are sketchy and the trainers lose sight of you proper form and technique in favor of a better time, but none of that goes down where I'm at.

This thread is weird. Seems like everyone worships at the altar of Mark Rippetoe, but at the same time make fun of crossfit, which he whole heartedly endorses.

Look into the ten week whole milk diet I mentioned. A gallon a day isnt easy though, and some people dont handle milk well.

I can't imagine it. I tried drinking a whole gallon in one day and couldn't do it. Also, I'm not lactose intolerant to my knowledge, but it made me gassy as hell.

 

[Price Dalton]

This thread is weird. Seems like everyone worships at the altar of Mark Rippetoe, but at the same time make fun of crossfit, which he whole heartedly endorses.




I can't imagine it. I tried drinking a whole gallon in one day and couldn't do it. Also, I'm not lactose intolerant to my knowledge, but it made me gassy as hell.

Rippetoe used to be affiliated with Crossfit, but they've since parted ways, and he's actually quite critical of their methods.

 

[TheExodu5]

My one rep max on dumbbells after 14 months of lifting is 105lbs. I'm 5'8", 170lbs. Definitely doable, 5 reps with perfect form will be pretty tough though unless you're a big dude.

edit. I should also say I started with, like, 20lb dumbbells, so you've already got a good bench foundation. I think you can do it.

Heh, well I'm definitely not a big dude at all. Was always a skinny kid, though I put on some fat in these past few years (at 170lbs now, down from 190lbs last year).

Still, hopefully I'm genetically predisposed to gaining strength easily enough...my dad used to bench 300lbs when he was working out around 10 years ago...he got up to there in a fairly short amount of time. He started working out again a few months back...he can bench 85lbs dumbbells at the moment. He's kind of flaking out though, so I want to try to surprise him and pass him in strength. If I can make 85lbs, I'll be happy...but 100lbs would be tremendous.

 

[kylej]

So hey guys. I'm a hard gainer and a month ago I started a ten week diet of a gallon of whole milk a day. Coupled with the crossfit workouts Ive been doing at my local crossfit gym, ive gained ten pounds of muscle so far.
.

10lbs of muscle in a month, or 10lbs of muscle in the entire time you've been lifting?

This thread is weird. Seems like everyone worships at the altar of Mark Rippetoe, but at the same time make fun of crossfit, which he whole heartedly endorses.

"I tried CrossFit for 2 years. It exacerbated my injuries, produced some significant health problems, forced me to rationalize the illogic of the program in public, and set my strength back about 5 years. I'm just now recovering. So I'll be more careful in the future about trying things that actually make no fucking sense."

http://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/com..._rippetoe_author_of_starting_strength/c35il7s

 

[Petrie]

So hey guys. I'm a hard gainer and a month ago I started a ten week diet of a gallon of whole milk a day. Coupled with the crossfit workouts Ive been doing at my local crossfit gym, ive gained ten pounds of muscle so far.

No, you didn't.

10lbs of muscle would be a reasonable expectation in a 4-6 month period of very hard training, not crossfit. You have not gained anywhere close to 10 lbs of muscle in a month.

10lbs of muscle in a month, or 10lbs of muscle in the entire time you've been lifting?

Well it definitely isn't for former so.

 

[PenguinPoacher]

A gallon of whole milk a day seems a bit on the unhealthy side, I might try 1% before I did that.

Edit: And if you are drinking whole milk that is not 10 lbs of muscle.

 

[Skeyser]

Edit: And if you are drinking whole milk that is not 10 lbs of muscle.

Yeah, more like 8 pound of fat 2 pound of muscles.

 

[Szu]

I've decided to set a goal for myself, as suggested: to be able to bench 100lbs dumbbells. I started off at 40lbs 3 weeks ago and am currently at 50lbs. Doable in a year?

It's definitely doable. I would even say that once you can hit 75-85 lbs for reps, then you can try to "ease" your way into the 100. Of course, have a spotter for safety reasons.

 

[Petrie]

Yeah, more like 8 pound of fat 2 pound of muscles.

If he is luck. I'd guess maybe 1 lb of muscle, a whole lot of water, and like 4 lbs of fat.

A gallon of whole milk a day seems a bit on the unhealthy side, I might try 1% before I did that.

Edit: And if you are drinking whole milk that is not 10 lbs of muscle.

It doesn't matter what kind of milk, he did not add 10 lbs of muscle in a month of any program, let alone crossfit.

 

[agrajag]

"I tried CrossFit for 2 years. It exacerbated my injuries, produced some significant health problems, forced me to rationalize the illogic of the program in public, and set my strength back about 5 years. I'm just now recovering. So I'll be more careful in the future about trying things that actually make no fucking sense."

http://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/com..._rippetoe_author_of_starting_strength/c35il7s

Sounds sketchy to me. He wrote numerous articles for them and endorsed them publicly. So he did all that without even testing it out first? Sounds like an untrustworthy guy who would recommend unsafe training programs to make a quick buck.

 

[PenguinPoacher]

If he is luck. I'd guess maybe 1 lb of muscle, a whole lot of water, and like 4 lbs of fat.



It doesn't matter what kind of milk, he did not add 10 lbs of muscle in a month of any program, let alone crossfit.

Oh, I agree. I was just trying to imagine what a gallon of whole milk a day is doing to your body.

 

[chrisisawesome]

What's your training routine?

From what I understand, it's much easier to bulk and then cut, than it is to do both at the same time. May want to try that instead.

What I'm aiming for is basically keeping my training routing, which is:
- chest, back, shoulders (mon, wed)
- biceps, triceps, abs/core (tues, thurs, sometimes friday)
- weekends do some legs

And stay at my current weight to "fill out" with muscle.
Does that make sense, or a waste of time?

 

[twofold]

Meat slop and chicken breast. Mmmm.

 

[Petrie]

Oh, I agree. I was just trying to imagine what a gallon of whole milk a day is doing to your body.

Ruining it. Causing fat gain you'll spend months trying to reverse later when you realize you added all fat and barely any muscle.

 

[Cudder]

What I'm aiming for is basically keeping my training routing, which is:
- chest, back, shoulders (mon, wed)
- biceps, triceps, abs/core (tues, thurs, sometimes friday)
- weekends do some legs

And stay at my current weight to "fill out" with muscle.
Does that make sense, or a waste of time?

Looks like a heavy routine to me. You're doing way too many exercises on a single day, 3 body parts in a single day? Really? Not that theres anything particularly wrong with that, but doing them twice a week seems a bit much.

 

[TheExodu5]

What I'm aiming for is basically keeping my training routing, which is:
- chest, back, shoulders (mon, wed)
- biceps, triceps, abs/core (tues, thurs, sometimes friday)
- weekends do some legs

And stay at my current weight to "fill out" with muscle.
Does that make sense, or a waste of time?

The advice I've gotten from many people so far is that it's much better and more efficient to focus on compound exercises rather than isolation exercises. Maybe you should check out Starting Strength, as proposed in the OP. That's what I'll be doing for the forseeable future.

Also, if you would rather keep your split routine, you should at least separate the muscle groups properly.

Back + biceps
Chest + triceps
(not sure where shoulders fit in...with triceps, I would guess?)

Don't work on two big muscle groups in the same day (chest + back).

 

[Petrie]

What I'm aiming for is basically keeping my training routing, which is:
- chest, back, shoulders (mon, wed)
- biceps, triceps, abs/core (tues, thurs, sometimes friday)
- weekends do some legs

And stay at my current weight to "fill out" with muscle.
Does that make sense, or a waste of time?

That routine makes absolutely no sense. You're giving your body no time to rest and rebuild, especially because you have chest and back grouped, as well as bis and tris. That means your arms are getting no rest since back works bis and chest works tris, by default.

There is absolutely no logic or planning to what you are doing. Read the OP.

 

[TheExodu5]

Oh, one thing will be interested to see as well. I'm doing Starting Strength, right? Well I've got a friend onboard now as well (he's been working out for a year and a half or so), but he insists on doing extra workouts in between the Starting Strength Days, for example:

Monday - Workout A
Tuesday - biceps + triceps
Wednesday - Workout B
etc..

I wonder if adding workout days in between is seriously going to effect his gains or not.

 

[Petrie]

Oh, one thing will be interested to see as well. I'm doing Starting Strength, right? Well I've got a friend onboard now as well (he's been working out for a year and a half or so), but he insists on doing extra workouts in between the Starting Strength Days, for example:

Monday - Workout A
Tuesday - biceps + triceps
Wednesday - Workout B
etc..

I wonder if adding workout days in between is seriously going to effect his gains or not.

Yes, it will. Your friend is ignorantly ignoring the fact that your rest is just as important to your gains as the workouts.

If he wants to add some curls to the end of a day, go for it. What he is doing defeats the entire point of the program design.

 

[Kyaw]

Fuck, I'm still very unsure about my form on power cleans.

Am I supposed to start the explosive movement from the knees or just above the shins?

Do I drop in my shoulders under the barbell with minimum distance of the bar from my body?

I've watched a ton of videos but when on the floor, I still manage to doubt myself.

 

[Gray Man]

No, you didn't.

10lbs of muscle would be a reasonable expectation in a 4-6 month period of very hard training, not crossfit. You have not gained anywhere close to 10 lbs of muscle in a month.



Well it definitely isn't for former so.

Yes, yes I have. Im a juinior on GAF, but not at the gym. Ive gained 12 pounds total, 2 to 3 in water weight and 9-10 in muscle. Im not sure what you want me to tell you man. I've been drinking an entire gallon every day. Other people have done this and have experienced similar, better, and worse results.

 

[Petrie]

Yes, yes I have. Im a juinior on GAF, but not at the gym. Ive gained 12 pounds total, 2 to 3 in water weight and 9-10 in muscle. Im not sure what you want me to tell you man. I've been drinking an entire gallon every day. Other people have done this and have experienced similar, better, and worse results.

No, they haven't. And the idea you think you've gained no fat shows you are a complete junior in the gym.

The human body literally cannot add that much muscle in that short a timeframe without steroids and other supplementation/stimulants. If you want to come across as knowing something, don't make claims that can't hold water. At absolute best the most gifted indiciduals genetically can add 5 lbs of muscle in the best possible month they could have, and they are doing heavy training, not crossfit.

You have added a ton of water, some fat, and a tiny bit of muscle.


And if you are as experienced as you claim, you'd also know that once your not a noob, if you can add 10 lbs of muscle in a goddamn year, that would be considered highly succesful. So, if you're a noob, you added 2 lbs of muscle and lots of fat and water. If you're experiences, you added 1 lb of muscle, and a ton of water and fat.

 

[FallingEdge]

Why aren't more of you fucking with pro7ein synthesis

What's the price on that? I can't seem to find anything and you can only get them instore. I might swing by sometime this week but it if is too expensive, then I'm just gonna pass.

And hitting up the gym again feels great. Hardest part right now is the cooking. I'm just lazy and don't want to make these meals but I got to lol. Eating a lot is hard right now =/

 

[Gray Man]

No, they haven't. And the idea you think you've gained no fat shows you are a complete junior in the gym.

The human body literally cannot add that much muscle in that short a timeframe without steroids and other supplementation/stimulants. If you want to come across as knowing something, don't make claims that can't hold water. At absolute best the most gifted indiciduals genetically can add 5 lbs of muscle in the best possible month they could have, and they are doing heavy training, not crossfit.

You have added a ton of water, some fat, and a tiny bit of muscle.


And if you are as experienced as you claim, you'd also know that once your not a noob, if you can add 10 lbs of muscle in a goddamn year, that would be considered highly succesful. So, if you're a noob, you added 2 lbs of muscle and lots of fat and water. If you're experiences, you added 1 lb of muscle, and a ton of water and fat.

Off course Ive gained some fat/water weight. Once I stop in a couple weeks I will have had lost probably 3-4 pounds of water weight, and then I'll be going to trim the fat I've gained off.

Other than that I know plenty of people, friends, and not, who have done similar things and not a single person has been as hostile and absolutely convinced someone they didn't know was a "noob"

Secondly, why are you so dead set against Crossfit being effective? Or less effective than your methods? With my experience in Crossfit so far, I haven't noticed any of the criticisms many people like to put out.

Programs are well thought out.
Technique comes first, weight later.
An added emphasis on nutrition.
Most clients see the results they want and are looking for.

 

[TheExodu5]

Fuck, I'm still very unsure about my form on power cleans.

Am I supposed to start the explosive movement from the knees or just above the shins?

Do I drop in my shoulders under the barbell with minimum distance of the bar from my body?

I've watched a ton of videos but when on the floor, I still manage to doubt myself.

I watched through the entire 30 minute video on Starting Strength, which has helped a lot.

Start the explosive movement a bit above the knees, when it's maybe 1/4 - 1/3 of the way up the thigh. Focus on getting your elbows up as high as you can before catching it (the top part of your arm should ideally be about parallel to the ground). This will raise your shoulders and you should be catching the bar on your shoulders.

I did power cleans for the first time yesterday, and I need confidence as well in my motion. I'm not getting my elbows up fast enough, which results in my catching it with my arms/wrists, instead of my shoulders.

 

[SeanR1221]

My one friend told me he's gonna start doing squats and deads to pass me on fitocracy. Hey whatever motivates people.

Yesterday I did a 20 rep squat at 135lbs. It was actually a lot harder than I thought.

 

[Gray Man]

Fuck, I'm still very unsure about my form on power cleans.

Am I supposed to start the explosive movement from the knees or just above the shins?

Do I drop in my shoulders under the barbell with minimum distance of the bar from my body?

I've watched a ton of videos but when on the floor, I still manage to doubt myself.

I watched through the entire 30 minute video on Starting Strength, which has helped a lot.

Start the explosive movement a bit above the knees, when it's maybe 1/4 - 1/3 of the way up the thigh. Focus on getting your elbows up as high as you can before catching it (the top part of your arm should ideally be about parallel to the ground). This will raise your shoulders and you should be catching the bar on your shoulders.

I did power cleans for the first time yesterday, and I need confidence as well in my motion. I'm not getting my elbows up fast enough, which results in my catching it with my arms/wrists, instead of my shoulders.

When I was doing my power cleans I couldn't figure out what the problem was, after seeking some advice I discovered that I had pretty good form, good stance, hip extension, however my issue was I was getting that full explosive shoulder shrug before throwing my elbows out, and catching it on my shoulders in the rack position. Once I practiced that technique I was surprised how much more weight I was able to safely power clean.

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

I've decided to set a goal for myself, as suggested: to be able to bench 100lbs dumbbells. I started off at 40lbs 3 weeks ago and am currently at 50lbs. Doable in a year?

Easily doable as long as you're eating right. Do what I did:

-Warm up with 50s
-70lbs/10 reps
-80lbs/10 reps
-90lbs/10 reps
-100lbs/6-10 reps

If you have to start out with 60lb DBs, then do that isntead of jumping to the 70s.

 

[Kyaw]

I watched through the entire 30 minute video on Starting Strength, which has helped a lot.

Start the explosive movement a bit above the knees, when it's maybe 1/4 - 1/3 of the way up the thigh. Focus on getting your elbows up as high as you can before catching it (the top part of your arm should ideally be about parallel to the ground). This will raise your shoulders and you should be catching the bar on your shoulders.

I did power cleans for the first time yesterday, and I need confidence as well in my motion. I'm not getting my elbows up fast enough, which results in my catching it with my arms/wrists, instead of my shoulders.

There's a 30 minute video on Starting Strength? Can you share it please?

I'll try your advice, thanks!
I'm also trying to catch the bar with my wrists as I just can't push my elbow out at far at all.

 

[FallingEdge]

My one friend told me he's gonna start doing squats and deads to pass me on fitocracy. Hey whatever motivates people.

Yesterday I did a 20 rep squat at 135lbs. It was actually a lot harder than I thought.

Ah yes. 20 rep breathing squats. Wait till you get to 200 lbs. You haven't felt pain until you try that.

 

[Petrie]

Off course Ive gained some fat/water weight. Once I stop in a couple weeks I will have had lost probably 3-4 pounds of water weight, and then I'll be going to trim the fat I've gained off.

Other than that I know plenty of people, friends, and not, who have done similar things and not a single person has been as hostile and absolutely convinced someone they didn't know was a "noob"

Secondly, why are you so dead set against Crossfit being effective? Or less effective than your methods? With my experience in Crossfit so far, I haven't noticed any of the criticisms many people like to put out.

Programs are well thought out.
Technique comes first, weight later.
An added emphasis on nutrition.
Most clients see the results they want and are looking for.

No hostility towards crossfit if it fits with your goals, but a crossfit program in particular is not going to give you those type of muscle gains, even with steroids.

You have gained at most 2 lbs of muscle. As said, the human body can not do what you have claimed. It literally cannot create that much muscle in that timeframe without steroids.

 

[TheExodu5]

There's a 30 minute video on Starting Strength? Can you share it please?

I'll try your advice, thanks!
I'm also trying to catch the bar with my wrists as I just can't push my elbow out at far at all.

If you have trouble pushing out your elbows far enough, the advice was to hold the bar with a wider grip, which should help.

 

[The Mana Legend]

Fuck yeah, 3.5 mile run at 5mph at an incline (don't remember how much of an incline) after a 40 minute workout.

Feels so good to get back to exercising fully again.

 

[despire]

There's a 30 minute video on Starting Strength? Can you share it please?

He's probably talking about the Starting Strength DVD which has extensive videos on all the lifts. Pretty good stuff.

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

Anyone ever done tough mudder? I'm gonna do it here in FL. Not gonna bother to train, either. Will die.