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Fitness |OT4| Squat Booty, Summer Cuts, and Super Swoletrophy

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Why aren't more of you fucking with pro7ein synthesis?

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It tastes pretty good with milk. I got chocolate, but I've heard great things about the Cookies N Cream flavor too...
 

Petrie

Banned
Why aren't more of you fucking with pro7ein synthesis?

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It tastes pretty good with milk. I got chocolate, but I've heard great things about the Cookies N Cream flavor too...

Lets see the actual ingedient list though. There's really 2 schools of thought in this thread, those looking for the cheapest upfront cost for the most protein possible with as few carbs, and those looking to spend more for a product that provides those benefits without artifical sweeteners and additives.
 
So I've been running a few miles everyday for a few weeks (after a winter of disgusting laziness). I have no weight problems, I'm really just trying to stay fit.

But I've been wanting to add some muscle as well, but I don't want to sacrifice my running just to get more defined muscles (I don't want to overdo the exercising this early), so I don't want to add an entire workout routine. Would just doing sets of squats with weights be enough to add at least a little definition?

My diet has mainly consists of lots of roasted chicken, protein shakes, wheat toast, some eggs, bananas, etc (stuff I've always eaten, other than the protein shakes, which I just started to drink to test if I liked them or not). So diet is not an issue with me.
 

Petrie

Banned
Going to be going to my girlfriends camp for a week, and won't be in town able to go to my gym regularly for 2 weeks. I'm thinking I'll just go ahead and call it a major deload before I start bulking again, hit the gym with friends if I can while I'm there, but if I can't, I'll just have to deal. Hopefully it won't cost me too much progress. Debating getting some sandbags and duffel bags to workout some while I'm there. Think it's worthwhile?
 
Well it's not just getting more carbs, keep in mind to bulk you need to take in a calorie surplus. Start out slow, then ramp up the calories as you get comfortable. Depending on whether you want to do a dirty or a clean bulk, you'll adjust your food sources accordingly.

Oh. I've bulked before. I know that i have to eat more than I take in. When I last bulked it was dirty. I want a nice, slow, clean bulk with heavy compounds lifts.

At my height and activity level i'll need around 3,500 cals a day

How's this diet?

Breakfast:

--1 Cup of oatmeal with almond milk
--Serving of flax in my oatmeal
--Cinnamon for my oatmeal
--A sausage link
--4 eggs scrambled in butter and coconut milk with cheese
--Blackberries

Should put me at 1000-1100 cals right off the bat

Lunch

--Whey protein shake (almond milk, whey, berries, a lil coconut milk)
--1 Skinless chicken breast or thigh
--1 Sweet potato with butter

Dinner

--1 Skinless chicken breast or thigh
--1 Sweet potato with butter
--Glass of whole milk

Snack

Probably a nut snack with whole milk

Pre-Bed Snack

--Cup of greek yogurt
--Blackberries
--Flax seeds
--Coconut milk
--Scoop of casein
--Cinnamon

Post workout shake

Chocolate milk with whey protein.

And i'll probably put cinammon in everything I drink to help metabolize the sugars in my body as fast as possible.

Edit: And just to make sure my cals are high enough, i'm thinking about leaving the fat on the chicken as it. It tastes great anyway.
 

M_A_C

Member
Why aren't more of you fucking with pro7ein synthesis?

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It tastes pretty good with milk. I got chocolate, but I've heard great things about the Cookies N Cream flavor too...

That looks pretty good. I just bought a 5lb jug of Dymatize ISO-100 or I'd try it.
 

MDR1750

Neo Member
So you you have to add flavor or something? Whats it taste like if I just throw it in a shaker right after my workout?

I use the bulk flavourless whey too and I don't mind the bland taste. it's not tasty by any stretch of the imagination, but if I'm in the mood for something sweeter I'll add a tea spoon of cocoa powder, some cinnamon, and a packet of low calorie sweetener or stevia to my shaker.

adding walden farms zero calorie syrups work well too but they are hard to find where I live. I order some online occasionally but they are pretty pricey for the amount you get. In canada they are $4.49 for 355ml (the size of a can of coke).

I don't drink a lot of shakes to begin with. I use most of my whey for baking. I like making protein pancakes for my first meal:

175g (3/4 cup) egg whites
1 scoop of whey
60g (2/3 cup) oats
1 tablebspoon unsweetened cocoa powder
2 tablespoons milled flaxseed
some ground cinnamon (eyeball it)

optional ingredients: any fruit laying around, 1 or 2 packets of low calories sweetener, peanut butter, walden farms zero calorie pancake syrup

blend; batter makes about 3-5 pancakes depending on the size you make them (smaller = easier to flip) cook on medium for approx 2min each side on a non-stick pan (cover the pan with foil if you don't have a lid for it). takes about 15-20min to make the whole batch and clean up if you have a small, easy to clean blender.

without any optional ingredients the macros are:
563 calories
37g net carbs
55g protein
13g fat (with 5g being omega 3)


and it's easy to play with the macros if you need more or less calories. If you are low carbing it keep in mind the less oats you use the more watery the blended batter will become. If you go to 30g (1/3 cup) oats or less, add some baking powder to the mix to improve consistency (you don't need baking powder if you use the ingredients in the proportions I listed above).
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
How does that happen? I mean really, isn't it a rule of thumb that lower-body compound lifts like squats are important for getting big everywhere else?

Maybe those guys have problems with their legs anyway and can't work them, I dunno...
 
How does that happen? I mean really, isn't it a rule of thumb that lower-body compound lifts like squats are important for getting big everywhere else?

Maybe those guys have problems with their legs anyway and can't work them, I dunno...

I don't know,for some reason people seem to forget about their lower body. They just think about their arms and abs.
 

TheExodu5

Banned
No, it's 120 cal for 23g protein 1.5g fat. 2.5g non fiber carbs

Ahh okay, that sounds pretty good then. I'll have to check it out.

Anyways, just finished Workout B tonight. That was fun!

My friends aren't doing cleans the way I learned them watching Starting Strength. They don't do the lower portion of it (shin to lower thigh), and also don't catch it with elbows out (they use their upper body to pull up a lot of the weight and catch it with elbows down). Now, maybe they're right and you can do power cleans that way, but I wouldn't mind pointing them to evidence of the contrary if it will help their workout.

Also, they seem to think it's a really bad idea for me to keep my feet side to side for overhead press. They have one foot forward and one foot back, which gives a very low center of gravity. My thoughts is that the problem with such a stance is it will allow you to do the overhead press with bad form (putting your lower back into it). With a side to side stance, it seems that if my form were poor, I would end up falling over...I'd think that's a good thing. Any input?
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
Also, they seem to think it's a really bad idea for me to keep my feet side to side for overhead press. They have one foot forward and one foot back, which gives a very low center of gravity. My thoughts is that the problem with such a stance is it will allow you to do the overhead press with bad form (putting your lower back into it). With a side to side stance, it seems that if my form were poor, I would end up falling over...I'd think that's a good thing. Any input?

I've tried the one-foot-forward stance and I don't like it. I just have them even and a couple feet apart from one another.
 

balddemon

Banned
Ahh okay, that sounds pretty good then. I'll have to check it out.

Anyways, just finished Workout B tonight. That was fun!

My friends aren't doing cleans the way I learned them watching Starting Strength. They don't do the lower portion of it (shin to lower thigh), and also don't catch it with elbows out (they use their upper body to pull up a lot of the weight and catch it with elbows down). Now, maybe they're right and you can do power cleans that way, but I wouldn't mind pointing them to evidence of the contrary if it will help their workout.

Also, they seem to think it's a really bad idea for me to keep my feet side to side for overhead press. They have one foot forward and one foot back, which gives a very low center of gravity. My thoughts is that the problem with such a stance is it will allow you to do the overhead press with bad form (putting your lower back into it). With a side to side stance, it seems that if my form were poor, I would end up falling over...I'd think that's a good thing. Any input?

what i've noticed is that its easier to push press with one in front and one in back. for strict ohp i do side by side
 

TheExodu5

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what i've noticed is that its easier to push press with one in front and one in back. for strict ohp i do side by side

TBH I found ohp easier like that as well, but I could also feel it in my back which is telling me I just had bad form as I was putting my lower back into the press as well.
 

TheExodu5

Banned
Thoughts on dumbbell bench press? I'd rather do dumbbell most of the time because it's more convenient to me than barbell bench press, and it's also safer if I have to bench alone.
 

mooooose

Member
Thoughts on dumbbell bench press? I'd rather do dumbbell most of the time because it's more convenient to me than barbell bench press, and it's also safer if I have to bench alone.
I like it more and saw more gains with it honestly, but I switched to barbell because it's easier to add small increments.
 

TheExodu5

Banned
I like it more and saw more gains with it honestly, but I switched to barbell because it's easier to add small increments.

Yeah last week when I tried I could do 45lbs for 8 reps and 50 lbs for only 4-5 reps. This week I did 45lbs for 10 reps, so I'm sure 50lbs should be fine for 5 reps throughout. Might take me a few weeks to get it to 55lbs though.

So anyways, my starting weights for Starting Strength are looking something like this:

Squat - 125lbs
Bench - 50lbs dumbbells
Deadlifts - 100lbs for 8 reps...I think I can squeeze out 125lbs at 5 reps...I'll update with an accurate 5RM tomorrow.
Press - 65lbs
Power clean - 85lbs. Tried 95lbs but my landing had poor form so I went back to 85lbs.

Look okay?
 

Petrie

Banned
what i've noticed is that its easier to push press with one in front and one in back. for strict ohp i do side by side

The thing is on SS you're going for full body, and your full body gets much more involved in barbell, hence why you can do so much more total weight.
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
lol, I see folks like that around the gym. Like, what is the mentality of someone who is proactive to go workout but ignore legs?

He looks like someone that has been wheelchair bound for 15 years and is miraculously able to walk again.
 
lol, I see folks like that around the gym. Like, what is the mentality of someone who is proactive to go workout but ignore legs?
Funnily enough, I actually do that... I know I should incorporate a leg day, but then again I do jog and such so it isn't like I totally neglect exercising my lower body. Only so many days to work out a week with school and work.
 
Alight Fitness GAF, Broke my own record today. Since the beginning of May I weighed 266 pounds, today I am down to 218

As for the record I broke, I usually try to burn 350 calories on the treadmill after an intense weight training. Today, I got too 700. Gonna go with 700 for 2 weeks then up it to 800.

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cryptic

Member
Alight Fitness GAF, Broke my own record today. Since the beginning of May I weighed 266 pounds, today I am down to 218

As for the record I broke, I usually try to burn 350 calories on the treadmill after an intense weight training. Today, I got too 700. Gonna go with 700 for 2 weeks then up it to 800.

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What were your settings? I bring mine up to 11 speed and it only goes .4 cal a sec or so.
 
This sucks, I really am not seeing results. I have a fairly low body fat percentage, and usually after just a few weeks I can clearly see results (I workout on-again off-again due to my ridiculous school schedule). Ever since summer started I've been hitting the gym 4-5 times a week, and although I am able to increase the amount of weight I can lift in my exercices, I just dont "feel" as fit...
Maybe it's what I'm eating (I am very careful not to eat badly).
Anyone ever feel this way?
 
This sucks, I really am not seeing results. I have a fairly low body fat percentage, and usually after just a few weeks I can clearly see results (I workout on-again off-again due to my ridiculous school schedule). Ever since summer started I've been hitting the gym 4-5 times a week, and although I am able to increase the amount of weight I can lift in my exercices, I just dont "feel" as fit...
Maybe it's what I'm eating (I am very careful not to eat badly).
Anyone ever feel this way?

cos you are a noob!!

No! seriously is all about your diet, 30% workout and the other 70% is the food you eat. Just eat beef, chicken and eggs. Never takes protein powder, is a waste of money and it makes you looks bloated.
 

Petrie

Banned
cos you are a noob!!

No! seriously is all about your diet, 30% workout and the other 70% is the food you eat. Just eat beef, chicken and eggs. Never takes protein powder, is a waste of money and it makes you looks bloated.

Please don't come in this thread and spew completely false bullshit like this. Thanks.
 

Petrie

Banned
Some guy here said powder is not needed as long as you eat enough protein.

Which is true. Statements about it being a waste of money and making you look bloated are false bullshit.


I agree, and am an example of that. Haven't have protein powder in months, especially now that it's outrageously expensive.

Depends where you buy it I guess. Not really that expensive when purchased in bulk though, and is still a very affordable source of protein compared to others.
 
cos you are a noob!!

No! seriously is all about your diet, 30% workout and the other 70% is the food you eat. Just eat beef, chicken and eggs. Never takes protein powder, is a waste of money and it makes you looks bloated.

Haha! I'm definitely not an "expert" by any means! Yea I really watch what I eat even though the last thing I need to do is lose weight. I'm basically trying to stay at my current weight, but just get more cut/lean. The only cheat foods I eat are frozen yogurt and random bits of chocolate (ex: a quaker chocolate covered bar will last 2 days at least).
Other than that its :
- sugar reduced oatmeal + a little protein powder for taste
- fruits: cantaloupe, strawberries, raspberries, blueberries
- egg white omelettes + veggies
- chicken/fish + salads...

Maybe i need to hit the gym "harder"?
 

TheExodu5

Banned
Haha! I'm definitely not an "expert" by any means! Yea I really watch what I eat even though the last thing I need to do is lose weight. I'm basically trying to stay at my current weight, but just get more cut/lean. The only cheat foods I eat are frozen yogurt and random bits of chocolate (ex: a quaker chocolate covered bar will last 2 days at least).
Other than that its :
- sugar reduced oatmeal + a little protein powder for taste
- fruits: cantaloupe, strawberries, raspberries, blueberries
- egg white omelettes + veggies
- chicken/fish + salads...

Maybe i need to hit the gym "harder"?

What's your training routine?

From what I understand, it's much easier to bulk and then cut, than it is to do both at the same time. May want to try that instead.
 

balddemon

Banned
wednesdays always suck massive testicles

5x7x285 squat
then basketball. i had very little left in my legs, then for the last 2 games i had none. now i dont wanna get out of the computer chair to shower
 

Darkman M

Member
Best tasting protein powder ive ever had.

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I usually go with Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey Gold Standard milk chocolate, but this stuff is the truth.
 
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