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Football•Soccer•Fútbol•Fussball Thread 2010/2011 |OT2|

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Scum said:
I remember when I was back home in Ghana, staying with my grandparents for a few years. Football for us kids was practically self taught. No one wanted to be in goal. So what we did was simple. We had 3ft wide goals on a small side pitch and played 2-3 touch footie. Everything you need to know about football was right there. ;-)

Seeing kids playing on full side pitches in England at such a young age nowadays just..welll.... :-(

Our school pitch was/still is bigger than the old Wembley pitch. That's how crazy it is. So much kick and rush.

WJD said:
The was also a heavy focus on 'Wembley singles/doubles' when I played at school which obviously leads to emphasis on individuals and poking home a dodgy deflection or something.

I had to look that up to see you meant 'Cubbies' which is what we call it round ours. And yeah, I agree that it does make things difficult. I used to prefer playing smaller sided games (3 a side even) rather than Cubbies, but what can ya do.
 
Scum said:
Seeing kids playing on full side pitches in England at such a young age nowadays just..welll.... :-(

Changes in 2013 to youth pitch and team size, with the introduction of a 9v9 step between Mini Soccer and 11v11 (3/4 Size Pitch).

As for my football playing days, I used to play on tarmac in the school play ground. The middle was the football pitch, but we weren't allowed a football so had to play with a tennis ball (which led to a lot of scuffed/ruined shoes where the bottom of the shoe would peel away).

The outside of the 'pitch' was where we'd play F1 and just run around in circles for 10 minutes!

At the age of 16 I stopped playing, as I could never get a game, and didn't want to leave to find another team without any of my friends. The coaching was terrible too.

1 Hour coaching session was basically a game, with little coaching at all, outside of the manager shouting when we should pass or shot. No technical coaching. You basically taught yourself how to kick a ball. In hindsight, that experience is probably one of the motivators I have to become a good coach.
 

Yen

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Dark Machine said:
Even at clubs like Liverpool and United and Arsenal? Or are we talking lower down where many of the English young players actually are being brought up.
Not even Chriswok could have any complaints about Borrell/Segura!
 

Scum

Junior Member
Chriswok said:
That's because they're void of decision making, and they resort to to the only thing they can remember - their coach shouting at them to get the ball forward. It takes a brave coach to do his coaching during the week, and to sit and allow his players to play the game at the weekend.

You might get involved throughout the game in small doses, reminders about positioning, or questioning a player's decision with an open question, but you shouldn't be on the touchline for 90minutes playing the game for them.

This is exactly how it should be. Oh well, next year's Euro Championships should be fun. :p
 

elseanio

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Yenrot said:
Not even Chriswok could have any complaints about Borrell/Segura!
He did intentionally leave them out in his reply :p

Everton lad Hope scored for u17

Who is co-commentating? He's hilarious! Just mentioned stay on your feet
 
Yenrot said:
Not even Chriswok could have any complaints about Borrell/Segura!

Mike Marsh is apparently doing well with his U16s side as well. Lovely pass and move.

And we used to play with Tennis balls, coke cans even a golf ball once.
 
Tennis ball football was the best!

In fairness, Liverpool do look to have a good setup. I know Chelsea are considered the best in the current FA review of Academies and their setups. I've haven't seen Liverpool's, or worked with any of their coaches yet, so can't really comment too much.
 

Scum

Junior Member
Dark Machine said:
Mike Marsh is apparently doing well with his U16s side as well. Lovely pass and move.

And we used to play with Tennis balls, coke cans even a golf ball once.
:lol
As funny as this is, it taught me and my mates at school everything about first touch and composure. It became so piss easy to control a proper football after using a tennis ball. :eek:
 
Omiee said:
i just saw that barcelona bought sanchez for 38 million dollars.
that sucks, i'd rather have seen them buy fabregas.

It makes sense right now though. Sanchez can take over Pedro's spot, while Fabregas wouldn't be able to start with Xavi and Iniesta there.
 
Scum said:
I remember when I was back home in Ghana, staying with my grandparents for a few years. Football for us kids was practically self taught. No one wanted to be in goal. So what we did was simple. We had 3ft wide goals on a small side pitch and played 2-3 touch footie. Everything you need to know about football was right there. ;-)

Seeing kids playing on full side pitches in England at such a young age nowadays just..welll.... :-(

oh snap, another Ghanaian on GAF.

This is true, my biggest issue as a kid was playing on varying levels of dirt and shitty fields
 
Chriswok said:
In fairness, Liverpool do look to have a good setup. I know Chelsea are considered the best in the current FA review of Academies and their setups. I've haven't seen Liverpool's, or worked with any of their coaches yet, so can't really comment too much.

Not surprised you haven't worked with them yet mate, it's still a work in progress and very new. Thanks for the article, will have a read of that, looks interesting.

Also Raheem just showing his brilliance there. Lad looks so damn good on the ball.
 

neoanarch

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transfer rumours

Tottenham in for 2 mexicans Cubo Torres and Antonio Pedroza Whitham. Also Arsenal is set to sell Carlos Vela. Fucking Arsenal if you were going to sell him why did you deny him permission to play in Copa America.
 
I just went back to my list of video's and i came across Jay-Jay Okocha. Jesus the guy was Amazing, the "Greatest Trickster" in football history. The man had moves yet he was never recognized (It's his fault anyways). He has to be ranked in the top 20 greatest footballers of all time.
 

ShogunX

Member
GTP_Daverytimes said:
I just went back to my list of video's and i came across Jay-Jay Okocha. Jesus the guy was Amazing, the "Greatest Trickster" in football history. The man had moves yet he was never recognized (It's his fault anyways). He has to be ranked in the top 20 greatest footballers of all time.

So good they named him twice.
 
neoanarch said:
Also Arsenal is set to sell Carlos Vela. Fucking Arsenal if you were going to sell him why did you deny him permission to play in Copa America.
Because he's worth more fit than with a possible injury?

It's shitty for him and Mexico but it makes sense in a financial way.
 
WJD said:
The was also a heavy focus on 'Wembley singles/doubles' when I played at school which obviously leads to emphasis on individuals and poking home a dodgy deflection or something.

Heads and Volleys / 60 seconds is where its at
 

DominoKid

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farhatraza said:
There is no use having a go at the players. For one they are young and inexperienced. They can improve, will improve and some will be brilliant players.

What this shows is the problem within the system. Firstly, coaching wise, the players are not good enough, you see the young players other nations have and ours are well behind on a skill level. Secondly, our best player at this level is not even there. Wilshere should be playing, he'd make a big difference, but even if he didn't, it sends out the wrong message. He is not too good, too tired or too anything for the team or the level, Juan Mata is there for Spain. Wilshere should have gone. Lastly and most importantly is the management side, Pearce himself seems to have made mistakes, but nvm Pearce, nvm the results...what were England doing at this tournament? What was the aim? English football has no goal, no focal point, the national team has no idenity. Henderson may have had no idea what he was doing, i can live with that, he's young. Whats worrying is Pearce and the FA don't know what they want, we don't have a style, a template. Germany have their counter attack, Spain the possession, Brazil the quick samba pass and move. England as a national team have no style. It's a big problem.

Hoofball is the English style.

I'll never understand it. My youth coach had this thing where we'd basically do walkthroughs of our movement. So say the CAM passed it out to me on the wing, he'd stop play and asked me what I noticed first once I got the ball. Then he'd ask my closest teammates what they noticed. And it was all about building awareness and identifying space to move into. This was when I was 9 or 10 years old playing on travel teams. He also encouraged a lot of individual expression with the ball whereas other coaches in our league tried to stifle it.

He'd also flip out whenever we aimlessly hoofed it. That was probably the best team I was on cause we were one of the best teams in the state.
 

elseanio

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Jeff Albertson said:
Heads and Volleys / 60 seconds is where its at

Heads and Volleys is the only thing we played in school. Two jumpers for the posts. Sometimes 3 and in, but not many liked being in goal anyway..
 

Moobabe

Member
Jeff Albertson said:
Heads and Volleys / 60 seconds is where its at

Loved headers and volleys! The emphasis at our school was just fitness - some lads could REALLY play in the school side - and a lot that weren't in it. We had skills, movement, vision and, I like to think at least, we could have made a real run at representing the school at tournaments but weren't given the chance because we weren't of the required fitness.

Until people start recognising quality and training the fitness we won't go anywhere.
 

spons

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Didn't even realize our overlords provide livestreams of the U17 world cup. Missed a match because I thought it wasn't broadcast.
 

PaulLFC

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Just seen the highlights of the U17s... fantastic goal from Raheem! They need to fire whoever does the highlights videos though, it's like someone's discovered video editing for the first time and is trying to fit as many different clips and weird camera angles in in the shortest time possible.
 

elseanio

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PaulLFC said:
Just seen the highlights of the U17s... fantastic goal from Raheem! They need to fire whoever does the highlights videos though, it's like someone's discovered video editing for the first time and is trying to fit as many different clips and weird camera angles in in the shortest time possible.
Haha yeh, that highlight reel is shite. Looked like they got some fans to record from the stands. They should have just used Eurosport coverage
 
Ref fucked up the first penalty and the Panama goal.


Also, when el salavdor scored, and the camera panned around the stadium, it made it extremely obvious that 95% of the people were there to see that team.

USA-Jamaica was just a sideshow (and not a fully attended one at that).

Sort of sad.
 
farhatraza said:
We did tolerate Rooney and ended up giving him a pay rise but Tevez gets extra extra special treatment at City. I doubt that would be given at United. There are special cases but considering he shows zero effort to adapt to England and City do everything they can to help him...I'm surprised they don't let him go and use the money they have to replace him. He is repealable, he's no Ronaldo or Messi.

Not liking that blue United kit.

Why is that so hard for you to understand? He's as important to City as Ronaldo is to Real and Messi is to Barca.

And replace him with who? How many proven, dogged, hard-working, EPL proven, inspirational, game-winning goal-scoring machines are there? The relatively inneffectual signings of Dzeko and Balotelli underline why someone like Tevez is so invaluable.

The money he's on is a pittance considering what Tevez offers City.
 

Regulus Tera

Romanes Eunt Domus
KidA Seven said:
Fuck it bro. Bring Jona so US doesn't shit on Castro and Torrado. Jona will run circles around Bradley and Jones.

Bring Jona over here and you are gonna leave the Copa América squad in an even worse standing.

Apparently the players would be Marco Fabián de la Mora (Guadalajara), Héctor Reynoso (Guadalajara), Luis Michel (Guadalajara), Paul Aguilar (Pachuca), and Hiram Mier (Monterrey).

Forza Chiva, again.
 
Regulus Tera said:
Bring Jona over here and you are gonna leave the Copa América squad in an even worse standing.

Apparently the players would be Marco Fabián de la Mora (Guadalajara), Héctor Reynoso (Guadalajara), Luis Michel (Guadalajara), Paul Aguilar (Pachuca), and Hiram Mier (Monterrey).

Forza Chiva, again.

You're doing the same thing when you take Mier and Fabian out of the copa america team. Especially since the defense is the worst part of the u 22 team.

At least Jona can challenge for a starting spot since he has played with the senior team (NZ).
 
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