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Pedro signs new contract at Barca until 2016. has a buyout clause of 150 million euros.

 

[rvy]

has a buyout clause of 150 million euros.

The fuck... are they just coming up with randomly inflated numbers these days?

 

[near]

I know I wouldn't pay €30 million for Coentrão. Pretty sure Mou can get him to be a much better defender anyway.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12875_7021643,00.html

Woop, looks like it is confirmed and I was wrong. £27million is a bizarre figure for someone they don't quite need.

 

[anonnumber6]

The fuck... are they just coming up with randomly inflated numbers these days?

Release clauses are required, putting a big figure just insures they don't lose their player for less than they would like.

 

[Kermit The Dog]

I tend to call BS as I see it; maybe you're just lucky. I've been calling Clichy a liability for a couple of seasons now; I'm not saying he'll do poorly at City - maybe he'll flourish - but I'm not 'jealous' of the signing or attacking your club. I just don't think he's a good player.

And I don't support any 'Red' club

Who do you support?

I haven't defended Clichy, I honestly haven't seen enough of him to really be a good judge on him as a player. I'm just happy we have more options.

Anyway, Salazar, being a Queenslander, I think it's time you came and hung out with some real Manchester supporters next week. We're having a early breakfast at the Pig N Whistle in Brisbane CBD on July 17 for the pre-season friendly against Club America. It's an official supporters club gathering and we have about 80 members. Might be good for you to hang around true Manc supporters for a change, who's introduction to their club WASN'T via the discovery of cheap merchandise in a supermarket clearance bin. ; )

 

[Shake Appeal]

What's going to happen now? Will Inter be fined/face any prosecution? Quite disgraceful something like this could happen really.

The statute of limitations for this was five years. The same FIGC prosecutor who took three weeks to find Juventus guilty in 2006 took a year to release this 70-page document yesterday. Conveniently, the statute of limitations just passed, so no, Inter will not suffer any fines or penalties. They may lose the 2006 scudetto (it will go unassigned, same as 2005), but that'll be that.

Article by (admitted Juve fan) Carlo Garganese at goal.com:

Palazzi’s most damaging claims listed the following Calcio figures as being guilty back in 2006 of -- along with Juventus -- violating Article 1 of the Code of Sporting Justice:

Campedelli (Chievo), Cellino (Cagliari), Corsi (Empoli), Foschi (Palermo), Foti (Reggina), Gasparin (Vicenza), Governato (Brescia), Meani (Milan), Moratti (Inter), Spalletti (Udinese).

Palazzi also alleged that the following men should have been found guilty of violating Article 6 of the Code of Sporting Justice:

Facchetti (Inter), Meani (Milan), Spinelli (Livorno).

Article 6 violations (the attempt to gain an advantage in the standings through match-fixing or attempted match-fixing) are deemed worthy of immediate relegation. Even in the now-discredited trial of 2006, Juventus were cleared of any Article 6 violations, and were only demoted due to a combination of Article 1 violations, misdemeanours that had never before resulted in anything more than fines or, at most, a minor points penalty.

Thus, according to the FIGC’s chief investigator, it is Inter, Milan and Livorno who should have been relegated in 2006 and not Juventus.

But, due to the Statute of Limitations, there will be no further punishment. While Juventus will emerge as moral winners after a five-year struggle for justice, their current owners will not embark on the road for compensation for their wrongful relegation. With John Elkann's administration having made big sponsorship deals with Inter-influenced companies TIM and La Gazzetta dello Sport, there is zero possibility of action.

And yeah, it is disgraceful... for the whole of Italian football, Juventus included. But it does sting that we were the only ones who paid more than a minor points penalty for it.

 

[rvy]

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12875_7021643,00.html

Woop, looks like it is confirmed and I was wrong. £27million is a bizarre figure for someone they don't quite need.

I like bizarre ! They still owe us money, as far as I'm concerned. Ángelito was a bargain.

 

[Vivalaraza]

The statute of limitations for this was five years. The same FIGC prosecutor who took three weeks to find Juventus guilty in 2006 took a year to release this 70-page document yesterday. Conveniently, the statute of limitations just passed, so no, Inter will not suffer any fines or penalties. They may lose the 2006 scudetto (it will go unassigned, same as 2005), but that'll be that.

Article by (admitted Juve fan) Carlo Garganese at goal.com:



And yeah, it is disgraceful... for the whole of Italian football, Juventus included. But it does sting that we were the only ones who paid more than a minor points penalty for it.

Wow that is ridiculous. So why is it that Juve took the hit for this more than the Milan sides? At the time I remember AC had basically been found guilty of the same thing as Juve but got a really minor punishment in comparison. Is there some kind of establishment bias towards the Milan clubs? Aren't Juve an absolutely huge club in Italy too?

I really hope Juve get Aguero and come back to the top now. Used to love their team of the early 00's...I love watching Aguero so if he goes to Juve I may buy a Juve jersey with his name on it =)

 

[KidA Seven]

FFS when will United announce the away kit?

 

[Moobabe]

Who do you support?

I haven't defended Clichy, I honestly haven't seen enough of him to really be a good judge on him as a player. I'm just happy we have more options.

Anyway, Salazar, being a Queenslander, I think it's time you came and hung out with some real Manchester supporters next week. We're having a early breakfast at the Pig N Whistle in Brisbane CBD on July 17 for the pre-season friendly against Club America. It's an official supporters club gathering and we have about 80 members. Might be good for you to hang around true Manc supporters for a change, who's introduction to their club WASN'T via the discovery of cheap merchandise in a supermarket clearance bin. ; )

Big fan of that banter. I'm a Chelsea man myself - though I like to think I'm pretty fair when it comes to our... 'issues' on and off the pitch.

He's an ok player - and for 7 million you could do a lot worse. He seems like a consummate professional and a nice guy though so I do wish him well - I just wouldn't get excited over it.

 

[Smeghead]

Wow that is ridiculous. So why is it that Juve took the hit for this more than the Milan sides? At the time I remember AC had basically been found guilty of the same thing as Juve but got a really minor punishment in comparison. Is there some kind of establishment bias towards the Milan clubs? Aren't Juve an absolutely huge club in Italy too?

I really hope Juve get Aguero and come back to the top now. Used to love their team of the early 00's...I love watching Aguero so if he goes to Juve I may buy a Juve jersey with his name on it =)

Here's a good article by the same guy, basically over viewing Calciopoli and why Juve were wronged.

In a series of consistent courtroom releases, Luciano Moggi’s defence team unravelled not tens, not hundreds, but thousands upon thousands of calls between the referee designators and the directors and/or coaches of every team in Serie A and beyond, including Inter. All during the same “incriminated” period that saw Juventus punished. The code of conduct in 2006 did not oppose dialogue between designators and directors; in fact the league officials encouraged it in order to maintain good relations between teams and the AIA (Italian Referee Association).

The calls themselves, as a result, were not always incriminating but their mere existence meant that the theory of Juventus’ “exclusivity” could no longer hold. Up until that point nothing directly incriminating had ever been heard by any director. The new calls that Moggi’s lawyers released, however, were full of other directors making referee requests, direct referee contact, proposals for secret meetings between referees and directors in closed restaurants and banks, and so on.

They wanted someone to pin it all on and Juve were the perfect fit. The most successful club in Serie A obviously has to be cheating otherwise they would have never won the titles in that time.

It should have been sorted out in the summer of '06 but of course the World Cup was on and the FIGC president didn't want to detract from that.

 

[Salazar]

Might be good for you to hang around true Manc supporters for a change, who's introduction to their club WASN'T via the discovery of cheap merchandise in a supermarket clearance bin. ; )

I can experience trolling like this in person ?

Sounds alright. I probably need to hit the uni library at some point, so a trip to Brisbane is in the offing.

 

[Vivalaraza]

Here's a good article by the same guy, basically over viewing Calciopoli and why Juve were wronged.



They wanted someone to pin it all on and Juve were the perfect fit. The most successful club in Serie A obviously has to be cheating otherwise they would have never won the titles in that time.

It should have been sorted out in the summer of '06 but of course the World Cup was on and the FIGC president didn't want to detract from that.

I don't quite understand this case. It's so bizarre. All of the clubs in Italy were in contact with the Referee Association and having secret meetings...but there was never any match fixing?

 

[omgkitty]

Wow that is ridiculous. So why is it that Juve took the hit for this more than the Milan sides? At the time I remember AC had basically been found guilty of the same thing as Juve but got a really minor punishment in comparison. Is there some kind of establishment bias towards the Milan clubs? Aren't Juve an absolutely huge club in Italy too?

I think it really helps when your owner is a major politician, much less the president of the country, and also a lying, cheating piece of shit. I can't stand the Milan clubs as you can probably tell. A friend of mine is a fan of AC Milan and sometimes I just want to punch him in the face. Whenever I bring up cheating and scandals, he claims is doesn't matter because that was the year before he became a fan.

 

[Kermit The Dog]

Big fan of that banter. I'm a Chelsea man myself - though I like to think I'm pretty fair when it comes to our... 'issues' on and off the pitch.

He's an ok player - and for 7 million you could do a lot worse. He seems like a consummate professional and a nice guy though so I do wish him well - I just wouldn't get excited over it.

Ah, a Chelsea man. To be honest I think Chelsea is our biggest threat this year. Your new manager is going to inject some serious cajones into the Chelsea mindset and there will be no mid-season falter like there was last season. A battle between Blue is my prediction.

I can experience trolling like this in person ?

Sounds alright. I probably need to hit the uni library at some point, so a trip to Brisbane is in the offing.

Good stuff. Let me know. The Community Shield is going to be a big one, and there's always a group of United stragglers hanging around. They cop a belting but it's all in good fun of course.

 

[rvy]

I think it really helps when your owner is a major politician, much less the president of the country, and also a lying, cheating piece of shit. I can't stand the Milan clubs as you can probably tell. A friend of mine is a fan of AC Milan and sometimes I just want to punch him in the face. Whenever I bring up cheating and scandals, he claims is doesn't matter because that was the year before he became a fan.

Your friend is 13, correct?

 

[Ushojax]

I don't quite understand this case. It's so bizarre. All of the clubs in Italy were in contact with the Referee Association and having secret meetings...but there was never any match fixing?

 

[omgkitty]

Your friend is 13, correct?

I wish...he's 21. I still love to talk crap about Arsenal beating them in the Champions League a few seasons ago.

 

[Messi]

FFS when will United announce the away kit?

its out july 15th in the usa, so we should get it around then.

 

[Moobabe]

Ah, a Chelsea man. To be honest I think Chelsea is our biggest threat this year. Your new manager is going to inject some serious cajones into the Chelsea mindset and there will be no mid-season falter like there was last season. A battle between Blue is my prediction.

I'll be interested to see who AVB is interested in bringing in and shipping out.

For me; Anelka, Malouda, Mikel and Ferreira are surplus to requirements. Drogba is up in the air - if he stays and performs, then fine - if not sell him and make a bit of money.

I'd like to see us bring in a wide player or two - in the mould of Mata, another center-forward if Drogba does leave - Lukaku or Falcao - and a creative midfielder in Nasri or Modric. We're not a million miles away from being THE top side in the country and, outside of that mid season faltering, we'd have run away with the league last year.

 

[MPW]

lol marcelo is gonna be pissed

he'll be on the bench now with coentrao starting

I like bizarre ! They still owe us money, as far as I'm concerned. Ángelito was a bargain.

bargain? ozil was a bargain

you got 25m for di maria

 

[Messi]

I love when I come home to a suprise package:

I was at the store today and picked these up for 15 euro each. awesome. got anelka on the back of the green and malouda on the black one.

 

[Blackhead]

I love when I come home to a suprise package:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1WR_RVGOE...Hipq5ss/s1600/Barcelona+new+jersey+2012+3.jpg

I was at the store today and picked these up for 15 euro each. awesome. got anelka on the back of the green and malouda on the black one.

http://www.jerseypro.co.uk/images/chelsea-2010-third1.jpg

http://www.chelseajersey.co.uk/images/chelsea_away_1.gif

15 euro? I wish i had your connections.

 

[Noirulus]

Yay, we got Coentrao! I've watched him through the world cup and in a bunch of international games. He's really good, but I don't know if he can replace Marcelo.

Marcelo was in amazing form in the second half of the season, but he has been a liability on defense.. I want to see how Coentrao will improve the squad

 

[Messi]

15 euro? I wish i had your connections.

I tend to frequent sports shops around here looking for good deals. these two were clearance (only 2 of each left) from the end of the season to they were dirt cheap. you find amazing deals sometimes if you keep looking.

also found madrid's home and away for 25 euro but I think that is a bit much to pay for toiletpaper . Man city's home for 25 also, but that was only small and medium I think.

sometimes this obsession is a curse, other times I enjoy looking for kits.

 

[elsk]

Yay, we got Coentrao! I've watched him through the world cup and in a bunch of international games. He's really good, but I don't know if he can replace Marcelo.

Marcelo was in amazing form in the second half of the season, but he has been a liability on defense.. I want to see how Coentrao will improve the squad

He is just as bad as Marcelo in defence, don't get your hopes up.

 

[WrikaWrek]

Coentrao is better than Marcelo.

 

[omgkitty]

I haven't bought a jersey in almost a year. I almost bought an Arsenal away kit with Nasri on the back, but I have been burned before (Henry jersey in '07, and Nakamura jersey in '09) so I am not taking any chances with Nasri possibly leaving. Same reason I refuse to buy another Fabregas jersey at this point as Barcelona's constant flirtation with an unneeded player to add to their midfield of world class players where he is going to sit on the bench. Wish they would just go ahead and sign Sanchez to prove they won't have any more money and leave Cesc alone for at least another season.

 

[Messi]

I haven't bought a jersey in almost a year. I almost bought an Arsenal away kit with Nasri on the back, but I have been burned before (Henry jersey in '07, and Nakamura jersey in '09) so I am not taking any chances with Nasri possibly leaving. Same reason I refuse to buy another Fabregas jersey at this point as Barcelona's constant flirtation with an unneeded player to add to their midfield of world class players where he is going to sit on the bench. Wish they would just go ahead and sign Sanchez to prove they won't have any more money and leave Cesc alone for at least another season.

I get the feeling barca are going to end up with both this season.

my barca away 2012 kit is blank until cesc or sanchez signs.

 

[omgkitty]

Okay WTF Eboue? Dude is seriously just strange.

 

[elsk]

Coentrao is better than Marcelo.

Based on what? Marcelo plays against top teams, and spanish teams. Coentrao just plays against portugal teams, where the only near-top one was Porto, and they pretty much rapped Benfica.

Sure, Coentrao looks good in a league like the Portuguese, but against real competition and better players he isn't going to look that good.

 

[MPW]

He is just as bad as Marcelo in defence, don't get your hopes up.

mourinho will improve him just like he did with marcelo

if not, we still go marcelo!

this is also a good signing for depth

if marcelo or di maria gets injured, he can fill in

 

[Hixx]

Okay WTF Eboue? Dude is seriously just strange.

It's a heart rate monitor or something. He's not wearing a sports bra for shits and giggles

 

[Rad-]

Is Coentrao just as lazy to track back as Marcelo is? It made me laugh when the opposition had a counter attack and Marcelo just casually jogged back to defence haha. Happened way too many times too and in few cases resulted in goals.

 

[Moobabe]

mourinho will improve him just like he did with marcelo

if not, we still go marcelo!

this is also a good signing for depth

if marcelo or di maria gets injured, he can fill in

30 million euros for "depth"?

 

[WrikaWrek]

Based on what? Marcelo plays against top teams, and spanish teams. Coentrao just plays against portugal teams, where the only near-top one was Porto, and they pretty much rapped Benfica.

Sure, Coentrao looks good in a league like the Portuguese, but against real competition and better players he isn't going to look that good.

You'll see.

Is Coentrao just as lazy to track back as Marcelo is? It made me laugh when the opposition had a counter attack and Marcelo just casually jogged back to defence haha. Happened way too many times too and in few cases resulted in goals.

No.

 

[omgkitty]

I get the feeling barca are going to end up with both this season.

I don't know why. It's clear that besides depth, Fab isn't needed in Barcelona. I think all Arsenal fans know he's eventually going to leave, but there really is no reason for it at this point, especially considering Barca absolutely refuse to meet on the valuation. It's understandable they don't want to pay a lot for him, and I am quite surprised Pique and Xavi haven't tried a kidnapping attempt by now, but I would say they should honestly just leave him alone till they are ready to pay what we wan't for him, cause we aren't going to let him leave. Fabregas has proven he isn't the type of player to make a big fuss or play below his talent, so he understands he will do what he has to and he is loyal. I just wish Barca would either pay or let it go cause I am sick of reading about it.

 

[Messi]

I don't know why. It's clear that besides depth, Fab isn't needed in Barcelona. I think all Arsenal fans know he's eventually going to leave, but there really is no reason for it at this point, especially considering Barca absolutely refuse to meet on the valuation. It's understandable they don't want to pay a lot for him, and I am quite surprised Pique and Xavi haven't tried a kidnapping attempt by now, but I would say they should honestly just leave him alone till they are ready to pay what we wan't for him, cause we aren't going to let him leave. Fabregas has proven he isn't the type of player to make a big fuss or play below his talent, so he understands he will do what he has to and he is loyal. I just wish Barca would either pay or let it go cause I am sick of reading about it.

Can I keep this for when it happens?

 

[feel]

Sure, Coentrao looks good in a league like the Portuguese, but against real competition and better players he isn't going to look that good.

Ugh... same could've been said about tevez, ronaldinho, cr7, henry, di maria, shevchenko, carvalho, etc, etc, etc right before they moved to top leagues.

 

[omgkitty]

Can I keep this for when it happens?

Well I guess I worded that wrong. We aren't going to let him leave until Barca pays what we find acceptable. We have proven by saying that if they meet what we wan't he can leave. I mean, when you look at what other people are paying for some players, and Fabregas is without a doubt one of the top 5 midfielders in the world right now, you have to know he is worth more than what Barca are offering. I am just not sure that will happen this summer, and with Nasri's future up in the air, we could be screwed. Wenger is a very good negotiator when it comes to keeping players, so if he wants them to stay, he usually gets his way.

 

[Ashes]

It's a heart rate monitor or something. He's not wearing a sports bra for shits and giggles

I think its those stats measuring vests... running distances, movement, etc...

 

[Shake Appeal]

Ex-refereeing designator Paolo Bergamo insists nobody should be surprised by Inter’s wiretapped phone calls. “I always said I spoke to everyone.”

The Calciopoli scandal has been dragged up again by the latest FIGC report ruling that Nerazzurri chief Giacinto Facchetti had also regularly called the designators.

“There is absolutely nothing new for me in these revelations,” Bergamo told Calciomercato.it.

“From the very first day of the investigation in 2006 I always said that I spoke to everyone. Pierluigi Pairetto and I had a rapport with representatives of all the clubs.

...

“I also always said phone calls with Inter were more frequent than other clubs because they were not very successful at the time. They didn’t get results and complained about the refereeing.

Aheee. ^___^

 

[omgkitty]

I think its those stats measuring vests... running distances, movement, etc...

Yeah I was talking more about the sports bra he is wearing. It's up there with his crazy stretching routine on the bench before he came on during one of the games. They have been using those monitors on our players for a while to cut down on injuries.

 

[rvy]

Based on what? Marcelo plays against top teams, and spanish teams. Coentrao just plays against portugal teams, where the only near-top one was Porto, and they pretty much rapped Benfica.

Sure, Coentrao looks good in a league like the Portuguese, but against real competition and better players he isn't going to look that good.

Oh, please... they said the same thing about Di Maria.

bargain? ozil was a bargain

you got 25m for di maria

So? Di Maria's contract was renewed until 2015 and his buyout clause was €40 million. I'm missing €15 million.

 

[omgkitty]

Oh, please... they said the same thing about Di Maria.

This is completely true. There was a lot of people laughing at Madrid because they though Madrid paid too much for Di Maria and that he wasn't that good, but he turned out being one of the better players in the squad last season.

 

[Rad-]

This is completely true. There was a lot of people laughing at Madrid because they though Madrid paid too much for Di Maria and that he wasn't that good, but he turned out being one of the better players in the squad last season.

Di Maria was ok for Madrid but no way has he been 25 million worthy yet. Way, way too inconsistent.

 

[Noirulus]

Di Maria played even better than Ozil for a small stretch of the season. Definitely a good signing, though he makes plenty of dumb mistakes (El Clasico's come to mind..)

 

[omgkitty]

Di Maria played even better than Ozil for a small stretch of the season. Definitely a good signing, though he makes plenty of dumb mistakes (El Clasico's come to mind..)

When talking about Clasico's, I think you could mention most of the squad with those error's.

 

[Ashes]

Yeah I was talking more about the sports bra he is wearing. It's up there with his crazy stretching routine on the bench before he came on during one of the games. They have been using those monitors on our players for a while to cut down on injuries.

hmm... think its part of it...

http://gpsports.com/gpsports_website/

edit: I should have added: but I get what you mean though...

 

[elsk]

Ugh... same could've been said about tevez, ronaldinho, cr7, henry, di maria, shevchenko, carvalho, etc, etc, etc right before they moved to top leagues.

I know he most likely will be good in attack, but here I'm talking about defence. If he had a hard time defending in portuguese league, lets see how he will do in CL or against Barcelona.