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[Yurt]

because when someone says something bad about inter it is trustworthy, while what people said that was bad about juve is obviously false.

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In that season he played 12 games, scored 2 goals, made 6 assists and got 4 man of the match awards.

He never came close to that, But to be fair to him, our coach was terrible, he played well in the first half of the season but was really poor along with our whole team in the second half lol. He did score 2 wonder goals and assisted 5 or 6 too but in 33 games.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df682U1J5lI&feature=related

His fitness definitely improved, at worst he'll be a great bench player for you guys.

edit lol there you go, me and Charles feel exactly the same it seems.

 

[Mastadon]

SSN reporting that Liverpool have made a £15m bid for Downing

 

[Lightning]

if Nasri goes too, how exactly is wenger going to convince fabregas to stay for another season? with this sudden bail out of players, Fabregas would push even more for a transfer to Barcelona.

Seems to me that Wenger loves buying players for cheap, then selling them for huge money. Looks like that gives him more satisfaction than winning a title.

Wenger can be very convincing and I am hoping that Wenger can convince Fabregas to give us 1 more season.

 

[ATF487]

SSN reporting that Liverpool have made a £15m bid for Downing

Wooo bout time, let's see what that number ends at.

 

[elty]

Is this posted yet? New England away goalie kit:

http://englandstore.thefa.com/stores/fa/products/kit_selector.aspx?selector=165

 

[Feorax]

SSN reporting that Liverpool have made a £15m bid for Downing

The Times reporting the bid is rejected and they want £20m, but McLeish is interested in Ngog, so that could be part of the deal.

 

[Joel Was Right]

Can you say most cynical post of the day? While I agree that Arsenal have some problems right now, I think you have gone a little overboard. van Persie has a huge amount of faith in Arsenal and Wenger, and I believe he will sign a new contract.

Wenger isn't a deity, he can't click his fingers and make everything right if those who believe in him pray hard enough. The team have failed to win anything and have failed to develop in the last 5-6 years - the moment Abramovich purchased Chelsea and began writing cheques, Arsenal's position was under threat and since then along with Manchester United, they established themselves as the strongest club side in England. This before a certain Sheikh took City under his gold feathered wings.

Robin will be 28 in exactly a month, and he has two years remaining on his contract at a club losing its best players at a time investment in the team, even with those players, was a necessity to challenge Utd, Chelsea and now City. Remove those players and you have the weakest Arsenal side in a decade. What on God's green Earth could possess the man to sign a new contract at a club that is set for a rebuilding project at a the peak of his career? He can't wait another year much less two to watch an experiment - he's at an age now where he wants to be playing in Finals and winning them.

Faith in Wenger saw Henry stay for another year, along with a ridiculous extended contract, but not even the money could keep his faith. He left and won 7 trophies, including the Champions League, with Barca in the two seasons he was there. I am a huge fan of Robin and whilst I do not want him to leave the club, it would be an injustice if his talent was unrewarded. At this point in time, the fans cannot feel hard done by any of these players leaving or considering it. If Wenger fails to replace the ones leaving and in also add to them with a few more players, I would want to leave even if I was an Arsenal fan. Bookmark this post, Robin - as it is now - will not sign a new contract. Whilst some like to think players have betrayed the club, van Persie would have every right to feel the club betrayed him by letting all these players leave

I agree with the competition for Song, and a new creative midfielder, but needing 2 new LB's is unnecessary. If anything, a backup at RB is is needed. Gibbs can play, and while I think it won't be this year, in the next two or 3 seasons he will be ready.

Gibbs is made of glass, who will play at LB when he gets injured? A youth player? Gibbs is a good enough cover, but it's ridiculous to go into the season without cover for the cover-man himself.

Scz has proven he is a future world class GK, and Fabianski has proven his worth last season

I do like what I've seen from Sczhenesy, but a few bad games and he's status is gone. Fabianski is unreliable along with Almunia. We need not risk anymore untested and unproven goalkeepers. We need a commanding experienced one, there's no debate there.

I do believe we are coming up on an exodus in the next 3 years as far as players, the board and even coaching go, but I think the amount of talent coming up through the youth system is better than ever. With players life Ramsey, Afobe, JET, Lansbury, Frimpong, Aneke and Miquel, you have some future stars in there.

I'm not interested in the future - I'm interested in next season and the one that follows that. We don't have the luxury to talk about the potential of teenagers in the Reserve Team. Bentley, Alliadire, Larsson and Muamba were all names mentioned in the same breath several ears ago.

 

[MPW]

The Times reporting the bid is rejected and they want £20m, but McLeish is interested in Ngog, so that could be part of the deal.

lol why? he sucks

 

[Mastadon]

The Times reporting the bid is rejected and they want £20m, but McLeish is interested in Ngog, so that could be part of the deal.

Wow instant rejection. Not surprised really, Downing outshone Young last year so £20m is about right I guess. If we could get him for £15m + Ngog it'd be a good bit of business.

 

[Joel Was Right]

Wenger can be very convincing and I am hoping that Wenger can convince Fabregas to give us 1 more season.

It doesnt really matter whether he leaves tonight or next season, or the one after that. Eventually he will go back home. The pressing issue is finding a like-for-like replacement for the lad.

 

[LabouredSubterfuge]

Wow instant rejection. Not surprised really, Downing outshone Young last year so £20m is about right I guess. If we could get him for £15m + Ngog it'd be a good bit of business.

Ugh, the pre-emptive revisionism is painful.

 

[rodvik]

SSN reporting that Liverpool have made a £15m bid for Downing

Not bad but probably needs to go up. The guy has a couple of years left on contract and we paid $10M for him. I expect Aston Villa to say "no" or ask for a bunch of add ons. And no we dont want Joe Cole in part exchange, thanks

Edit: I guess we did say 'No" That was quick. I am liking our new managers style when it comes to this

 

[Arnie]

The Times reporting the bid is rejected and they want £20m, but McLeish is interested in Ngog, so that could be part of the deal.

£20 million is just too much for Downing, as much as I rate him. £15 is about right, he's a quality winger and that's exactly what we need, someone to hug the touchline and whip balls into Carroll. He's not afraid to take a punt at goal either which is something I appreciate in a winger.

 

[ATF487]

Not bad but probably needs to go up. The guy has a couple of years left on contract and we paid $10M for him. I expect Aston Villa to say "no" or ask for a bunch of add ons. And no we dont want Joe Cole in part exchange, thanks

Edit: I guess we did say 'No" That was quick. I am liking our new managers style when it comes to this

Buy N'Gog, get Jovanovic and Cole for free!

It's an all Liverpool sales event, everyone must go!

 

[Lightning]

It doesnt really matter whether he leaves tonight or next season, or the one after that. Eventually he will go back home. The pressing issue is finding a like-for-like replacement for the lad.

Which is growing increasingly unlikely and Cesc's departure is going to have a VERY negative effect on the remaining Arsenal players. There is no disputing that. Cesc needs to leave on a high otherwise his loss is going to demoralize the rest of the squad. If the moral of our players or supporters gets any lower we may very well hit negative numbers....

There is almost no chance whatsoever what Wenger will be able to replace Fabregas this summer. He will likely buy a player, sure, but there will be a huge talent gap and Arsenal will suffer accordingly next season should this occur.

 

[Feorax]

Buy N'Gog, get Jovanovic and Cole for free!

It's an all Liverpool sales event, everyone must go!

*terms, conditions and wages apply.

 

[rodvik]

£20 million is just too much for Downing, as much as I rate him. £15 is about right, he's a quality winger and that's exactly what we need, someone to hug the touchline and whip balls into Carroll. He's not afraid to take a punt at goal either which is something I appreciate in a winger.

Oh he is exactly what you need in that case, and we have depth there to replace him. Seems like a shame you cant afford him, or maybe you could submit a new higher offer.....

 

[Arnie]

Ugh, the pre-emptive revisionism is painful.

Your blinding Man United bias is too, painful. It's common knowledge that Downing out performed Young last year, his comment was perfectly truthful.

The Guardian article posted half an hour ago on this very subject seems to reiterate that too:

Villa received £16m from United for Young, who had 12 months remaining on his contract and whose form was eclipsed last season by Downing, their player of the year. It is therefore no surprise that Liverpool's opening gambit failed, although Fenway Sports Group, the club's owner, is expected to return with an improved offer for a player that the manager, Kenny Dalglish, has made a transfer priority.

Are they pre-emptively revising their thoughts on the two players now one of them has joined United?

Nope.

 

[rodvik]

Buy N'Gog, get Jovanovic and Cole for free!

It's an all Liverpool sales event, everyone must go!

Hehe Probably too expensive though. Our board have been open that their plan is now to grow our own youth players and bring in the occasional superstar but in general just build our youth next season. I doubt we have much appetite for middle weight transfers with big wages.

 

[Vivalaraza]

I thought N'Gog was going to Sunderland as part of the Henderson deal?

I guess Villa will sell at 20m for Downing. Quite high a price IMO but that's what it'll take if Liverpool want him. Downing's a good player though, don't think he is great but Liverpool have zero width right now so would be a new dimension in their squad.

 

[Mastadon]

Ugh, the pre-emptive revisionism is painful.

What are you talking about? Downing had a better season than Young, hence why Villa fans voted him player of the year. He also has more time left on his contract than Young had, so it makes sense that he'd be valued at £20m.

 

[Arnie]

I thought N'Gog was going to Sunderland as part of the Henderson deal?

I guess Villa will sell at 20m for Downing. Quite high a price IMO but that's what it'll take if Liverpool want him. Downing's a good player though, don't think he is great but Liverpool have zero width right now so would be a new dimension in their squad.

Players are elevated and restrained by those around them, while I agree Downing is a good winger he has all the capabilities to become a great one in the right team and with the right coaching. Look at Valencia for the best example, I think your exact comment could've been levelled against him whilst he was at Wigan, and I'll be the first to admit he's been fantastic since arriving at United.

There are some transfers that I look at and think, "Is this necessary? Is he good enough?"(see: Henderson) but this really isn't one of them. Put the money aside I want Downing in our team.

 

[Feorax]

Downing would be a very good buy for us, adding some width weve been sorely lacking.

Im hoping this is a jumpstart to us getting some transfers sorted (im looking at you Adam).

 

[Hixx]

I thought N'Gog was going to Sunderland as part of the Henderson deal?

I guess Villa will sell at 20m for Downing. Quite high a price IMO but that's what it'll take if Liverpool want him. Downing's a good player though, don't think he is great but Liverpool have zero width right now so would be a new dimension in their squad.

We laughed at the wages he was on.

And this is a club that pays George McCartney £40k a week.

 

[Vivalaraza]

Players are elevated and restrained by those around them, while I agree Downing is a good winger he has all the capabilities to become a great one in the right team and with the right coaching. Look at Valencia for the best example, I think your exact comment could've been levelled against him whilst he was at Wigan, and I'll be the first to admit he's been fantastic since arriving at United.

There are some transfers that I look at and think, "Is this necessary? Is he good enough?"(see: Henderson) but this really isn't one of them. Put the money aside I want Downing in our team.

Yep that is true. Downing go certainly go onto another level playing in a better team. I had similar concerns with Valencia who has been great for us.

Ive been told by a couple of Liverpool fans you guys will look to play 4-3-3 more next season? Just speculation or is that an approach Daglish/Clarke were adopting towards the end of last season? Difficult to say at this stage bit what do you envisage Liverpools first eleven could on the first day of the new season?

 

[omgkitty]

Gibbs is made of glass, who will play at LB when he gets injured? A youth player? Gibbs is a good enough cover, but it's ridiculous to go into the season without cover for the cover-man himself.

I guess I forgot to put in that we would obviously sign another LB, which is why I was saying he is going to be good in the next few seasons. Once you get injured once, sometimes it's hard to get back on the horse without falling off a couple of times. We have to keep him healthy which will hopefully lead to consistency.

I do like what I've seen from Szczęsny, but a few bad games and he's status is gone. Fabianski is unreliable along with Almunia. We need not risk anymore untested and unproven goalkeepers. We need a commanding experienced one, there's no debate there.

TBH I really agree with you here, the only problem is that by not playing Szczęsny, it would be a waste. I think for the next season or two that we need an established GK, but Wenger is simply not going to do it. It would be too detrimental to Szczęsny, and chances are he would probably leave. He's shown before how bad he wants to start, and unless there is a guaranteed top league club who want to take him on loan and start him, I think it's better to take our chances and sign a GK in January if necessary.

I'm not interested in the future - I'm interested in next season and the one that follows that. We don't have the luxury to talk about the potential of teenagers in the Reserve Team. Bentley, Alliadire, Larsson and Muamba were all names mentioned in the same breath several ears ago.

While I see what you're going for, I think there are 2 or 3 guys that I listed (Lansbury, Frimpong) who are ready to play now. Maybe I am just being a little too much of an Arsenal fan here, but I think they are going to play a significant role next season, and be good backup players.

I think the biggest issue right now for any Arsenal fan is that none of this matters. No matter how much we talk and speculate, it won't mean shit till September 1st when we know for certain what we have. Right now you're taking the armageddon end of the world view. I honestly believe we can lose Cesc or Nasri and still be okay, as long as they are replaced. If they both leave, I am not so sure about that, but I have to trust we would sign replacements. I think in the next few days we will start to get some real light on just what's going to happen with those two. If Cesc stays, I believe that Wilshere and/or Ramsey both could slot into his position in the future. They are at the right age, and while they will probably never be Cesc quality (let's face it, he's one in a million) they can be good. I think our real issue is that left wing, especially if Nasri leaves. Arshavin has proven he isn't consistent enough to start there, and he will most likely be gone next season regardless. I think some of the rumors regarding left midfielders for us (Hazard, Mata) is a good sign. We never did replace Pires, and I think now is the time. But don't go all crazy just yet. If come September and things happen the way you believe they will, then I will pick up my pitchfork and join the hordes, but right now, I still have faith.

 

[Jeff Albertson]

I'd rather have NZogbia than Downing anyday.

In the transfer of the season Rovers looks like signing........Cedric Mongongu.

At least he has a cool name.

 

[Blackhead]

Scz has proven he is a future world class GK, and Fabianski has proven his worth last season. I do believe we are coming up on an exodus in the next 3 years as far as players, the board and even coaching go, but I think the amount of talent coming up through the youth system is better than ever. With players life Ramsey, Afobe, JET, Lansbury, Frimpong, Aneke and Miquel, you have some future stars in there.

TBH I really agree with you here, the only problem is that by not playing Szczęsny, it would be a waste. I think for the next season or two that we need an established GK, but Wenger is simply not going to do it. It would be too detrimental to Szczęsny, and chances are he would probably leave. He's shown before how bad he wants to start, and unless there is a guaranteed top league club who want to take him on loan and start him, I think it's better to take our chances and sign a GK in January if necessary.

congrats, you just encapsulated everything that's wrong with arsenal

 

[Messi]

Oh I am really fucking angry right now.

The muppet in the store where I bought the green chelsea kit, printed anelka in white print, not black and the spacing is all off, the numbers are also at the small of my back. the jersey is pretty much ruined. I asked her what i am supposed to do with it, i wont wear it with fucked up print and the wrong colour. she said there is nothing they can do.

so now I need gaf's help, I want to avoid having to talk to those clowns again. Is there any way to remove this godawful print from the jersey, id rather it have none that have that crap on it. maybe if I heat up the print again it might come off?

sorry for ranting, but I am fuming. I would not be so bad if I didnt collect kits.

 

[omgkitty]

congrats, you just encapsulated everything that's wrong with arsenal

There is nothing wrong with this. Just because Arsenal doesn't go out and spend money every time anything goes wrong doesn't make us bad.

 

[MPW]

Oh I am really fucking angry right now.

The muppet in the store where I bought the green chelsea kit, printed anelka in white print, not black and the spacing is all off, the numbers are also at the small of my back. the jersey is pretty much ruined. I asked her what i am supposed to do with it, i wont wear it with fucked up print and the wrong colour. she said there is nothing they can do.

so now I need gaf's help, I want to avoid having to talk to those clowns again. Is there any way to remove this godawful print from the jersey, id rather it have none that have that crap on it. maybe if I heat up the print again it might come off?

sorry for ranting, but I am fuming. I would not be so bad if I didnt collect kits.

donate it to a charity, make some kid happy

 

[Arnie]

Yep that is true. Downing go certainly go onto another level playing in a better team. I had similar concerns with Valencia who has been great for us.

Ive been told by a couple of Liverpool fans you guys will look to play 4-3-3 more next season? Just speculation or is that an approach Daglish/Clarke were adopting towards the end of last season? Difficult to say at this stage bit what do you envisage Liverpools first eleven could on the first day of the new season?

First and foremost since Dalglish and Clarke came in our formation has been very dynamic and fluid, and that was reflected in the tactics our players have been instructed with. Players like Raul and Maxi have flourished because they've been given the freedom to roam in and around the striker, who's more often than not been Kuyt or Suarez (or both).

If we do buy Downing then I expect us to use him when Carroll is on the field as an out and out winger in perhaps a 4-4-2. Downing's biggest strength is getting down the wing and sticking in a good cross, so this, I imagine, is why we are after him. One problem we've had when Carroll played last season is our team isn't equipped to give him the kind of service he'd been getting at Newcastle (from the likes of Barton). This deficit looks to be informing our targets so far in Downing and Adam, two players lauded for their accurate delivery, both in their own unique ways.

If we do end up buying Downing and Adam then I envisage them being played when the team is setup with Carroll at the helm, probably in a 4-4-2 with Suarez loitering around him. If Carroll is not selected then I expect the team to move into more of a 4-3-3 system with Suarez, Kuyt and Gerrard/Maxi, and Raul, Lucas and Henderson coming from deep. The key focus from us it seems is to buy players who supplement very defined styles so we have a range of options at our disposal. That penchant to be unpredictable is one that Dalglish and Clarke both seem to enjoy, judging from our usage of the 3-5-2 against Stoke and Chelsea to good effect.

I'm just personally excited to see us buying with what seems like a very considered plan. Say what you want about buying English talent, but it's something we obviously see as important and for a host of reasons. It just gets me excited because, from what I can perceive despite not being alive last time Dalglish managed us, when he executes a plan it's more often than not (sorry Newcastle fans) a success. For a quick and dirty example of that just look at what he did with 6 months last season, a feat many said and trollingly predicted was out of his grasp.

 

[Messi]

donate it to a charity, make some kid happy

Oh I still want the kit, this will be fixed or they will pay :/

 

[Vivalaraza]

There is nothing wrong with this. Just because Arsenal doesn't go out and spend money every time anything goes wrong doesn't make us bad.

Nothing wrong with not spending money.

Everything wrong with believing Scezenennznency has proven himself to be of a world class level. He's played about half a seasons worth of football. That cannot be right. He is a good keeper and has potential and bringing in somebody else could disrupt him...but is he good enough for now? Like you said it's a risk and Arsenal took alot of those recently and won nothing.

Time for a change of plan.

 

[elsk]

Interesting story:

Liverpool and Everton reject Dale Jennings set to complete £1.7m move to Bayern Munich

In the next 48 hours, Bayern Munich expect to complete the unlikeliest transfer of the summer: a £1.7 million deal that started with Germany’s biggest club scouting Leighton Baines, taking in a recommendation from a European Cup winner and resulted in Dale Jennings, rejected by both Liverpool and Everton, moving from Tranmere in League One to the Champions League.

 

[Yurt]

Oh I am really fucking angry right now.

The muppet in the store where I bought the green chelsea kit, printed anelka in white print, not black and the spacing is all off, the numbers are also at the small of my back. the jersey is pretty much ruined. I asked her what i am supposed to do with it, i wont wear it with fucked up print and the wrong colour. she said there is nothing they can do.

so now I need gaf's help, I want to avoid having to talk to those clowns again. Is there any way to remove this godawful print from the jersey, id rather it have none that have that crap on it. maybe if I heat up the print again it might come off?

sorry for ranting, but I am fuming. I would not be so bad if I didnt collect kits.

They gave you something you didn't ask for, I'd say you're being too nice about it lol

 

[caramac]

£15m bid rejected?
Maybe they are trying to claw back the £7.5m they paid us for Collymore.

 

[Lightning]

I guess I forgot to put in that we would obviously sign another LB, which is why I was saying he is going to be good in the next few seasons. Once you get injured once, sometimes it's hard to get back on the horse without falling off a couple of times. We have to keep him healthy which will hopefully lead to consistency.




TBH I really agree with you here, the only problem is that by not playing Szczęsny, it would be a waste. I think for the next season or two that we need an established GK, but Wenger is simply not going to do it. It would be too detrimental to Szczęsny, and chances are he would probably leave. He's shown before how bad he wants to start, and unless there is a guaranteed top league club who want to take him on loan and start him, I think it's better to take our chances and sign a GK in January if necessary.



While I see what you're going for, I think there are 2 or 3 guys that I listed (Lansbury, Frimpong) who are ready to play now. Maybe I am just being a little too much of an Arsenal fan here, but I think they are going to play a significant role next season, and be good backup players.

I think the biggest issue right now for any Arsenal fan is that none of this matters. No matter how much we talk and speculate, it won't mean shit till September 1st when we know for certain what we have. Right now you're taking the armageddon end of the world view. I honestly believe we can lose Cesc or Nasri and still be okay, as long as they are replaced. If they both leave, I am not so sure about that, but I have to trust we would sign replacements. I think in the next few days we will start to get some real light on just what's going to happen with those two. If Cesc stays, I believe that Wilshere and/or Ramsey both could slot into his position in the future. They are at the right age, and while they will probably never be Cesc quality (let's face it, he's one in a million) they can be good. I think our real issue is that left wing, especially if Nasri leaves. Arshavin has proven he isn't consistent enough to start there, and he will most likely be gone next season regardless. I think some of the rumors regarding left midfielders for us (Hazard, Mata) is a good sign. We never did replace Pires, and I think now is the time. But don't go all crazy just yet. If come September and things happen the way you believe they will, then I will pick up my pitchfork and join the hordes, but right now, I still have faith.

Nice post.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...mir-Nasri-set-19m-Manchester-City-switch.html


Nasri leaving looks more and more likely as the days go on. Using the money to buy Mata sounds like a fantastic idea to me.

Nothing wrong with not spending money.

Everything wrong with believing Scezenennznency has proven himself to be of a world class level. He's played about half a seasons worth of football. That cannot be right. He is a good keeper and has potential and bringing in somebody else could disrupt him...but is he good enough for now? Like you said it's a risk and Arsenal took alot of those recently and won nothing.

Time for a change of plan.

Defence and midfield are of stronger concerns. I believe our Szczseny would have looked much better had our defenders not hung him out to dry so often last season. While I agree it needs to be looked at, quality defenders and getting rid of dead wood should like priority at the moment.

 

[sohois]

Yep that is true. Downing go certainly go onto another level playing in a better team. I had similar concerns with Valencia who has been great for us.

Ive been told by a couple of Liverpool fans you guys will look to play 4-3-3 more next season? Just speculation or is that an approach Daglish/Clarke were adopting towards the end of last season? Difficult to say at this stage bit what do you envisage Liverpools first eleven could on the first day of the new season?

4-3-3 was generally what we played towards the end of last season, although it was probably more of a 4-4-2/4-3-3 hybrid at times i.e.

-----Reina-----
flanno-skrtel-carra-johnson
----------spearing-----------
--------lucas-meireles------
kuyt------------------suarez
-----------carroll------------
could easily be interpreted as

-----Reina-------
flanno-skrtel-carra-johnson
kuyt-spearing-lucas-meireles
---------carroll-suarez---------

but yeah, it is generally assumed Liverpool will play 4-3-3 next season, though as we have yet to see Gerrard, Suarez & Carroll in the same Liverpool team KK may not opt for such a system and play 4-2-3-1 instead, but i am expecting 4-3-3. Don't expect to see the 5-3-2 which kenny briefly used; that was mostly down to the fact that we had no wingers last season.

 

[Blackhead]

There is nothing wrong with this. Just because Arsenal doesn't go out and spend money every time anything goes wrong doesn't make us bad.

*shrug* if you want to play your youth team in the men's league, that's fine. The problem with Arsenal that you are displaying for all to see is the idea called "proven future world class". There is no such thing. There is, perhaps, potential future world class but Wenger seems to have that confused with the real thing and by the way, just giving games to potential world class players is not all it takes to ensure they develop to be the best..

 

[Wes]

SSN reporting that Liverpool have made a £15m bid for Downing

£18m+ and we'll talk.

£15m bid rejected?
Maybe they are trying to claw back the £7.5m they paid us for Collymore.

We brought him for £12m when he had a broken leg. He was a our best player last year. That doesn't equate to a megre £3m more when he has two years left.

 

[omgkitty]

Nice post.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...mir-Nasri-set-19m-Manchester-City-switch.html


Nasri leaving looks more and more likely as the days go on. Using the money to buy Mata sounds like a fantastic idea to me.

Thanks. That looks like some Daily Mail BS. I couldn't seriously see Wenger letting him go to another PL club. The issue however is that it seems like there are no clubs abroad that are interested. The only possible destination I could see is Italy, and unless Inter let Sneijder leave, they are a no go, and with Juve flirting with Aguero and Milan being relatively quiet it looks like England is the only destination, which is kind of a tragedy.

 

[Seep]

I'd rather have Albrighton than Downing. 20mil lol no.

 

[omgkitty]

*shrug* if you want to play your youth team in the men's league, that's fine. The problem with Arsenal that you are displaying for all to see is the idea called "proven future world class". There is no such thing. There is, perhaps, potential future world class but Wenger seems to have that confused with the real thing and by the way, just giving games to potential world class players is not all it takes to ensure they develop to be the best..

So that's why our current team could beat any team in the world? I am sick of the bullshit of us being a youth team. Who's the only team to beat both Champions League finalists this season? Yeah, that was Arsenal. With Szczęsny in goal. Our issue at this current moment is depth and mental, not talent and age.

 

[rodvik]

I'd rather have Albrighton than Downing. .

Goddamit who the hell told you about Albrighton? Just you stay focused on that nice shiney Downing. 20M and he is all yours, just what you need as well

 

[Lightning]

Thanks. That looks like some Daily Mail BS. I couldn't seriously see Wenger letting him go to another PL club. The issue however is that it seems like there are no clubs abroad that are interested. The only possible destination I could see is Italy, and unless Inter let Sneijder leave, they are a no go, and with Juve flirting with Aguero and Milan being relatively quiet it looks like England is the only destination, which is kind of a tragedy.

Wenger may not have a choice. He's on his last year so either we sell him and get 20mil or Nasri refuses to accept an offer outside of England and we lose him for nothing next season and he ends up joining our rivals anyway. I don't believe that anyone outside England will offer us 20mil anyway so that is a concern as well.


If he doesn't sign he must be sold, whether or not it's to our rivals. We simply cannot allow such an expensive player to leave for nothing and we need the money to bring in players who actually want to be with us.

So that's why our current team could beat any team in the world? I am sick of the bullshit of us being a youth team. Who's the only team to beat both Champions League finalists this season? Yeah, that was Arsenal. With Szczęsny in goal. Our issue at this current moment is depth and mental, not talent and age.

That is what pisses me off. We beat Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea and Barcelona last season to prove that we have a side that can beat anyone on our day. We also played a lot better than some of those results represented, take our matches against Spurs where we were clearly the superior side despite not getting the result.

We have a very good team and that's what makes this unrest among our players annoying and why I was REALLY frustrated at how we fell away last season.

 

[Vivalaraza]

So that's why our current team could beat any team in the world? I am sick of the bullshit of us being a youth team. Who's the only team to beat both Champions League finalists this season? Yeah, that was Arsenal. With Szczęsny in goal. Our issue at this current moment is depth and mental, not talent and age.

No offence mate, you care passionately for your team and all they have achieved, but you are clutching at straws here...Arsenal might not be as far away from glory as some people say, but with the prospect of Cesc and Nasri leaving looming large, they aren't that close either..

 

[Wes]

Goddamit who the hell told you about Albrighton? Just you stay focused on that nice shiney Downing. 20M and he is all yours, just what you need as well

Let's hope they also don't see Clark, Bannan, Delph or Gardner.

 

[Seep]

Goddamit who the hell told you about Albrighton? Just you stay focused on that nice shiney Downing. 20M and he is all yours, just what you need as well

He'll be a cracking player one day. Wouldn't you rather see him here than at the Scum?

 

[rodvik]

Let's hope they also don't see Clark, Bannan, Delph or Gardner.

We just resigned Delph btw. He is young enough, I retain hopes for him next season.