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Football Thread 2011/12 |OT10| Silverware, promotion, survival, relegation and tears

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Clegg

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Interesting..
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Not really.

We know that De Gea has been a bit dodgy with high balls being crossed into the box.

Some of our defending has been atrocious too.

Still, De Geas shot stopping stats are ridiculously good. I've been very happy with his progress this season.
 
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Gareth Bale

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Vivalaraza said:
27 from crosses?

What the hell? How many did we concede all season, can't have been much more than 40. That is a ridiculously high %.

That also shows we missed Vidic's commanding presence in the centre and that DDG has been/is shaky on crosses.
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Yeah, and it's not even % of goals conceded from crosses. You conceded more goals from crosses than Blackburn, Bolton and Wolves did! That's the kind of stat that loses you the league. notthaticare but Vidic and VDS would never have let that happen.
 
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Arnie

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Gareth Bale said:
Yeah, and it's not even % of goals conceded from crosses. You conceded more goals from crosses than Blackburn, Bolton and Wolves did! That's the kind of stat that loses you the league. notthaticare but Vidic and VDS would never have let that happen.
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DOICARE REDEEMED
 
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dc89

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Vivalaraza said:
27 from crosses?

What the hell? How many did we concede all season, can't have been much more than 40. That is a ridiculously high %.

That also shows we missed Vidic's commanding presence in the centre and that DDG has been/is shaky on crosses.
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Well Kompany's goal was a header from a corner and in the previous derby 3 of the goals came from crosses so yeah, I can see this being true!!
 
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Wilbur

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dc89 said:
Well Kompany's goal was a header from a corner and in the previous derby 3 of the goals came from crosses so yeah, I can see this being true!!
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Of course it's bloody true. If we had Vidic all season and Kompany was out for you all season we would have won the league.
 
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Manager

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Clegg said:
Not really.

We know that De Gea has been a bit dodgy with high balls being crossed into the box.

Some of our defending has been atrocious too.

Still, De Geas shot stopping stats are ridiculously good. I've been very happy with his progress this season.
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Still, even if he was dodgy it was weird to see both Chelsea and United so high up. You'd thought some relegation fodder were worse considering they conceaded much more goals in total.

Also, FUUUU @ De Gea winning shot stopping. Hart letting in 2 in 3 shots against QPR is what gave De Gea the victory (or at least on the verge).
 
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Clegg

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Still, even if he was dodgy it was weird to see both Chelsea and United so high up. You'd thought some relegation fodder were worse considering they conceaded much more goals in total.

Also, FUUUU @ De Gea winning shot stopping. Hart letting in 2 in 3 shots against QPR is what gave De Gea the victory (or at least on the verge).
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I'm quite sure that not all of those goals from crosses were conceded by De Gea.

Lindegaard played 5 or 6 league games for us too.
 
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WJD

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Manager said:
Interesting..
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evra_talks_to_mutv.ashx
 
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Wilbur

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Some teams are more light in areas than others. Where would you be if Rooney was out all season?
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We wouldn't be anywhere near the title. However, Vidic and Kompany is a like for like replacement, and these stats showed we missed Vidic as a fact.
 
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Vivalaraza

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Phoenix Fang said:
No thanks. He is one dimensional just like Downing. A one trick pony with nothing else up his sleeve. No need to buy anymore dead woods, Liverpool already have enough of those.
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Adrian Durham is getting a bonus today.

His trolling has lured Jack Wilshere into a twitter rant against him.
 
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elsk

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Wilbury said:
Hahahaha

At least it's not that bad this year......................is it? What's the back four likely to be?
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Well, our defense line has been the 2nd best in Europe top leagues this time: Lahm - Boateng - Badstuber - Alaba.
But for the final we'll see something like: Lahm - Boateng - Tymo - Contento...

dc89 said:
Is Boateng injured?
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I'm talking about the defense line we had for the 09/10 CL final.
Boateng will play this final.
 
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Devil

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dc89 said:
Is Boateng injured?
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That was the lineup for the finale in 2010. This year it will most likely be Lahm, Boateng, Tymoschtchuk, Contento.

Due to the bookings of Alaba, Badstuber and Gustavo. This defense sucks big time.

I don't want to jinx it, but Tymo - Drogba could be the next van Buyten - Milito :/
 
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Awesome Animals

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So, Aston Villa pretty much need to get Andre Villa-Boas in as boss, and then Villa-Boas can make Yann M'Vila his first signing. I know not everyone is going to like this idea, but it is good for the league. Make it happen.
 
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GQman2121

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Awesome Animals said:
So, Aston Villa pretty much need to get Andre Villa-Boas in as boss, and then Villa-Boas can make Yann M'Vila his first signing. I know not everyone is going to like this idea, but it is good for the league. Make it happen.
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It's an idea. It's just not a realistic one.

M'Vila is going to sign for a contender.
 
M

Manager

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IT'S GUY LOVE

Clichy and Hart sharing quite a romantic moment there.

Wilbury said:
Aguero is an improvement on Tevez. Evans and Jones are not.
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Aguero was new to the league. His lack of goals was one of the reasons of all those lost points during a period, he was a bit inconsistent (but still more than anyone could hope over the whole season).

Between 19/11 and 4/2 he scored 6 goals in 17 matches.

Tevez coming back changed it all. His determination gave everyone a wake-up call. He keeps screaming at team mates, telling them to work harder. Him being back changed how the whole team played.
 
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Wilbur

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Aguero was new to the league. His lack of goals was one of the reasons of all those lost points during a period, he was a bit inconsistent (but still more than anyone could hope over the whole season).

Between 19/11 and 4/2 he scored 6 goals in 17 matches.

Tevez coming back changed it all. His determination gave everyone a wake-up call. He keeps screaming at team mates, telling them to work harder. Him being back changed how the whole team played.
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You're adding a player to complement Aguero, Dzeko and Balotelli. We had to cover for our most important player.

When Kompany was out for a few games your defence turned to shit. These stats also back up how much we missed Vidic. Smalling/Jones/Evans for Vidic is not the same as Aguero for Tevez.
 
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TeegsD

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Awesome Animals said:
So, Aston Villa pretty much need to get Andre Villa-Boas in as boss, and then Villa-Boas can make Yann M'Vila his first signing. I know not everyone is going to like this idea, but it is good for the league. Make it happen.
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I'm all for seeing Aston Villa becoming relevant again :p
 
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Plasma

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Do TalkSpite exist just to wind up Arsenal fans? Adrian Durham trying to explain why Arsenal Invincibles weren't that good.
 
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Manager

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Wilbury said:
You're adding a player to complement Aguero, Dzeko and Balotelli. We had to cover for our most important player.

When Kompany was out for a few games your defence turned to shit. These stats also back up how much we missed Vidic. Smalling/Jones/Evans for Vidic is not the same as Aguero for Tevez.
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Due to Kolo being away though, ACON.

City actually lost more matches with Lescott abscent than Kompany.

I am not saying City would have 89 points still, but it wouldn't turn to shit with Kolo there. It did with Savic though.
 
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Gareth Bale

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Awesome Animals said:
So, Aston Villa pretty much need to get Andre Villa-Boas in as boss, and then Villa-Boas can make Yann M'Vila his first signing. I know not everyone is going to like this idea, but it is good for the league. Make it happen.
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Get Vialli in as well as part of his coaching staff. Sign Villalva from River Plate and Villanova on a free.
 
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Hasphat'sAnts

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Devil said:
That was the lineup for the finale in 2010. This year it will most likely be Lahm, Boateng, Tymoschtchuk, Contento.

Due to the bookings of Alaba, Badstuber and Gustavo. This defense sucks big time.

I don't want to jinx it, but Tymo - Drogba could be the next van Buyten - Milito :/
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2010:

Butt/Badstuber-Micho-van Buyten-Lahm/Van Bommel-Schweini/Hamit Altintop-Mueller-Robben/Olic

2012

Neuer/Contento-Tymo-Boateng-Lahm/Kroos-Schweini/Ribery-Mueller-Robben/Gomez

Yeah. I'll take the 2012 squad please.
 
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Wilbur

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Manager said:
Due to Kolo being away though, ACON.

City actually lost more matches with Lescott abscent than Kompany.

I am not saying City would have 89 points still, but it wouldn't turn to shit with Kolo there. It did with Savic though.
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I think Lescott's been as good as Kompany this year to be honest, but that's what I'm saying. I don't think you would have done as well with one of Kompany/Lescott out all season, and I think we would have done better with Vidic all season.
 
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Manager

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Wilbury said:
I think Lescott's been as good as Kompany this year to be honest, but that's what I'm saying. I don't think you would have done as well with one of Kompany/Lescott out all season, and I think we would have done better with Vidic all season.
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Just look at the impact Evan's red card in the derby had.
 
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Devil

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Hasphat'sAnts said:
2010:

Butt/Badstuber-Micho-van Buyten-Lahm/Van Bommel-Schweini/Hamit Altintop-Mueller-Robben/Olic

2012

Neuer/Contento-Tymo-Boateng-Lahm/Kroos-Schweini/Ribery-Mueller-Robben/Gomez

Yeah. I'll take the 2012 squad please.
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Of course the 2012 squad is far superior. Probably even the defense. Still, it's problematic.

Well, nevertheless I will be on my way to Munich on Thursday. Don't have any tickets of course, but I just got to be there. I'm so damn excited already...
 
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Wilbur

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Just look at the impact Evan's red card in the derby had.
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I might be being dumb sorry, I don't mean to come off as aggressive here, but I don't get how it's relevant. Because Evans was missing we let in 5 goals? I'd attribute it to being down to 10 men and being 3-1 down in the 90th minute (which is a respectable scoreline with 10 men) before getting all cavalier and bombing forward leaving massive gaps at the back
 
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Manager

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Wilbury said:
I might be being dumb sorry, I don't mean to come off as aggressive here, but I don't get how it's relevant. Because Evans was missing we let in 5 goals? I'd attribute it to being down to 10 men and being 3-1 down in the 90th minute (which is a respectable scoreline with 10 men) before getting all cavalier and bombing forward leaving massive gaps at the back
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I meant, I agreed with you.
 
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