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Football Thread 2011/12 |OT10| Silverware, promotion, survival, relegation and tears
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flintstryker
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I have been all for goal line tech ever since Lampard's goal wasn't given in the world cup.
Final thoughts on the game today: firstly regarding the goal-line debacle I think it is largely irrelevant, Liverpool had 90 minutes to compete & failed, plus even had it gone in it would not have won the match, merely drawn it and it could have gone anywhere from there.
Secondly I think today's biggest failing, one which has been repeated throughout the season, has been the failure to produce any kind of consistent formation. Kenny seems to have been constantly caught between the desire to field the best Liverpool can and trying to force his new signings to work, as well as a baffling refusal to consider anyone for the RW position other than Hendo, Kuyt & Downing. Frequently during the first half we witnessed Gerrard coming right to the defenders to get the ball, Bellamy on the left wing for no reason & Suarez all over the place. There has been no consistency there and it has punished Liverpool.
Finally with a look back to the season I think there are a few things which Kenny should not be blamed for: first, Kuyt's form dropping dramatically and seeing him go from top scorer to 1 goal this season, second, Spearing being an inadequate back-up to Lucas, in any case the lengthy injury was very surprising, plus Spearing had done well anytime he was asked to by Kenny and finally the form of Downing. When he was bought there were certainly people who felt that Liverpool had overspent, had wasted money, yet even the most pessimistic of observers would not have predicted that he would get pretty much zero goals & assists for the season, no one could have forseen he would be so awful.
I suppose it should be said that the previous paragraph does not show my support for Kenny, I still feel Liverpool would be better off moving on.
Secondly I think today's biggest failing, one which has been repeated throughout the season, has been the failure to produce any kind of consistent formation. Kenny seems to have been constantly caught between the desire to field the best Liverpool can and trying to force his new signings to work, as well as a baffling refusal to consider anyone for the RW position other than Hendo, Kuyt & Downing. Frequently during the first half we witnessed Gerrard coming right to the defenders to get the ball, Bellamy on the left wing for no reason & Suarez all over the place. There has been no consistency there and it has punished Liverpool.
Finally with a look back to the season I think there are a few things which Kenny should not be blamed for: first, Kuyt's form dropping dramatically and seeing him go from top scorer to 1 goal this season, second, Spearing being an inadequate back-up to Lucas, in any case the lengthy injury was very surprising, plus Spearing had done well anytime he was asked to by Kenny and finally the form of Downing. When he was bought there were certainly people who felt that Liverpool had overspent, had wasted money, yet even the most pessimistic of observers would not have predicted that he would get pretty much zero goals & assists for the season, no one could have forseen he would be so awful.
I suppose it should be said that the previous paragraph does not show my support for Kenny, I still feel Liverpool would be better off moving on.
The morale victory you might say.
I actually disagree. In this case, erring on the side of caution would be assuming it had crossed. That was much more likely than not.
I had no idea Carvalho was fit to play, lol I though he was still injured.
You're right, even if Higuain is leaving, I don't know why Mou wouldn't at least start him in the last two games of his Madrid career. And if he is staying, he should be given more playing time since that is why he wants to leave in the first place.
At least it's good to see Varane and Sahin getting playing time.
Marcelo is captain? :lol
Yeah he's fit but I bet he leaves after this season. He has no place in Real, sadly.
Yeap, great chance for Varane and Sahin, agreed.
Yeah he's fit but I bet he leaves after this season. He has no place in Real, sadly.
Yeap, great chance for Varane and Sahin, agreed.
Is there conclusive evidence it wasn't over?
Same in Portugal in half an hour
There will never be conclusive evidence, but none of the angles seen so far show it fully over the line. Lots of people seem to think that if just a bit of the ball is over, it's a goal.
SunhiLegend
Member
Last home game
LFMartins86
Member
Not sure if Oneywu starting ahead of Xandão is a good idea but it still feels great to see the big man back on the field. It would be fucking awesome if he scored the winning goal.
Mr. Luchador
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Did Gerrard come off?
LabouredSubterfuge
Member
Time to become a Newcastle supporter.
Ey up.
Ey up.
Howay the lads.
Broder Salsa
Banned
Could have been 2-0 there.
Is there any conclusive evidence that Carroll is a human? If no, then we should ban him imo.
Is there any conclusive evidence that Carroll is a human? If no, then we should ban him imo.
Jeff Albertson
Member
I'm still unsure and maybe if we had goal line tech it may prove the whole ball was over. As it is I think the linesman made the right call there.
As an aside I may act like a bit of a cunt at times but you lot made that game 100x more bearable
<3
As an aside I may act like a bit of a cunt at times but you lot made that game 100x more bearable
<3
Steverulez
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Great win, very pleased.
Can't believe how poor Liverpool were, absolutely shocking. Wouldn't have known Gerrard or Suarez were on the pitch for most of it.
That said, we controlled the first half but didn't create much, needed to score more, for the way we played it was as if we were already 2/3-0 up. We need to be more clinical put matches to bed.
But its a final, we could have played Basingstoke and no team will probably end up walking through the match.
Disappointed Torres didn't get on but I can see why, I don't think he would have played well against Liverpool today and I wouldn't have taken the risk necessarily.
Defence looked strong, when we have a team like Liverpool who have a lot of talent and skill but don't always show it as a team I think we could easily have been bulldozed by them showing it consistently but thankfully they didn't and we held on. I like under RDM how strong the defence has been, I'm not a fan of having to hang on for such long periods but we've only really done against Barce and Pool in the cups so i'll forgive him.
For Tuesday, I'm expecting a backlash. Carroll will undoubtedly start, as will Torres. Depending on how results go tomorrow I think its important we try and win to capitalise on the other teams dropping points (if they do) tomorrow. Its not over until the whistle on the final day against Blackburn.
Finally, Andy Carroll is going to be a great player.
Can't believe how poor Liverpool were, absolutely shocking. Wouldn't have known Gerrard or Suarez were on the pitch for most of it.
That said, we controlled the first half but didn't create much, needed to score more, for the way we played it was as if we were already 2/3-0 up. We need to be more clinical put matches to bed.
But its a final, we could have played Basingstoke and no team will probably end up walking through the match.
Disappointed Torres didn't get on but I can see why, I don't think he would have played well against Liverpool today and I wouldn't have taken the risk necessarily.
Defence looked strong, when we have a team like Liverpool who have a lot of talent and skill but don't always show it as a team I think we could easily have been bulldozed by them showing it consistently but thankfully they didn't and we held on. I like under RDM how strong the defence has been, I'm not a fan of having to hang on for such long periods but we've only really done against Barce and Pool in the cups so i'll forgive him.
For Tuesday, I'm expecting a backlash. Carroll will undoubtedly start, as will Torres. Depending on how results go tomorrow I think its important we try and win to capitalise on the other teams dropping points (if they do) tomorrow. Its not over until the whistle on the final day against Blackburn.
Finally, Andy Carroll is going to be a great player.
Awesome.
It was Carvalho :lol
Great save by Adan. The defence is all over the place. This is the reason why Mou don't play Carvalho and Albiol :lol
Welcome to the winning team, Laboured =)
Mr. Luchador
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LabouredSubterfuge
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Cheers buddy.
Hey wtf, the team I support suddenly has two competent central midfielders.
And James Perch!
Jeff Albertson
Member
See you at ewood!
Zaragoza just equalized :lol
Milchmonster
Member
So, Hertha in the play-offs means they are destroying the pitch for the final
Sheff Wed got the job done? Congrats.
HollovVpo1nt
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I'm watching Real and Barcelone at the same time..
And that's really how it should be in the last fixtures of the season.
Why Napoli, Lazio and Udinese are playing a few hours before Inter makes no fucking sense whatsoever. (non-financially speaking)
All of the above are fighting for the third spot, and if they all somehow end up winning, it might kill Inter's motivation in their clash with Milan.
Oh, good, glad it wasn't Varane, I like him a lot.
Swansea's bench is probably league 1 level and they still beat Man City.
We'll be fine.
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