I bet you want Kagawa to come to Bayern right Elsk.. Admit it..
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Football Thread 2011/2012 | OT11 | Roll on the Euros and transfer muppetry
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I bet you want Kagawa to come to Bayern right Elsk.. Admit it..
Bild report that Bayern are very interested in Dzeko (Matías Suarez 2nd option), already in talks with Javi Martínez, furthermore interested in Mathieu.
Here we go...
Obviously. We made an offer (to him) but he wants to leave Germany. I think he's better than Hazard.
Here we go...
Obviously. We made an offer (to him) but he wants to leave Germany. I think he's better than Hazard.
yeah it's burried in the garbage article where they warm up all the transferrumours: http://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/bayern-muenchen/plant-so-den-grossangriff-24367408.bild.html (right under his picture)
Isn't the point of the sporting director that he can make these long term plans?
Vivalaraza
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Plz be us plz be us plz be us.
Not to get too muppetry but Hazard is said to have informed the clubs involved of his decision over the weekend. If that's the case then I'm sure United will have wanted to accelerated the Kagawa deal.
elsk admit you want to sign him!!!!! You'd even give up Robben won't ya..? lol
like i said, besides that Martinez bit they're just consolidating the current rumours.
Isn't Terry a West Ham youth product? He left very early though.
Edit: I also think it's a mistake for Eden Hazard to go to Chelsea unless they bring in a few more star players to replace their old and crumbling backbone.
Not bad. I guess Contento is leaving then
I really liked him.► Edin Dzeko (26/Manchester City), kostet 25 Mio.
► Javi Martínez (23/Bilbao), kostet 20 Mio.
► Jérémy Mathieu (28, Valencia), kostet 10 Mio.
► Matías Suárez (24/Anderlecht), kostet 8 Mio.
I would prefer to get Suárez rather than Dzeko.
I hate most of them atm, but Mueller is always cool. Schweini too.
Only dicks are Robben, Ribéry, Breno and maybe Tymo
Don't believe so. He used to support United but signed for Chelsea.
excluding robben you can go with everyone. even ribery.
personally I would go with gomez or müller
I mean look at him. I think there's not even one person in germany who hates him. he's very likable
Hope everythings agreed and united get him. Expecting this gif to be used quite a bit next season
Plz be us plz be us plz be us.
Not to get too muppetry but Hazard is said to have informed the clubs involved of his decision over the weekend. If that's the case then I'm sure United will have wanted to accelerated the Kagawa deal.
WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU
He's an amazing player but still a dick. He fucked everything in the 09/10 season when he got that red card for being an ass. And now he punched Robben (deserved I guees, but still!).
Never liked him that much, tbh. He was a true ass when Real Madrid wanted him, don't you remember? Later in the season when things were going very well he extended but I will never forget the circus he made.
Broder Salsa
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Yes but it's not like Szczesny was in England before the middle of the 00's either.
But it's pretty silly to count their real youth years, in that case Puyol wouldn't be a Barcelona product either... Even though he quite clearly is.
excluding robben you can go with everyone. even ribery.
personally I would go with gomez or müller
I mean look at him. I think there's not even one person in germany who hates him. he's very likable
Not bad. I guess Contento is leaving then
► Edin Dzeko (26/Manchester City), kostet 25 Mio.
► Javi Martínez (23/Bilbao), kostet 20 Mio.
► Jérémy Mathieu (28, Valencia), kostet 10 Mio.
► Matías Suárez (24/Anderlecht), kostet 8 Mio.
I would prefer to get Suárez rather than Dzeko.
I hate most of them atm, but Mueller is always cool. Schweini too.
Only dicks are Robben, Ribéry, Breno and maybe Tymo
Haha I'll look into Mueller over the Euro's
I heard something similar as well. English clubs are restricted from taking on young players unless they are in a certain catchment area, True?
Sorry, but i'll never forget the 07/08 season. His transfer was Bayerns reintroduction in world class football. Yeah he wanted to leave, so what, at least he was honest and afterwards he genuinely fell in love with the club.
i believe thats true yeah. Until they are 16 or 18 and can sign pro contracts
Broder Salsa
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Yeah but pretty sure those rules weren't in place back then with players like Terry.
Vivalaraza
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Yeah, just as long as they don't want too much in wages :lol
We'd offered enough and he'd deemed our contract as financially viable as the offers from City and Chelsea, or am I just getting the wrong end of the stick and you mean in general?
Yes, I like his spirit and love for Bayern but that doesn't change the fact that he's an ass
Here's a little run down of Liverpool structure, which mentions the youth policy for England
http://www.aliverpoolthing.com/2011/07/pep-segura-explains-strategy-behind.html
Vivalaraza
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I'm not sure it proves anything to get too excited about. It proves we have £30m to spend on one player, but that we can't then go and give him £150k+ a week. Okay sure, Hazard is young and unproven so there's that, if it was somebody else perhaps we would have paid the required wages, but the fact of the matter is this is the going rate, and we can't match it.
Wages aside, we will see by the end of the summer just how much we have to spend. If that £30m for Hazard is spent on somebody else, and we still carry through with deals for, for example, Baines and Kagawa...then it's something to be optimistic about.
I think it's more likely that £30m goes back into the "special purchase" fund and re-emerges next season following a similar story to Benzema/Sneijder/Hazard.
Edit - This deal costs Chelsea £78m over the next 5 years. A £35.3m fee, £170k per week in wages and £6m to the agent (figures from The Telegraph). We can't afford that.
Thanks for the information. Been searching for it but its surprising difficult to find.
I thought it didn't come down to wages as we'd offered enough and he'd accepted our offer (as well as the one from City and Chelsea) and it came down to where he thought he'd play the most, at least that's what I gathered.
He had three acceptable offers (ie we were prepared to pay him enough to land him) and he chose one of them.
José Mourinho
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As far as I'm aware, Lampard and Terry are the top earners at Chelsea and are estimated to be earning 130K a week. I don't think Hazard would be getting as much as them. I also remember reading something about Chelsea and how they weren't for handing out ludicrous wages any more to get in line with FFP.
Hazard did say in the end it would come down to where he would play and how often. So I presume UTD and City weren't offering him what he wanted in that regard.
Hazard did say in the end it would come down to where he would play and how often. So I presume UTD and City weren't offering him what he wanted in that regard.
Is the 130,000 after tax?
Vivalaraza
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Well, it's unclear at least. I personally think money played a part in his choice (and definitely with regards to his agent), he would have played most weeks for us if we were willing to pay £30m for him.
We couldn't afford wages for Sneijder last year either.
Anyhow, sticking to the fees and not wages, we'll see at the end of the summer just how much we have to spend.
Torres is on 200k lol
wow. bestest video ever
to be fair, Sneijder's wage demands were ridiculous, weren't they? I'm sure with Inter in complete freefall, he'll crawl back to the bargaining table with slightly more reasonable demands. The only question is which team would be willing to go for him, esp if United get Kagawa.
José Mourinho
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At guess, probably. But truth be told I don't worry about football club finances because the truth of the matter is, nobody has a clue what players are on what amounts of money. It's all speculation and I can't be bothered with it.
No, Torres is allegedly on 200k. I'd bet my life he's not on that.
Vivalaraza
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Hazard is said to be on £110k after tax.
No idea what Terry and Lampard are on but we know Chelsea's wage bill last year was about £175m.
If you assume Chelsea have a squad of 25 players and a manager earning the lion-share of wages at the club, that itself averages out to £130k a week each. Of course, some players will be on much more than others and that doesn't include all the staff and youth players.
But clearly, there are some players in that squad earning close or upwards of £200k, before tax. I wouldn't be surprised if Hazard is not amongst them.
No idea what Terry and Lampard are on but we know Chelsea's wage bill last year was about £175m.
If you assume Chelsea have a squad of 25 players and a manager earning the lion-share of wages at the club, that itself averages out to £130k a week each. Of course, some players will be on much more than others and that doesn't include all the staff and youth players.
But clearly, there are some players in that squad earning close or upwards of £200k, before tax. I wouldn't be surprised if Hazard is not amongst them.
Haha, someone gif Wenger
José Mourinho
cocknose
That is hilarious.
But was that not because Sneijder wanted to be on around £200k after tax? That's nothing compared to what Hazard has got at Chelsea.
Well your fucked then.
Lahm-Dzeko. Good times.
So.. he'll "fit right in".
José Mourinho
cocknose
So when did you run your eye over his contract then?
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