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Football Thread 2011/2012 | OT11 | Roll on the Euros and transfer muppetry
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Phoenix Fang
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Is it me or does it seem Carroll can dribble now? That pass to Welbeck was pretty good for his standard.
BlindCommunication
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What a game!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Best game of the tournament so far!!!! Insane goal from Welbeck!!!
Awesome Animals
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OMG, I can't believe I'm missing this game.
Black Republican
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welback yes
BlindCommunication
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Walcott did his harmstring. He played too well, went over his limits. His best game in an England shirt since his hat trick against Croatia. Shame it lasted 10 mins.
Pray he gets injured.
Looked his calf, seems ok, precaution if he goes off
BlindCommunication
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Ah yes he's back on the pitch now. Looks ok, Ox should come on for him.
Poor trolling attempt.
Awesome Animals
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Well, I'd say start Carroll, but definitely have Welbeck come on by the 60' mark.
Phoenix Fang
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Why does Rooney automatically get in the team?
Awesome Animals
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England's screwed though now. After low expectations, the media is going to be going crazy in putting pressure on the squad.
Normally I'd agree that a player shouldn't be brought back into the starting 11 immediately after serving a suspension.
But Rooney is Englands best striker by far.
It would be foolish not to start him.
Been the best English player last season. Scored 30+ goals last season and countless assists. Better than both Carroll and Welbeck. Helps the team to hold the ball better by dropping into midfield more effectively than the other strikers. Also improves the passing too.
Willkiller
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I don't see why you can't fit Carroll, Welbeck and Rooney into an England team. Certainly, it's a little bit more difficult if you also have to include Walcott, since Welbeck is probably not so effective playing on the left. But a front 4 of:
----------Carroll----------
Welbeck-Rooney-Walcott
is feasible. Doubt Hodgson would go for it though. I would expect Carroll to start over Welbeck, simply because Welbeck has played 2 games thus far and it makes sense to rest him.
----------Carroll----------
Welbeck-Rooney-Walcott
is feasible. Doubt Hodgson would go for it though. I would expect Carroll to start over Welbeck, simply because Welbeck has played 2 games thus far and it makes sense to rest him.
It would be really hard for the media to put any more pressure than they are now.
That to me was a great team performance. Two sloppy goals conceded, but you can work on those. The three that England scored were pure class.
As for Carroll and Rooney vs Welbeck and Rooney it's hard to say. Both can have an impact - Welbeck has much more pace and can hit on the break but Carroll really did his job up front today with the knock downs and passing, dare I say he had a very big part to play in this victory today. In fact I thought all three Liverpool players did quite well. Gerrard was a top class CM.
Milner had another rather poor game and Ashley Young was quiet by his standards. Almost no crosses came in from his side but he always looked threatening when in the area. If Rooney can play at his potential, it should be an easy victory vs Ukraine and a potentially good draw for the knockout round.
Happy for England - I'd love to see them keep going.
That to me was a great team performance. Two sloppy goals conceded, but you can work on those. The three that England scored were pure class.
As for Carroll and Rooney vs Welbeck and Rooney it's hard to say. Both can have an impact - Welbeck has much more pace and can hit on the break but Carroll really did his job up front today with the knock downs and passing, dare I say he had a very big part to play in this victory today. In fact I thought all three Liverpool players did quite well. Gerrard was a top class CM.
Milner had another rather poor game and Ashley Young was quiet by his standards. Almost no crosses came in from his side but he always looked threatening when in the area. If Rooney can play at his potential, it should be an easy victory vs Ukraine and a potentially good draw for the knockout round.
Happy for England - I'd love to see them keep going.
LabouredSubterfuge
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Thought Milner and Young were poor today. Carroll, Welbeck, Gerrard and Walcott did the job nicely. Really nice to see Hodgson bring on useful attacking substitutions.
Milner had a better game than Young. Milner at least got a handful of crosses in the penalty area in the first half but was right to be swapped when he did as he was getting sucked out of position too much and didn't have the pace to cover back. Ashley did nothing and in the second half consistently lost the ball much to my anguish.
LabouredSubterfuge
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not again
:lol Terry lift that cup and I stop watching football.
I want England to win if Germany doesn't, though. And with Gerrard playing a big part, then retiring international football.
My real problem was our central midfield, every time one of Gerrard or Parker went forward we lost the ball and Sweden just ran straight through the midfield up the other end and had a chance.
Parker just doesn't have the legs to cover his central partner going forward on his own.
Parker just doesn't have the legs to cover his central partner going forward on his own.
I agree. I can see Theo starting against the Ukraine now. I think Roy will start Young, Rooney and Welbeck and hope the left side works like they do for their club and leave Walcott to go nuts on the right, leaving Gerrard and Parker to sit back constantly.
Roy got every decision right, he was let down by the players for the goals.
checkeredknight
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I wish Chris Moyles did alternative commentary for all of the England games.
Ukraine can't afford to sit deep, they need a win. I think with Rooney given a free role England should flow a lot better. His work rate sets a good standard.
I thought Carroll did well today. Did a Heskey to give away the free kick but worked hard.
Just checking in here rather than the Euros thread because I'll most likely get some fucking idiots telling me we were shite. Defense for 15 minutes was awful but we controlled the game, looked good going forward and except for the two set plays they scored from, defense doing the job again.
Gerrard was class, Carroll and Welbeck not far behind, and nice to see Walcott actually do anything. Now I'm off to the pub. Have a good night lads
Gerrard was class, Carroll and Welbeck not far behind, and nice to see Walcott actually do anything. Now I'm off to the pub. Have a good night lads
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