Hey, you're totally my favorite. In this topic. Probably. At least top five.
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Football Thread 2012/13 |OT3| Two-sided triangles
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Hey, you're totally my favorite. In this topic. Probably. At least top five.
I'm glad I have someone to share this accolade with
AndresON777
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The_Hitcher89
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Absolutely beautiful. Korey returns with yet another troll that seemingly took him quite a while to write, and it got locked after 1 reply, which was spot on. Luvverly
AndresON777
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No Barca, or RM or Bayern or United or City or Chelsea.
uh I hate how you guys restrict teams. I like driving a ferrari bro
No Barca, or RM or Bayern or United or City or Chelsea.
Even better. Will use Swindon Town and win everything then.
Freewheelin'
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Hey, you're totally my favorite. In this topic. Probably. At least top five.
Reminds me of the Brian Clough qoute
"I wouldn't say I was the best manager in the business. But I was in the top one."
http://www.brianclough.com/new_page_2.htm
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Crazy to think Zenit wasn't on this list TWO DAYS ago.
And Bayern got in just because of the Martinez signing.
That was brilliant. Perfect lock & ban.
For sure. I have only seen the film. Loved it.
José Mourinho
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Thanks. I'm reading The Brothers Karamazov this month and continuing Inverting the Pyramid but I'll add it to my list.
pulga
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You are fucking crazy, Schweinsteiger is hardly irreplaceable. CR is a rare player, at this point youre just basically trolling him for shits and giggles. Say it with me, 151/149.
Well, maybe if Kroos grows to be just like him. But no, I wouldn't want any other player in exchange of Schweinsteiger.
edit: sucks about morsel :/, wonder how long he's out for. Should be back for the real football discussion (?)
Aren't you like Real Madrid and Manchester United fans? Cristiano Ronaldo is a great player, no doubt, but he isn't even the 2nd best player in the world. He's just the result of Real Madrid needing a player to "fight" with Messi. "The second best player in the world" is pure media bullshit.
If he is so amazing, how come Bayern with 11 players + 1 bench player managed to dominate both legs against Real Madrid?
And yes, Schweinsteiger is a much more important player to Bayern than Cristiano Ronaldo is to Real Madrid.
Robben in his first season at Bayern was easily better than Cristiano Ronaldo in any season.
Difference is, I don't overhype players just because they play for the team I follow. I think I'm one of the few Bayern fans that actually say Gomez is an obstacle for the team rather than an important player... but most fans think he's the best because he's a Bayern player and scored shit tons of goals. I also think Kroos should've been sold/exchanged for Leverkusen to give us Vidal, because we actually don't need Kroos he doesn't fit in our 4-2-3-1.
If you guys want to overhype players just because he's a Real Madrid player then do it. But If he wasn't a Real Madrid player, other RM player would've been called the "2nd best in the world".
pulga
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You know, you spinning this as us being RM and MU fans doesnt help your case, we can easily do this back to you. Just look at what youre saying: the vast majority of people will agree CR >>>>>>>>>>> Robben any day of the week, why is this even a matter of debate?????
And thats absolute crap about you not overhyping players. Ffs you just said Robben is better than Ronaldo! Holy shit, and I thought Barca fans can be surreal with the stuff they say. Robben better than Ronaldo... Lolololololololololololololoooooooooooool
And whats that about him being an RM player = second best? Ive thought that about Ronaldo since his MU days. Seriously, you should work for some kind of PR department, the way you spin things.
Edit: oh god you even slipped "easily" in there :lol :lol :lol
You watched Robben in the 09/10 season? He was the reason why Bayern won the Cup, League and made it to the CL final. He also made Netherlands reach the WC final. Has CR7 done something like that yet?
If you didn't watch Bayern in that season then I don't get how you have the balls to come and start saying stupid things. Robben never reached that form again, and is obvious he's not near the level of CR7 or even Ribéry now.
Robben was compared to Messi when he played for Real Madrid, by the spanish media, but I'm sure you don't remember that
pulga
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But Ronaldos also won us Cup, League and Supercup??? Are you even listening to yourself? If Ronaldo had the squad Robben has in the NT he'd also challenge for international honors. Plus what good is Robben in a final anyway if he's gonna bottle them all?
And of course the spanish media would hype Robben up to be RMs answer to Barca. Difference is Ronaldos actually lived up to the moniker.
You watched Robben in the 09/10 season? He was the reason why Bayern won the Cup, League and made it to the CL final. He also made Netherlands reach the WC final. Has CR7 done something like that yet?
If you didn't watch Bayern in that season then I don't get how you have the balls to come and start saying stupid things. Robben never reached that form again, and is obvious he's not near the level of CR7 or even Ribéry now.
Robben was compared to Messi when he played for Real Madrid, by the spanish media, but I'm sure you don't remember that
Ronaldo hasn't just played for Madrid. He also carried Manchester United to 3 league titles, a Champions League win, another Champions League final... scored a ridiculous amount of goals along the way, for United and even more for Real Madrid. To even compare him to Gomez, someone who can't even play football and only scores tap-ins, is an insult to professional footballers everywhere.
And Robben was fantastic that season, but Ronaldo has been at that level, consistently, for the past 5+ seasons. Not even a contest, imo.
Bayern squad in the 09/10 was terribly bad:
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Lahm - van Buyten - Demichelis - Badstuber
MvB - Schweinsteiger
Robben - Mueller - Altintop (Ribéry for a few matches)
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So I do think Robben, in that season, was better than CR7 has ever been in Real Madrid.
I don't remember him being that great before last season. He always looked terribly bad against Barcelona and was only great against smaller sides.
:lol Sorry, it was an unfortunate 1st post.
I think Robben, at his prime, is as good as any player in the world. And more of a pleasure to watch than Ronaldo.
Thank God that pic is gone.
I was comparing Gomez amount of goals with CR7's amount of goals. Because people were saying "who is going to score those goals if he's gone?". Their current system works for CR7 to score, just as Bayern last seasons system worked for Gomez to score. If they're gone, the system changes and some other player (or players) are going to score those goals.
Sviatoslav
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You don't score 151 in 149 by only having one good season.
No, but by scoring against lower sides teams in La Liga :O
How is his CL record with RM? Last season Bayern was the first decent team they faced, and couldn't manage to win against a team with zero depth and fucking Mario Gomez as striker.
pulga
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We had Ramos ;_;
... who has more goals per game ratio than Cristiano Ronaldo in the Champions league.
AND scored the winner in the last minute. :lol
Ronaldo scored 10 in 10 during the UCL last season. He has 23 goals in 28 UCL appearances for Real.
Sviatoslav
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He had 7 goals in 6 knockout stage games in the champions league including 2 against your boys. Give the dude some credit.
One of the goals is from a penalty.
I know he's a great player, I'm not doubting that for an instant, but he's overhyped by the media and RM (and ManU) fans. He's not "the second best player in the world", that's my point.
And two of those 7 goals are against fucking APOEL Nikosia.
Let's deconstruct the Robben myth.
- Bayern Munich had a piss easy route to the 2010 CL final, and then promptly lost it. They beat Fiorentina with a ridiculously offisde goal, then Robben scored that phenomenal volley against a ten man Manchester United side, then you beat Lyon. Congrats. Lyon, a team who had only gotten so far because they happened to face another French team in the knockout stages. Robben did really well in that CL final though...
- World Cup was as much about luck (easy route to final, Brazil collapsing, another little known player called Wesley Sneijder who was in the form of his life after doing what Robben couldn't: win the CL) as it was Robben's remarkable ability to choke.
- Ronaldo, renowned big game bottler, scored in a CL final. He missed a penalty in the shootout, and missed another in the Nou Camp earlier, but he still scored. And he also scored 41 other times that season. He also scored against Porto in 08-09, and twice in a CL semifinal against Arsenal [insert joke about how Arsenal aren't a big team]. Big games. And he's continued that form at Madrid; hell, he's improved it. 150 goals is ridiculous. So RM didn't draw "difficult" teams in the CL last season... neither did Bayern until RM? I have no idea what this is supposed to prove. He's scored against Barcelona in the past 6? 7? clasicos? those aren't big games?
Just because RM lost on penalties to Bayern doesn't suddenly make Ronaldo a shit player (or worse than Robben). I don't even like Ronaldo. But there's no way he's suddenly easily replaceable just because he finishes more chances than he creates. If it was easy to score 150 goals in three seasons then someone other than Messi would have done it too. (And on the wing, no less, with Benzema + Higuain each chipping in 20 last season.) Maybe he's not the 2nd best player in the world. But he is definitely the best player in the world that doesn't play for Barcelona.
- Bayern Munich had a piss easy route to the 2010 CL final, and then promptly lost it. They beat Fiorentina with a ridiculously offisde goal, then Robben scored that phenomenal volley against a ten man Manchester United side, then you beat Lyon. Congrats. Lyon, a team who had only gotten so far because they happened to face another French team in the knockout stages. Robben did really well in that CL final though...
- World Cup was as much about luck (easy route to final, Brazil collapsing, another little known player called Wesley Sneijder who was in the form of his life after doing what Robben couldn't: win the CL) as it was Robben's remarkable ability to choke.
- Ronaldo, renowned big game bottler, scored in a CL final. He missed a penalty in the shootout, and missed another in the Nou Camp earlier, but he still scored. And he also scored 41 other times that season. He also scored against Porto in 08-09, and twice in a CL semifinal against Arsenal [insert joke about how Arsenal aren't a big team]. Big games. And he's continued that form at Madrid; hell, he's improved it. 150 goals is ridiculous. So RM didn't draw "difficult" teams in the CL last season... neither did Bayern until RM? I have no idea what this is supposed to prove. He's scored against Barcelona in the past 6? 7? clasicos? those aren't big games?
Just because RM lost on penalties to Bayern doesn't suddenly make Ronaldo a shit player (or worse than Robben). I don't even like Ronaldo. But there's no way he's suddenly easily replaceable just because he finishes more chances than he creates. If it was easy to score 150 goals in three seasons then someone other than Messi would have done it too. (And on the wing, no less, with Benzema + Higuain each chipping in 20 last season.) Maybe he's not the 2nd best player in the world. But he is definitely the best player in the world that doesn't play for Barcelona.
Except it's only 2 or 3 strands! Literally!
Why don't you go cry in the corner to your Cesc and RvP poster? Way to be subjective. Bayern road to the CL final in the 09/10 season was all but easy specially considering the squad we had. We faced strong sides back then, unlike Real Madrid.
And are you talking about the Lyon that eliminated CR7's Real Madrid? uh-uh
Manchester City, Napoli, Basel (eliminated ManU, oh!), RM. Marseille and Villarreal where the only relative easy ones. Haha, oh man you're a joke.
I will give Bayern this: they beat Lyon. Who beat Real Madrid. So therefore Robben > Ronaldo.
But if it weren't for the offside goal, they would've gotten just as far as Madrid did. Oops.
Sviatoslav
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elsk, so what would Ronaldo have to accomplish for him to become the second best player in the world, at least in your eyes?
But Lyon lost to Apoel who lost to Real Madrid who lost to Bayern.
I remember watching this live and hate-respecting Ronaldo for it. Fucking amazing hit
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