KidA Seven
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In the past week alone there's been a million posts already crowning you as FA Cup winners, spouting silly arguments like "if Ramsey wasn't injured we'd have won the league". Viva is entirely right in saying things like Aguero and Suarez's absences also affecting things just as much. The rhetoricals help no one; it just invites scorn.
This is always such a stupid argument. Why should you have beaten us? If anything we should be resenting the fact we didn't get all 3 points from that game.
The Atticus
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Arsenal Fans.
The goal is to win at places where we dropped points this season. It just happens to be more feasible to do that at St. Mary's than say the Etihad or Anfield. I didn't really mean any offense by it, I just really expected us to win there especially after going 2-1 up.
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Agree that if x y z happened arguments don't help much.....but Ramsey is easily their best midfielder. I doubt they would have capitulated the way they did if he was fit.
I just struggle to comprehend the Wenger out garbage already happening
If (big if) you beat Hull, I reckon majority of Gunners would have taken the FA cup and top 4.
I don't think it's possible for that side to have even been thinking about a title challenge considering the petro wealth and how that Liverpool side was playing
Disagree Guy
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I for one think David Luiz is a solid defender (and if FIFA is anything to go by then he is way OP)
Do you hope its wrong because you dont want David Luiz to go?
Vivalaraza
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I'm not trolling.
On the 8th of March Arsenal were 7 points off top spot, with 10 games still to play.
You never closed that gap from then until the end of the season, where the title was won on the last day.
Sorry but that is a shit "title challenge". Don't see how pointing that out is trolling.
On the 8th of March Arsenal were 7 points off top spot, with 10 games still to play.
You never closed that gap from then until the end of the season, where the title was won on the last day.
Sorry but that is a shit "title challenge". Don't see how pointing that out is trolling.
It's jest dude, I'm enjoying the moment we're in the final. After all the shit we get about trophies all the fucking time, over and over again, every time we say anything even if it's not about Arsenal it gets rubbed in. You want us to be respectful yet tolerate the opposite shit endlessly.
The amount of Ozil trolling this season has been fucking ridiculous.
Ofcourse but you're going to drop points somewhere. Especially on the road. All teams fancy themselves to beat anyway at home.
I understand feeling aggrieved if you drop points by being robbed or against the run of play but it seems a bit silly to say that when the other team dominated the majority of the game.
First of all, lots of the overconfidence (on my pat, anyway) is tongue in cheek just like the "we're going to win the league" stuff was for the most part. Second of all, I don't think it's silly to suggest that having our best players fit in the second half of the season would have changed things. Yes, all clubs have injuries and it's part and parcel of the game but I don't think it's inappropriate to bring it up when judging Arsenal as a whole. Thirdly, this "Arsenal fans" thing is really quite dismissive and other fanbases on here don't get the same sort of treatment. Find it verging on bullying.
Freewheelin'
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Well the trolling is not really trolling at all. For the amount of money we paid for him, it should have gone on a striker. Not saying Ozil isn't worth that cos I think he's brilliant (very inconsistent tho). We needed a striker way more than we needed Ozil IMO.
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=819730
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=819730
By the way guys, is boardwalk empire worth sticking to ?
Currently at episode 6 within the first season, but I'm not fully satisfied yet.
Disagree Guy
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A big marquee signing trumps logic alot of the time.
It's trolling. Not Ozil's fault we didn't buy a striker. He was getting slammed 10 minutes into matches.
KidA Seven
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They think it's a title challenge because they haven't been that close since 2011. The graph posted earlier was correct right up until 2012 when Arsenal were already out of the race to start the season. Last season was the first time since 2011 that they actually were in the title race for a good amount of time.
On the Ozil subject, I think some people are too harsh on him. I think he had a pretty good season, but certainly one he can improve on. I would like to see him in action for another season before criticizing it.
I don't expect us to dominate every game, that's impossible. I do expect us to be able to maintain a lead however and we failed in that regard miserably over the course of the season especially when our initial challenge this season was so strong.
I'm talking about me only. Not any other Arsenal fan.
And I think this post is verging on playing the victim card :lol. Bayern, Barca and Madrid fans get it in the neck way more than arsenal fans do. Come on.
Absolutely. Picks up near the end of the season, and 2/3/4 are all brilliant.
We'll win the FA cup final and next season we'll be so far ahead of other teams in quality that competing for the title will be a joke. United will go through a transition, Chelsea will kill itself with Mou's defense tactics, Liverpool will not replace the void left by Suarez, Spurs will finish below us as usual and City won't be as hungry to win again. In terms of individual quality Arsenal is better than any other team in the league.
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without Ozil, we aren't top of the table for the first half of the season. don't be fooled by the revisionist history, he had a good season. not a great season, but a good one.
and please don't even bother mentioning assists, because it's a fucking meaningless stat and everyone knows it
and please don't even bother mentioning assists, because it's a fucking meaningless stat and everyone knows it
Freewheelin'
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But the fact is Ozil has been poor at times throughout the season. Surely everyone in ArseGAF can admit that right? It's not just me?
I can admit that definitely he's had poor games. Liverpool away for one. Although everyone was shit in that game.
Vivalaraza
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I don't even class that as a title challenge. You have to sustain. What's the point in leading for 2/3 the season and then just being totally irrelevant for the rest of it when the pressure is on? You're not really challenging for anything in that case are you?
Injuries is a weak weak weak excuse. Liverpool's squad was tiny and City have loads on injuries through that stretch.
These are all valid points just being dismissed as "trolling" or whatever else cos nobody wants to answer them. United having a shit season or me not liking Arsenal doesn't effect their validity as much as people might say they do.
And I believe if Suarez hadn't missed the first six games that Liverpool would have won
I believe that if Aguero hadn't missed large parts of the season City would have won by more
I believe that if Chelsea had a competent striker they would have won
I believe that David Moyes is a football genius
It's all just... a bit redundant to discuss. We know that they're good players. What should be discussed is where Arsenal need to realistically strengthen, not "what ifs" based on the perennial fucking hilarity that is your medical team.
I think a 1080P version of that game saves the WiiU. E3 pls
Pitchside view of the Etihad during the title-winning celebrations?
Freewheelin'
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This is down to Wenger. Every single big match against the top 3 away, we didn't prepare properly. Wenger's fault entirely.
It is bullshit, the Wenger Out people started in February not March.
We paid 40m for 5 seasons though. Not much expecting him to come into a league where he has to play and carry a much heavier load and where everything is different. Kos was crap when he first arrived, Mertesacker was crap when he first arrived etc.. This coming season tells the story for me.
A much more fair and accurate gauge of him.
and this isn't the first time we were in the title race since 2011, it's the first time we were in the title race since 2008. 2011 we were never top of the table, iirc. look, we faded badly, that's why we didn't win the titlethanks we all got thatbut when you're top of the table for half of the season, that's got to count at least a little bit towards being in the title race.
also, I'm almost certain 79 points is a far larger points total than any other 4th place finisher... maybe in league history. this is not the same kind of 4th place finish of the past three seasons.
was chelsea not in the league title race because they lost key games in march and april? on one hand, Mou said they weren't and we have to take everything that he says as gospel because he's soooo hilarious and such a great troll.
on the other hand, they were clearly in the title race. but because it's Chelsea and because it's Mourinho, we'll give them the benefit of the doubt.
also, I'm almost certain 79 points is a far larger points total than any other 4th place finisher... maybe in league history. this is not the same kind of 4th place finish of the past three seasons.
was chelsea not in the league title race because they lost key games in march and april? on one hand, Mou said they weren't and we have to take everything that he says as gospel because he's soooo hilarious and such a great troll.
on the other hand, they were clearly in the title race. but because it's Chelsea and because it's Mourinho, we'll give them the benefit of the doubt.
The Chelsea game for example, embarrassing tactics by Wenger in that one.
KidA Seven
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It's not really a title challenge, but that's where they're coming from. Arsenal were out of the title race within a month in 2012 and 2013. They forgot what a title challenge was.
http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/premier-league/2012-2013/table/2012-09-30
http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/premier-league/2011-2012/table/2011-09-10
Thanks, allthough I hope I won't see anymore naked parts of Buscemi.
Every player is poor at times though out a season.
You aren't really saying anything.
Just realized if we win the FA Cup we tie Man U for most FA Cups.
How could he sign Ba when Mourinho said no?
Mate, I didn't say you were trolling just that you have a tendency to try and get a rise when it comes to Arsenal related stuff. Reason I'm not answering your posts is that it has nothing to do with your original post about us thinking we had a chance (and later the world away comment).
The price will hopefully be justified if he manages to builds upon this season. We'll get more from him if Wenger rotates better and if we have a better striker. Özil - Giroud is like Xavi - Francis Jeffers
You'll get an enhanced 1080p version and it's called X
I think a 1080P version of that game saves the WiiU. E3 pls
Would buy.
The Atticus
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I don't think it's any harsher than the other top teams receive - if it seems like I'm being dismissive about Arsenal fans' ambitions, it's because the same hypotheticals are thrown about every summer. I understand that you had injuries that sliced the squad to pieces, but throwing out wishes for an unscathed season is going to fall on deaf ears.
Hey, you're obviously free to discuss what you like, I just think Arsenal fans would be wiser focusing it on reasonable players to strengthen their side rather than the returning ones.
Disagree Guy
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Obligatory:
Wenger is a football genius
Wenger is a football genius
Arsenal's Mikel Arteta criticises Arsène Wenger's age-related contracts
Arteta making some solid points.
Arteta making some solid points.
Freewheelin'
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That was bad yeah. But we also had no answer in the Everton away and Liverpool away.
Obviously to the former. No brainer really. But I expected more from Ozil for the price we paid for him. £42m is a hell of a lot of money.
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