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Football Thread 2013/14 | OT3

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Can we talk seriously about Barca and defenders?

Who should we try and sign who will suit the system best. Is there any value defenders at the moment?


i honestly thin david luiz is the perfect defender for barcelona, seriously he loves going up, and last year in midfield he didnt do too bad,

but chelsea is not selling club, i think the whole of football world should know that by know, last we sold good players was injury prone robben who real payed 30 million for not bad,
 
Lost my first survivor. Feels bad man.

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Feorax

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Fuck that.

I love Masch, but Agger's more important.

PLS

I agree. We absolutely can't afford to let Agger go this window. He's far too important right now.

It's not like we need the money, or that Agger is likely to agitate for a move anyway.
 

LegoArmo

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I thought Barca's new manager would bring over some unknowns from South America instead of bidding for any high profile centre back in sight.
 

Meier

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David Silva was around £30m I think.
You didn't get revenge on Barca last time round?

Think he must have meant Thiago Silva.. he cost around €40m. David Silva was £24m but the comparison wouldn't make sense any way.

I thought Barca's new manager would bring over some unknowns from South America instead of bidding for any high profile centre back in sight.

Right after he was announced, there was a rumor he'd bring along a player from Newell's but I don't know if he was a CB. I looked him up at the time and I vaguely remember him being one.
 

Wilbur

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THE SUAREZ SAGA: PART 1

Moved from Ajax years ago
If only the present he could see
Being in Liverpool meant
Watching CL matches on TV

The poor cunt went mad
With no trophies in sight
Had to chew forearms
No silverware to bite

The pundits turned on him
After a series of stunts
The only people defending him
Are vampires and cunts

But a savoir appears
Arsenal makes a bid with intent
Liverpool laughs at the offer
Official response was: "get bent"

Suarez needs to be warned
Got the wrong idea about Arsenal
Last time they won a title
Katie Price was still virginal


This is stunning. Doing a shit. Laughing uproariously.
 

Feorax

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You have to assume the exclusive that will break in about 50 mins will be Liverpool's response following the events of the last 24 hours.

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EDIT: Maybe we're going to take action over a potential illegal approach? Fuck it, we have nothing to lose now.
 

Messi

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i honestly thin david luiz is the perfect defender for barcelona, seriously he loves going up, and last year in midfield he didnt do too bad,

but chelsea is not selling club, i think the whole of football world should know that by know, last we sold good players was injury prone robben who real payed 30 million for not bad,

Going forward is the problem. We need a defender who wants to defend. We have Alves and alba for going forward
 

ShogunX

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I'd bite Madrid's cock off.

Take a player the other way.

We're laughing.

Thing is if those cunts have been in the background this whole time they have played this brilliantly. Judging how Madrid normally do their work though through the media and players/ex players all chipping in this would be very unlike them.
 
Going forward is the problem. We need a defender who wants to defend. We have Alves and alba for going forward


really all depends on your manager, in la liga barcelona puts fear in everyone who plays them in that high preasure closing down football is excellent, but in champions league you pay for those mistakes, in my opinion barcelona has the worst defense in the top 10 clubs in europe, seriously pique is out of this world overrated. masch is lazy.

- didnt alves contract end and got released this summer? i thought it was over for him.
 

LTWheels

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Guardian posted this article just before 7pm. Has it been posted yet:

Luis Suárez: verbal assurances legally irrelevant in Premier League
Briefed by the top sports lawyer Ian Lynam, Louise Taylor examines the legalities around Luis Suárez's contract dispute


Q So who is telling the truth? Do Liverpool have to sell Luis Suárez because they have received an offer in excess of £40m or is that figure simply a trigger to begin, or merely consider, negotiating?

A We have not seen the contract so we are speculating and we do not know how much posturing is going on, possibly from both sides, but it is possible that it could contain a clause which is not legally enforceable. As players are such valuable assets, clubs really need to use specialist sports lawyers and Liverpool may well have done so but, equally, there have been cases of club secretaries drafting clauses at 11 o'clock at night that turn out to be not legally enforceable. Such clauses will not stand up in court.

What about the verbal assurances that Suárez believes he received from Liverpool, agreeing to let him leave if someone offered more than £40m?

Any such assurances are legally irrelevant as Premier League contracts contain something called an "entire agreement" clause which excludes, or overrides, all prior verbal agreements. Morally it is a different matter, of course.

Can Luis Suárez force his way out by submitting a transfer request?

It would not make any difference. The press always make a big thing of players potentially submitting transfer requests but they actually are a non-factor in football. In Suárez's case it all depends on a specific clause in his contract but generally, if a player is under contract, it is up to the club whether they sell or keep him. If a transfer request is issued, a player might lose part of a signing-on fee – these are usually paid in annual instalments – but, in the wider scheme of things, the amount of money forfeited would be relatively small and cancelled out by the financial benefits of being transferred.
 

Arnie

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A transfer request is definitely less than 48 hours away. Sounds like Luis has no legal leg to stand on, and to be honest Arsenal are probably in breach of article K, or whatever it is. I want us to fine Luis as much as is legally possible, make him for sale at the £40 million mark to any non-PL clubs, go after Arsenal for breaching article K (which they clearly have), and remind both Suarez and Arsenal that any deal they'd hoped to complete is further away than fucking Australia.

/Malcolm Tucker
 

Meier

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Yeah, a transfer request just means a player loses what's left on his loyalty bonus. In Suarez's case, that might be fairly significant since he is only in the 2nd year of his new deal -- the other concern is that Arsenal probably wouldn't pay him any more than he makes now which is surely well beyond their typical wage ceiling. He wouldn't necessarily make up for that lost bonus in wages but he may get some additional pay-out bonuses from the UCL appearances.
 

Feorax

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Yeah, a transfer request just means a player loses what's left on his loyalty bonus. In Suarez's case, that might be fairly significant since he is only in the 2nd year of his new deal -- the other concern is that Arsenal probably wouldn't pay him any more than he makes now which is surely well beyond their typical wage ceiling. He wouldn't necessarily make up for that lost bonus in wages but he may get some additional pay-out bonuses from the UCL appearances.

I'm pretty sure today's events have killed any minute remaining possibility of a sale to Arsenal.
 

Meier

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make him for sale at the £40 million mark to any non-PL clubs

Really, there are only a few clubs who could pay that much and none are probably in a position to do so (maybe PSG if they somehow unload Ibra). I think LFC will have to offer him at a cut rate price (£25-30m) to clubs outside England and just take what they can get if they do sell him.

Selling to Arsenal should be out of the question. Both teams are really only chasing 4th at best right now and giving AFC Suarez would mean LFC are that much further from the UCL.
 

L1NETT

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Will Arsenal get fined like Liverpool were for Ziege or a points penalty like Chelsea did? Or is it not that serious.

Or is it more inline with what Liverpool (again) did with Dempsey? I am not really clued up on the whole Suarez situation.
 

Feorax

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Will Arsenal get fined like Liverpool were for Ziege or a points penalty like Chelsea did? Or is it not that serious.

Or is it more inline with what Liverpool (again) did with Dempsey? I am not really clued up on the whole Suarez situation.

I think the £40,000,001 bid made it pretty blatant.
 

Showaddy

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Really, there are only a few clubs who could pay that much and none are probably in a position to do so (maybe PSG if they somehow unload Ibra). I think LFC will have to offer him at a cut rate price (£25-30m) to clubs outside England and just take what they can get if they do sell him.

Selling to Arsenal should be out of the question. Both teams are really only chasing 4th at best right now and giving AFC Suarez would mean LFC are that much further from the UCL.

You would have though Real Madrid would want Suarez instead of wasting £100 million on Bale, they definitely need a top class striker more than they need another winger.
 

ShogunX

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Luke Edwards ‏@LukeEdwardsTele 5m
A strong and impressive response from Brendan Rodgers in Oslo to Suarez interview. Quotes to follow later on Daily Telegraph website #lfc
 

Clegg

Member
Oh fuck off Woodward.

No way we'll sign both players for just £30m. If Fellaini's clause has expired then we'd be lucky to get him for that fee.
 

Feorax

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Luke Edwards ‏@LukeEdwardsTele 5m
A strong and impressive response from Brendan Rodgers in Oslo to Suarez interview. Quotes to follow later on Daily Telegraph website #lfc

I cannot wait.

The media seem to have shifted over to our side over the last 24 hours. Feels good man.
 
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