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Football Thread 2014/15 |OT1| - Mes Que Un... Community
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To the better. I know its hard to accept a change in habits but its business and its necessary. Schweini had to play in front of alonso, Bayern wouldnt offer him 12 million anymore. So he did the best and signed a deal that also gave him a proper role.
I understand we lost 2 german midfielders in the last two periods and its hard to deal with on an emotional level, but we lacked pace and determination, that is why we lost pretty badly to teams like Real and Barcelona.
This is what the club tries to change and we as supporters should at least trust in them. Bayern saw what was wrong last season, learned and react now. Vidal is no replacement for Schweinsteiger, but the player we need to switch faster from defence to attack.
Yes m8. We should remember what happened after 2001 when we missed the transition.
Nicktendo86
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So what?
We have tax evaders, smugglers, sex with underages, etc.
We are not some holy church for high horse morale prayers. We are a profit making sports club and people have faults but as long as they deliver on a sports level one rotten egg is acceptable. Vidal is worldclass and his abilities help us immediately.
That's just sad
Arsenal still needs a world class DM. Vidal would have been a great improvement, but as the cunt he is, he is better off joining Pep.
-------------------Cech
Bellerin - Merte - Kos - Gibbs/Monreal
----------Ramsey - New DM
-----Sanchez - Özil - Cazorla
------------------Giroud
Even though Coquelin did a good job we need to improve this position the most. Arteta and Flamini are old and do not have what it takes to compete for the title.
Afterwards we could talk about an upgrade to Giroud. Our Defense has been solid for the last years and will be even better with Cech behind them and the quality of our attacking midfield should be undoubted.
-------------------Cech
Bellerin - Merte - Kos - Gibbs/Monreal
----------Ramsey - New DM
-----Sanchez - Özil - Cazorla
------------------Giroud
Even though Coquelin did a good job we need to improve this position the most. Arteta and Flamini are old and do not have what it takes to compete for the title.
Afterwards we could talk about an upgrade to Giroud. Our Defense has been solid for the last years and will be even better with Cech behind them and the quality of our attacking midfield should be undoubted.
lol I feel this fight between Van gaal and Valdes is unnecessary, especially when the goalkeeping situation is uncertain.
Mr. Luchador
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Well, I made my first run for this season's Fantasy Football Farce.
He was always injured for me on Football Manager, so forever his reputation will be tarnished.
He was always injured for me on Football Manager, so forever his reputation will be tarnished.
WadiumArcadium
Member
Well, I made my first run for this season's Fantasy Football Farce.
He was always injured for me on Football Manager, so forever his reputation will be tarnished.
I doubt Bony will start that regularly for City. I'd replace him with someone who's going to play every game personally.
Need to set mine up at some point.
Mr. Luchador
Member
Yeah, I wasn't sure about Bony, but then... Aguererrerererooooooooooooooooooooooo! gets injured a fair bit. I could probably swap a few million around and get ROOOOOOOOOOOONEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! up front instead.
velociraptor
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Arsenal are going to do terrible this season if Wenger does not sign any offensive players. We could also use a defensive midfielder and a centre back.
Man Utd have improved significantly but it pains me to see Wenger not doing anything in the transfer market. He even suggested Wilshere is a perfectly valid wide option
:maximum facepalm:
The obsession of playing players out of position continues. G zuz.
Man Utd have improved significantly but it pains me to see Wenger not doing anything in the transfer market. He even suggested Wilshere is a perfectly valid wide option
:maximum facepalm:
The obsession of playing players out of position continues. G zuz.
I am with you there.
He is never going to get along with Pep. He is another Mandzukic, Ibra, etc.
Also, in this particular case, a player I never wanted to see at Bayern.
I'd rather lose the semi-final again with Kimmich,Hojbjerg.
Now Juve is interested in Draxler. Gotta say, I'd rather have Draxler.
But I guess they are going all-in for Pep to win the CL this year. I just hope he leaves after this season, as a winner or as a failure.
Also, I can't believe the news brought fuenf out of retirement. Hi fuenf, hope you are well.
You are not wrong. Vidal will probably help us immensly, but that doesn't mean I have to like him. I mean I don't even like Ribery. (Basically this would be like buying Pepe. I've despised him for so long, I don't want to see him in a Bayern shirt)
I just also feel that Bayern is losing its identity. The CL win meant more because Alaba, Müller, Lahm, Schweini were essential players in it. I don't want to win it the Real way.
GHG
Gold Member
Oh calm down would you.
The only position I'd have down as urgent at the moment is defensive midfield in case coquelin gets injured (god help us if we have to play Flamini/Arteta).
A striker better than Giroud would also be nice, but not urgent as Theo and Welbeck can play there - if Cavani/benzema/ibrahimovic are available then we should move for them. But we are not desperate so we don't need to spend a ton of money on someone like Benteke/lacazette. Neither of those fit our system/style of play, nor are they an immediate upgrade on Giroud.
At centre back we are well stocked with Mertesaker, Koscielney, Gabriel and Chambers so don't see a need there.
It's as if the last 6 month of last season never happened with the way some of our fan base are going on at the moment. We can't sign everyone just because they happen to be available or are moving to rival clubs. We need the right personnel who fit our system and don't upset the balance in our current squad.
The most important thing moving into next season is having everyone fit and keeping them fit. Chelsea proved last year that you don't need a huge squad to win the league, you just need a cohesive 1st team and to keep them fit throughout the season in order to be consistent.
I think what Woodward has shown with the negotiations with Real is that we won't roll over for them and let them take our best player again for less than a world record fee. De Gea will be motivated because he wants to play in the Euros, even if he is the best Spanish keeper by default really.
A year with De Gea potentially winning us the league/FA Cup (and a good shot at the CL) is better than a year without him.
Steverulez
Member
A few papers saying we want Axel Witsel and Roman will do the negotiating himself (like he did for Willian/Eto'o)
Also, Filipe Luis back to Atletico next week it seems
Also, Filipe Luis back to Atletico next week it seems
WadiumArcadium
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The S*n were saying United were buying him according to the BBC's gossip column. Can't believe we're fighting with United for Benteke.
Ha, that was a brief holiday.
You forgot Rode?
Steverulez
Member
New shirt was just shown... in the most cringeworthy video ever. Interesting that RLC is in it though
https://amp.twimg.com/v/74845051-5d4e-43de-a316-a991a33f9b8e
Bigger picture not loading on the site yet but basically, its blue
https://amp.twimg.com/v/74845051-5d4e-43de-a316-a991a33f9b8e
Bigger picture not loading on the site yet but basically, its blue
WadiumArcadium
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Our new away kit was shown today as well. It's not too shabby.
Confrontation
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Sports Witness posted a tweet that HLN say the claims of United wanting Benteke came from Aston Villa sources and could just be trying to pressure Liverpool.
Who knows. It is a lot of money for Beneteke but if he can handle the jump to a big club he could bang in 15-20 goals for either club.
Confrontation
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http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/1301/Premi...rpool-betaalt-46-5-miljoen-voor-Benteke.dhtml (Dutch)
As good as official. Benteke would be the most expensive Belgian player in history as well (but probably not for very long). Also, Genk would get 15% from this transfer as well.
As good as official. Benteke would be the most expensive Belgian player in history as well (but probably not for very long). Also, Genk would get 15% from this transfer as well.
WadiumArcadium
Member
Urgh. 32.5 million for Benteke is as stupid as 49 million for Sterling.
Steverulez
Member
Glorious
Wouldn't that be great Linius, you know you want it too.
Ok, I see your point but do you seriously think Thiago, Lewandowski, Alaba or Müller would stay if we are knocked out in group stage of CL? Vidal plays a position only Thiago and Lahm are playing. Gaudino is years away and Hojbjerg has only Kimmich and Alonso to battle for the 6. Bayern and Pep want to win the CL again with this generation of players at any cost and if you look at our 14 starters, its possibly the strongest squad Bayern ever had, maybe the best European one for decades.
And why do we lose identity? We bought a worldclass player that Real would buy for at least 60 million for 35 million. We kept our wages low. Sold a club legend without leaving bad blood. Bayern does what they always did: Building a squad that is highly competitive in all tournaments without the insane money that others invest.
The lack of talented youngsters is because the volume 95-2000 was pretty average. Happens sometimes.
brokenbeans
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MisterRoboto
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AC Milan News ‏@Milanello · 2h2 hours ago
Mediaset claims that Liverpool have offered 15m for Menez.
Please be true
Mediaset claims that Liverpool have offered 15m for Menez.
Please be true
The_Hitcher89
Member
Spending extra now to make sure that we don't have to panic-buy at the end of the window, or have to spend the season with a choice of Ings and Origi up front since an available Sturridge will be a bonus.
As with Sterling, the proof will be in the pudding. There's no reason that Benteke couldn't score 15+ league goals for us in which case he'd be worth it imo, and Sterling will be worth more than £50m in a couple of years if he develops properly.
Also have to consider that we're not just paying for a striker, we're paying for an improvement over a group of players who were frankly abysmal last year. Christ, he could score 5 league goals and that'd be a gargantuan improvement over what we had last year
On the face of it think £32.5m is probably overpriced by about £7.5m (a 1 in 2 record across 3 seasons is nothing to sniff at) and I'm happy enough paying over the odds for it, even if its a lot less safe than you'd hope for with that much money involved. Who are the safe strikers available to a team outside the CL though, with no guarantee that we'll be back in it any time soon?
Ape Gone Insane
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Good outcome, would rather have Liverpool fall on their swords than United and this may direct them to better striker signings.
bonesmccoy
Banned
Benteke. :/
I guess the belief is that Sturridge is too busted to ever complete a full season, and that Balotelli is beyond useless.
Which are both probably true.
I guess the belief is that Sturridge is too busted to ever complete a full season, and that Balotelli is beyond useless.
Which are both probably true.
WadiumArcadium
Member
If he gets decent service, he will score goals. It's just the fee that makes me wince.
RagingPhoenix
Neo Member
Depressing that our fabled transfer committee couldn't look past Benteke as our top target, depressing & beyond criminal.
bonesmccoy
Banned
^^^^^Wait, didnt they? Ings and Firmino?
Heh I just remembered Borini is still around.
Heh I just remembered Borini is still around.
RagingPhoenix
Neo Member
I meant for the ST position. Pardon me but I find it a little hard to stomach that we have no other option but to spend 32.5 million on him. Wages is the be all & end all for us.
Guess its the last roll of the dice for Rodgers, hope for our sakes it works
Guess its the last roll of the dice for Rodgers, hope for our sakes it works
Spending extra now to make sure that we don't have to panic-buy at the end of the window, or have to spend the season with a choice of Ings and Origi up front since an available Sturridge will be a bonus.
As with Sterling, the proof will be in the pudding. There's no reason that Benteke couldn't score 15+ league goals for us in which case he'd be worth it imo, and Sterling will be worth more than £50m in a couple of years if he develops properly.
Also have to consider that we're not just paying for a striker, we're paying for an improvement over a group of players who were frankly abysmal last year. Christ, he could score 5 league goals and that'd be a gargantuan improvement over what we had last year
On the face of it think £32.5m is probably overpriced by about £7.5m (a 1 in 2 record across 3 seasons is nothing to sniff at) and I'm happy enough paying over the odds for it, even if its a lot less safe than you'd hope for with that much money involved. Who are the safe strikers available to a team outside the CL though, with no guarantee that we'll be back in it any time soon?
this looks like a panic buy though. You're paying way over the odds because you can and because Man Utd are interested.
Rodgers was out today saying Liverpool can still attract big players and this feel like him buying that promise not proving it.
They seem to just buy names now instead of actually thinking about the team. I wonder how you go about choosing Lambert, Balotelli and Benteke to replace Suarez and Sterling. What's the thinking behind this?
RagingPhoenix
Neo Member
Any truth in those Lewandowski rumours?
Ape Gone Insane
Member
Can't see Bayern giving up their strongest and main striker (especially one who is easily world class and up there with Suarez) and after they said there would be no more transfers to United this window.
I think there's more chance of Cavani or Kane happening. As long as it's not Higuain. Lacazette is a bit of a risk.
Bayern have no other proven striker. I doubt they'd sell Lewandowski.
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