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Football Thread 2014/15 |OT1| - Mes Que Un... Community
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Confrontation
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Heynckens wanted to take Vidal with him to Bayern from Leverkusen back in 2011. Vidal really wanted to go to Bayern as well. Which would've been much cheaper for em back in the day.
But Leverkusen wanted to see him go abroad and Hoeness screwed around too long. Juve swooped in to get him and made a nice 30mil profit off him.
Steverulez
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Shame we're going to pay extra to reimburse them for overpaying on the Lukaku deal but never mind.
Stones will need a cool nickname if he is to play with Happy, Dave and possibly Alan (Rahman, I'm bringing it in)
in the end bayern won the cl and made more final appearances than bayer and juve combined.
we did well
Think a lot of people don't realize that Fernando started 30 games for City last year. Pretty Certain Delph will go ahead of him in the pecking order (hopefully we can offload him to Russia or something).
Confrontation
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I'd say you did, but it was a nice little tidbit I thought I'd share.
WadiumArcadium
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That Delph u-turn is odd - wonder why he changed his mind.
toythatkills
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"So Fabian, you just got your dream move to Manchester City, you must be delighted?"
"... yes."
"... yes."
His reasoning is that his initial decision to stay at Villa was based completely on emotion and feelings and it sort of clouded what footballing opportunity lay ahead with City. Thus, the u-turn was done.
The reality is that if they don't spend the Benteke money wisely and get a player who can replace his goals, they'll probably be headed for the drop. Delph could either go down with the ship or move to a Champions League team.. kind of a no-brainer. Do feel terrible for the fans though because of the statement he made last week. I think without it, people wouldn't really begrudge him, but obviously he came off looking very poorly here.
That article only tells half the story, namely that Bayern felt betrayed by Vidal and Rummenigge later said he didn't want players like him at the club. Now some pretend that it was all just a misunderstanding. Bullshit.
See e.g. this article, where Hoeneß is quoted that Vidal "has broken his word".
the prestige of sitting on a big clubs bench, what an opportunity.
WadiumArcadium
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Ha, that's what I was thinking as well.
Confrontation
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I'm not saying anything about betrayal. All I said is that Bayern would've had a chance at Vidal in 2011 at a much lower price because Heyckens wanted to take him with him and Vidal was very interested as well. In the end Leverkusen can still say 'fuck you' to Bayern and sell him to someone else and Vidal is free to accept that offer.
brokenbeans
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Gotta snap up them English players... I want stones!
WadiumArcadium
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The_Hitcher89
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Nah, Sterling is worse
Press briefings timed to cause the most disruption, backfiring interviews, refusal to join the preseason tour, phoning in sick like an immature little tit
Basically an archetype in how to turn the fans against you and make yourself so hated, the relationship with the club is unworkable
bonesmccoy
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Hard times for Villa. Should have put in a much higher release fee clause. 9m seems like a bargain for an English player.
Re Bundesliga's overseas popularity, its still stupidly hard to get those games on TV here (Canada). They're all stuck on ludicrously priced speciality channels. PL by contrast has been available on the main networks for as long as I can remember.
Re Bundesliga's overseas popularity, its still stupidly hard to get those games on TV here (Canada). They're all stuck on ludicrously priced speciality channels. PL by contrast has been available on the main networks for as long as I can remember.
We need a Netflix exclusively for football, man. A lot of red tape, major problems with licensing and prying the rights from the bigwigs but a guy can dream.
Steverulez
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His contract was up in June, he could have left for free, instead he signed a new deal and Villa got £8m they wouldn't have got otherwise.
It was actually nice of him to sign a new contract but... ultimately the way he's gone about this move has been fairly poorly handled tbh.
bonesmccoy
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MLBtv for the Bundesliga.
True regarding the new deal he signed. Still harsh for Villa. They need to make some major signings now.
True regarding the new deal he signed. Still harsh for Villa. They need to make some major signings now.
The_Hitcher89
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2011 was a different market. Of course he was cheaper, because he hadn't reached worldclass at that time and if we look at prices EPL is paying for average players, then Bayern made a bargain with Vidal. I couldn't care less about the back story, Rummenigge does what is best for the club.
A year after that Bayern bought Martinez, a key for the treble and now the clubs most versatlie player as he will be the game opening CB who goes into DM when in posession. I remember many "fans" being worried and questioned Bayerns board how they could spend 40 million euro for a no name but praised fucking Bender... just shows how little knowledge many of our supporters have.
Vidals transfer has two purposes: Eliminating the vulnerability of counters with his pace and physique and most important: winning balls by intercepting and attacking in the opponents half to start quick counters. Pep wants to play faster and more vertical. Posession does not mean slow build up, on the contrary and that is why Vidal and possibly Di Maria will lift this Bayern team to the closest what Pep imagines.
Kroos, Schweinsteiger and Alonso are incredible players with insane technique and skill and work perfectly as holding midfielders but they all lack pace and non of them is able to press or counter press, which is essential if you play tikitaka.
As per the previous discussion about media briefing on the last page, looks as if United are in for Pedro now. Both Ogden and Jackson are running with it, reputable sources for the club who are both on the tour in Seattle.
Here's a picture of Ed with the press, allegedly:
I wouldn't mind Pedro actually, can always do with another pacy winger/wide forward. Gives competition to Di Maria and Depay, is fairly versatile, makes sense.
I'd welcome him, too. But I'd be inclined to think that it could mean that Di Maria's on the way to PSG. Given our midfield options and the fact that Di Maria's better as a wide-left CM whilst Pedro can play wide and is used to a more possession-based 4-3-3 (which we'll presumably play) it might mean he'll go. I don't want it to happen, though. We need world class talents like him.
PrematureQuiche
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Chelsea gave Cuadrado the #11 it looks like. I guess he'll stay and Pedro will end up at United/elsewhere. Salah is definitely gone though.
The_Hitcher89
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Martinez a no-name? He was the hottest DM on the market iirc
I wouldn't mind Pedro actually, can always do with another pacy winger/wide forward. Gives competition to Di Maria and Depay, is fairly versatile, makes sense.
Okay, okay, Jackson is a bit of mug, and it's likely he's the journo that van Gaal had a go at. Still, he's there. :3
LabouredSubterfuge
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Manchester Club
The_Hitcher89
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Can't decide between getting the new white liverpool kit or FINALLY getting myself a USA kit.
Any input guys?
Liverpool
Can't decide between getting the new white liverpool kit or FINALLY getting myself a USA kit.
Any input guys?
Liverpool if you're fit. USA if you're fat.
I've put off getting a US jersey for 6 years already though(mostly because there hasn't been any player that I have confidence in). And I really like this years design.
I always get my jerseys in Youth XL because I like them a little snug, so what does that tell ya.
Infernostew
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Women's team kit? ugh... As much as it pains me to say, go with the pool kit.
privitsan02
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I want to get the Liverpool Away kit but over $120... Yeah, I think I'll wait it out...
I'm not getting a women's one, but for some reason they're putting the stars on the men's version too. No idea why.
In my case getting the youth version and not getting the epl badges helps with the cost.
Infernostew
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Hmm... Go with the USA i guess.
Can't decide between getting the new white liverpool kit or FINALLY getting myself a USA kit.
Any input guys?
Gonna be a rough season for Liverpool. Go USA.
Pretty sure we wore our thirds once last season?
Kurt Angle
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bonesmccoy
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Not sure I like the New Balance logo on those kits.
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