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Football Thread 2014/15 |OT1| Wes to make an awesome 2014-2015 OT1
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Vivalaraza
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Clyne was injured for a couple of months iirc. Chambers looked very very good when he played the couple of times I saw him, motored up and down. Looks good.
HotHamWater
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He was actually.
Doesn't mean he's a bad player, but Clyne retook the position when he regained fitness.
Shaw is better because he's a MANITED player tho.
LabouredSubterfuge
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And it was heard through the grapevine!
I also heard that Ramsey is a more promising prospect than Herrera.
Several games Chambers kept Clyne on the bench. The kid is very talented, he is a very good signing.
Not going go get into a Shaw comparison though, Those are pisstakes opinions that have no purpose but to set wind ups against one another. Pointless.
Not really.
Both young ex-Southampton fullbacks moving in the same window that were bound to be compared. Was something that I kept running into when I was looking him up.
Could develop into a starter, easily. Good physical tools, a damn good cross. Just needs games. With Sagna ahead of him, he's struggled to shake off the rust in the few chances he's gotten the past season.
Ronaldinho - Eto - Messi
----- Deco - Xavi -----
------- Marquez -----
Gio (?) - Puyol - Milito - Thuram
Not sure if that was the usual defence but the attack was amazing to watch. Those games between Barca and Chelsea were brilliant. Young Messi @ Stamford Bridge vs Ashley Cole. Ronaldinho doing what he does. Memories :*)
Mr.Marston
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Jenkinson's crosses are so good even Bendtner couldn't miss.
Should be fun when we play Man U if they both start.
Hmm will keep an eye out this season. Especially on his defending. Good crossing is a +.
Vivalaraza
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Jenkinson actually improved a lot in the last couple of years.
No. Him using it as a sick to beat religion with was, though. In the most pompous way possible.
Yeah, it was a shame he couldn't make it.
Yeah, apparently the club wouldn't/didn't give him permission to play which is pretty shit.
edit: Wait, I read that somewhere earlier...it seems he missed his flight? looooool only ronnie.
Willkiller
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Religion needs to beaten with every stick we can find
One thing Arse bros. Would you rather Chambers or that noodle from Atletico on loan? lol
Jenkinson? His defensive discipline is where I lose all patience with this guy. His attacking raids are excellent but is positioning is poor, reading of the game is poor and is not developing nearly fast enough. Whether that's Arsenal's own fault or player just never up for it I am unsure but Jenkinson came in from Charlton having only played like 22 games or something. No where near the level required. Loan him to build experience and to increase his sale fee or just get rid of him now I say.
Jenkinson? His defensive discipline is where I lose all patience with this guy. His attacking raids are excellent but is positioning is poor, reading of the game is poor and is not developing nearly fast enough. Whether that's Arsenal's own fault or player just never up for it I am unsure but Jenkinson came in from Charlton having only played like 22 games or something. No where near the level required. Loan him to build experience and to increase his sale fee or just get rid of him now I say.
You can cross Vlaar off that list. When Lambert says we won't sell , we won't sell. Simple as that.
LabouredSubterfuge
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Hope so. Don't want him.
Hummels m8
I wouldn't worry. You are safe from Vlaar infestation.
He is literally the difference between us staying up or not (as the stats show). Lambert knows this.KidA Seven
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What's more depressing is that after losing the Pogtrayer we lost Daehli. I thought Daehli was talented, but not in that bracket that Pogba, Januzaj, and Ravel were in. Thought he was just below that with James Wilson. His development over the past year is amazing.
Another blemish Fergie had with the youth team in his last years. Fergie and Paul McGuinness took too long to recognize what caliber of talent they had on their hands. If you compare to Liverpool, they have 16 and 17 year olds playing for the u21s while United don't seem to want to do that. Januzaj didn't start playing reserve football until he was about 18. Almost the same with Pogba and Ravel. Daehli didn't even play reserve football at 18. That is the reason why I think he ultimately left United. He felt impatient, as Pogba did. Despite being u18 player of the year he didn't get the call up to u21. A year later and he's doing well in the PL.
Each of those talents have proven their talent was above that level within a year. Ravel less so, but only because of his attitude.
Fergie essentially messed up another class of 92-94 (although foreign) coming through the ranks. Fuck.
Great piece of skill from Daehli. An example of his close control that he possesses. He has amazing close control that along with his intelligence could be a really dangerous player in the future. He might even be a better player than Januzaj in the future because he has more tools to work with.
Another blemish Fergie had with the youth team in his last years. Fergie and Paul McGuinness took too long to recognize what caliber of talent they had on their hands. If you compare to Liverpool, they have 16 and 17 year olds playing for the u21s while United don't seem to want to do that. Januzaj didn't start playing reserve football until he was about 18. Almost the same with Pogba and Ravel. Daehli didn't even play reserve football at 18. That is the reason why I think he ultimately left United. He felt impatient, as Pogba did. Despite being u18 player of the year he didn't get the call up to u21. A year later and he's doing well in the PL.
Each of those talents have proven their talent was above that level within a year. Ravel less so, but only because of his attitude.
Fergie essentially messed up another class of 92-94 (although foreign) coming through the ranks. Fuck.
Great piece of skill from Daehli. An example of his close control that he possesses. He has amazing close control that along with his intelligence could be a really dangerous player in the future. He might even be a better player than Januzaj in the future because he has more tools to work with.
Mr.Marston
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Lacks concentration. Needs a loan and some first team experience badly.
Think Van Gaal would have liked himWhat's more depressing is that after losing the Pogtrayer we lost Daehli. I thought Daehli was talented, but not in that bracket that Pogba, Januzaj, and Ravel were in. Thought he was just below that with James Wilson. His development over the past year is amazing.
Another blemish Fergie had with the youth team in his last years. Fergie and Paul McGuinness took too long to recognize what caliber of talent they had on their hands. If you compare to Liverpool, they have 16 and 17 year olds playing for the u21s while United don't seem to want to do that. Januzaj didn't start playing reserve football until he was about 18. Almost the same with Pogba and Ravel. Daehli didn't even play reserve football at 18. That is the reason why I think he ultimately left United. He felt impatient, as Pogba did. Despite being u18 player of the year he didn't get the call up to u21. A year later and he's doing well in the PL.
Each of those talents have proven their talent was above that level within a year. Ravel less so, but only because of his attitude.
Fergie essentially messed up another class of 92-94 (although foreign) coming through the ranks. Fuck.
Great piece of skill from Daehli. An example of his close control that he possesses. He has amazing close control that along with his intelligence could be a really dangerous player in the future. He might even be a better player than Januzaj in the future because he has more tools to work with.
I don't see how. And I normally hate the guy. Yeah, it's a fairly standard argument about God that he posted, but most of his followers are probably idiots that have never considered it before.
We should have Henry talk to him. Too bad Vieira fucked off to City and works for them now or we could have him seal the deal. If we actually signed Pogba, the entirety of the Emirates should do this for Wenger at the next home match:
Jenkinson is 22 years old. He needs to be better for his age then what he is. I still reckon he'd make a better right winger than a right back. Bags of pace, can cross nice, plenty of energy to track back and would just need to work on his link up play and shooting. His defending is just terrible.
He was largely to blame for Chelsea knocking us out of the Capital One cup.
Heebie Jeebies
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"Qué?"
Manquillo is a better talent than Chambers, and he'll be half the price when we buy him.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Now that's a good one. You said we had no chance at signing Chambers, remember? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
HotHamWater
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You're right, ESPN Brazil are saying Mineiro gave him a release to miss 3 training sessions and a match on Sunday, but he managed to miss the flight to Portugal.
Vivalaraza
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HotHamWater
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Stolen from the comments; "she already jumped, the others are riding her shockwave."
Willkiller
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HHHNNNGGG
KidA Seven
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Wilson got to play for the u21s and the FA youth cup. Same with Pereira and Janko. Ravel and Pogba should have played a majority of their games at u21 apart from FA youth cup matches. Daehli didn't play u21 football for United. Got 3 sub appearances at the end of matches. Never given a chance.
Daehli proved that he was above u21 level football last season. I think Wilson has done the same now, but in the Januzaj route. Both player at 18 years old were given u21 football and outclassed everyone at that level. Maybe Daehli would have done the same, I think so after his last year. We'll never know now.
Young foreign talents are more prone to being impatient because they are comfortable leaving England.
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