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[Arnie]

Yea, I quite like New Balance gear.

To answer your question Maddox it'll have to fit stylistically with the brand. Warrior went a specific route with their branding that I don't think fits with New Balance as a brand.

Hopefully this signals a return to simpler designs, ala our first kit under Warrior which remains a fucking sumptuous strip.

 

[Meier]

You would never see City give a the likes of a Flanagan a chance because he impressed in training.

This whole mindset is so ridiculous. The only reason Sterling and Flanagan got chances is because Liverpool had a pretty shitty team and were nowhere near the top 4 for a handful of seasons. You wouldn't see City do this because City don't have garbage players that they're desperate to replace and aren't having disastrous transfer windows leaving them with no budget to buy replacements. Liverpool have just gone and spent nearly £100m and are still spending. You won't see Liverpool do it again any time soon either because they now have an expectation of success.

 

[Bold One]

UnitedGaf, if you had to pick one


Di Maria or Vidal

 

[Broder Salsa]

UnitedGaf, if you had to pick one


Di Maria or Vidal

Any United supporters going for Di Maria there is crazy. Di Maria would be yet another winger/10'er for them, he's great, but not what they need. Vidal would go into a position they desperately lack not just depth, but a decent starter next to the new 25 year old prospect.

 

[The_Hitcher89]

If they're well funded and what not, why was the club irrelevant for nearly a decade? Surely that amazing youth contingent would have helped out. And yeah they have more of an interest - because they have less money to spend. I don't buy the argument that Liverpool are inherently in favour of developing young players, especially not in this age where short term success is much more important.

Because while it was well-funded, it wasn't particularly well-staffed or organised. Plus we share local talent with Everton who also have a lot of focus on their youth teams, and our catchment area includes Machester iirc

Are you honestly happy with the difficulty Chelsea youngsters have in getting a chance to prove themselves even in preseason?

 

[Maddox]

Can't afford to keep mid table trash like Cleverley, Evans and Welbeck around forever just because they are from the academy, that's what midtable teams do, not a team about to win CL and the home league.

There would of been no shame in selling those players last season, they all had a good enough run. Knowing when to cut them loose is important too i suppose.

I'm a bit gutted Ibe didn't get a chance at a premier league club this season, i think he is good enough.

 

[Diablo Rosso]

UnitedGaf, if you had to pick one


Di Maria or Vidal

Vidal. No question.

 

[The_Hitcher89]

Meier, Sterling would have been given a chance at any team that has a manager with a brain cell. He'd perhaps have struggled to get back in the team like he did last December, but he'd have been given the initial chance.

If he wouldn't have, it'd be pointless for such a club to have an academy structure,as you'd expect way too much from the youth players before giving them their breakthrough

 

[Steverulez]

Because while it was well-funded, it wasn't particularly well-staffed or organised. Plus we share local talent with Everton who also have a lot of focus on their youth teams, and our catchment area includes Machester iirc

Are you honestly happy with the difficulty Chelsea youngsters have in getting a chance to prove themselves even in preseason?

Plenty of our youngsters got a good amount of game time in pre-season? Jose has been pleased with some of them and as preseason progressed we loaned some out as we got nearer to the start of the season.

The young lads had a good preseason

 

[brokenbeans]

UnitedGaf, if you had to pick one


Di Maria or Vidal

Vidal.

 

[Kill3r7]

UnitedGaf, if you had to pick one


Di Maria or Vidal

Vidal (total pipe dream). Short of getting another CB, United aren't setup to play 4-3-3 at the moment. Vidal would be a better fit in a 3-5-2 system.

I guess one could make the argument that Di Maria now and Strootman in January is the better option. (I would agree with this)

 

[The_Hitcher89]

Plenty of our youngsters got a good amount of game time in pre-season? Jose has been pleased with some of them and as preseason progressed we loaned some out as we got nearer to the start of the season.

The young lads had a good preseason

Damn, forgot you played like twice as many preseason games as everyone else

Assume they got the first 3 then the first team got the others?

 

[Clegg]

Real United fans choose Di Maria.

 

[Perfect Blue]

Because while it was well-funded, it wasn't particularly well-staffed or organised. Plus we share local talent with Everton who also have a lot of focus on their youth teams, and our catchment area includes Machester iirc

Are you honestly happy with the difficulty Chelsea youngsters have in getting a chance to prove themselves even in preseason?

I have a love/hate relationship on the whole thing. I like to believe that if the manager thought some of those kids are good enough for the senior team, then they would play. But then at the same time there's someone like Sturridge who is really good that we let slip and goes off to become a star elsewhere.

Ultimately I think it's a gamble in terms of who is talented or not to make it and a club like Chelsea who aims for short term success (though Mourinho now claims otherwise) don't want to risk seeing if a youth player is good enough. And I'm okay with that I guess, I have no affinity towards those kids because come on, they make way more money than I do lol. I'm not English so I couldn't care less about developing English players for the NT.

 

[LabouredSubterfuge]

Rojo gets the 5 shirt.

 

[sohois]

This whole mindset is so ridiculous. The only reason Sterling and Flanagan got chances is because Liverpool had a pretty shitty team and were nowhere near the top 4 for a handful of seasons. You wouldn't see City do this because City don't have garbage players that they're desperate to replace and aren't having disastrous transfer windows leaving them with no budget to buy replacements. Liverpool have just gone and spent nearly £100m and are still spending. You won't see Liverpool do it again any time soon either because they now have an expectation of success.

Except that even with all the new arrivals this season, you will very likely see more Liverpool youngsters being given debuts and chances in the league. What is more, we don't even need to just use Liverpool. Even with their supremely successful league team, Man Utd frequently gave opportunities to their young players and Arsenal likewise.

So your point about the mindset being ridiculous is frankly completely wrong.

Additional point re: the picture of youth tournament 'winners' of last season: I haven't looked at this in great detail, but there appears to be basically no correlation between on pitch 'success' for youth teams and actual success in bringing players through. There are some high profile examples of youth cup winning teams putting several players through, but in general the winners of u-15 leagues and u -19 tournaments and what not have no effect on increasing players brought through.

 

[LegoArmo]

Maribor fans are loud.

 

[Meier]

Meier, Sterling would have been given a chance at any team that has a manager with a brain cell. He'd perhaps have struggled to get back in the team like he did last December, but he'd have been given the initial chance.

If he wouldn't have, it'd be pointless for such a club to have an academy structure,as you'd expect way too much from the youth players before giving them their breakthrough

He probably would have been loaned out for a season or two if he was at a different club who was challenging for a top spot.

 

[Hasphat'sAnts]

UnitedGaf, if you had to pick one


Di Maria or Vidal

Vidal: Best Midfielder Alive.

Di Maria: Runs a lot.

Tought choice!

 

[pulga]

Ok Madrid-GAF, give me a guess on how likely Falcao seems, and what it would entail if he did go.

why the fuck should we know anything

hey UnitedGAF, give me a guess on how likely Balotelli seems, and what it would entail if he did go

 

[Clegg]

Rojo gets the 5 shirt.

I don't like this business of printing the whole name on the back. We've done the same with Herrera.

 

[omgkitty]

Vidal: Best Midfielder Alive.

Di Maria: Runs a lot.

Tought choice!

 

[3Sixty]

Lol Maribor

How can you lose to a team that shouldn't even be there

 

[LegoArmo]

That might quieten them down.

 

[LabouredSubterfuge]

I don't like this business of printing the whole name on the back. We've done the same with Herrera.

I prefer it to this Chicharito type shite.

Surely it's by player request when it comes down to it.

 

[Bold One]

 

[L1NETT]

Can't afford to keep mid table trash like Cleverley, Evans and Welbeck around forever just because they are from the academy, that's what midtable teams do, not a team about to win CL and the home league.

The examples across Europe are slapping you round the gob of teams who are successful based on strong home grown cores. City are trying it, Arsenal have gone back on what they were. Man United,Muinch, Barcelona, Juve, Ajax etc etc

If you think this stickerbook fantasy where smaller clubs are artificially propelled through financial doping is the model everyone should follow you are so lost

 

[pulga]

I don't like this business of printing the whole name on the back. We've done the same with Herrera.

Do you guys charge more by the letter to print it on kits? If yes, Woodward is a bloody GENIUS

 

[brokenbeans]

We are not getting either player.

United's business is done.

I'm not even gonna be on GAF or watch SSN on deadline day, pointless.

 

[3Sixty]

Rojo is never playing CB in this league.

Look at him ffs.

 

[The_Hitcher89]

He probably would have been loaned out for a season or two if he was at a different club who was challenging for a top spot.

And therein lies part of the genius of Ferguson

He'd have found room in the schedule to actually get a good first-hand look at such a talent in his own team while still fighting for the title

Spoiler

which is why the way Pogba left is so bizarre

 

[fuenf]

Rojo gets the 5 shirt.

already having regrets?

 

[Hasphat'sAnts]

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You're grasping at straws if you don't think Vidal's the best atm.

Modric and Yaya are in the conversation. After that, huge drop.

 

[Gareth Bale]

I prefer it to this Chicharito type shite.

Surely it's by player request when it comes down to it.

If I was running a football club there'd been none of that. Last name only. Don't care how many names you have.

 

[figadapaura]

brilliant

 

[jesalr]

I want Depay at Spurs so much. I think it's just because there's a new article about him and Spurs every day. That atop him tearing the Eredivisie a new one.

 

[Abraxas]

why the fuck should we know anything

hey UnitedGAF, give me a guess on how likely Balotelli seems, and what it would entail if he did go

Come on plug, you know what I mean. Surely you have a better understanding of your team than I do, Do you think it could happen? And if it did would Benzema leave/

 

[Perfect Blue]

Is Rojo going to be a wing back? That would be cool.

 

[Salvadora]

Arsenal have gone back on what they were.

Do you mean going back to what we were?

 

[Meier]

Except that even with all the new arrivals this season, you will very likely see more Liverpool youngsters being given debuts and chances in the league. What is more, we don't even need to just use Liverpool. Even with their supremely successful league team, Man Utd frequently gave opportunities to their young players and Arsenal likewise.

Funny you should mention that. United have a worse record of bringing English youngsters through than Man City in the Premier League era. On top of that, Januzaj was the first youth player they'd brought through in general since Welbeck (who not surprisingly was loaned out a few times) as I recall and that was what, 5 years? United's squad was not good last season -- they finished 8th for a reason. When you are a team who is in that area of the table, it makes sense to give some minutes to a younger player who can't be any worse.

 

[3Sixty]

Is Rojo going to be a wing back? That would be cool.

Not if your name is Luke Shaw

 

[L1NETT]

Do you mean going back to what we were?

The Invincibles era to now. Arsene said he would bring a core of British players to the club and he has

 

[figadapaura]

We had Nani before Chicha. Clearly we're not too bothered about nicknames.

 

[omgkitty]

You're grasping at straws if you don't think Vidal's the best atm.

Modric and Yaya are in the conversation. After that, huge drop.

Iniesta, Schweinsteiger?

 

[figadapaura]

Is Rojo going to be a wing back? That would be cool.

I assume he'll mostly play LCB, but probably wing back too occasionally.

 

[omgkitty]

The Invincibles era to now. Arsene said he would bring a core of British players to the club and he has

Are you an Arsenal fan? I always see you talking about us, but I know you're a Bradford City fan.

 

[Clegg]

We should go for Depay if we're that desperate for a winger. Better than anything else we have.

 

[Labadal]

Dat Neves. Pick him up, Brenton.

 

[Gareth Bale]

I want Depay at Spurs so much. I think it's just because there's a new article about him and Spurs every day. That atop him tearing the Eredivisie a new one.

Same. We really don't need any more of those players, but this is really our only chance to buy him. If we don't he's probably going to have an amazing season and bigger clubs or clubs with more money will come in for him and we won't even be in the picture. Like what happened with Isco.

 

[Jarnet87]

I reckon this 3-5-2 bollocks is going to end in tears for United.

van Gaal will drop 3-5-2 pretty soon. He already switched to a 4-3-3 at halftime of the first game.