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European Super League thread - https://www.neogaf.com/threads/european-super-league-football-soccer.1601432/
Banjo64
cumsessed
Super League confirmed.
thesuperleague.com
AC Milan, Arsenal FC, Atlético de Madrid, Chelsea FC, FC Barcelona, FC Internazionale Milano, Juventus FC, Liverpool FC, Manchester City, Manchester United, Real Madrid CF and Tottenham Hotspur have all joined as Founding Clubs. It is anticipated that a further three clubs will join ahead of the inaugural season, which is intended to commence as soon as practicable.
Going forward, the Founding Clubs look forward to holding discussions with UEFA and FIFA to work together in partnership to deliver the best outcomes for the new League and for football as a whole.
The formation of the Super League comes at a time when the global pandemic has accelerated the instability in the existing European football economic model. Further, for a number of years, the Founding Clubs have had the objective of improving the quality and intensity of existing European competitions throughout each season, and of creating a format for top clubs and players to compete on a regular basis.
The pandemic has shown that a strategic vision and a sustainable commercial approach are required to enhance value and support for the benefit of the entire European football pyramid. In recent months extensive dialogue has taken place with football stakeholders regarding the future format of European competitions. The Founding Clubs believe the solutions proposed following these talks do not solve fundamental issues, including the need to provide higher-quality matches and additional financial resources for the overall football pyramid.
As soon as practicable after the start of the men’s competition, a corresponding women’s league will also be launched, helping to advance and develop the women’s game.
The new annual tournament will provide significantly greater economic growth and support for European football via a long-term commitment to uncapped solidarity payments which will grow in line with league revenues. These solidarity payments will be substantially higher than those generated by the current European competition and are expected to be in excess of €10 billion during the course of the initial commitment period of the Clubs. In addition, the competition will be built on a sustainable financial foundation with all Founding Clubs signing up to a spending framework. In exchange for their commitment, Founding Clubs will receive an amount of €3.5 billion solely to support their infrastructure investment plans and to offset the impact of the COVID pandemic.
Florentino Pérez, President Real Madrid CF and the first Chairman of the Super League said:
“We will help football at every level and take it to its rightful place in the world. Football is the only global sport in the world with more than four billion fans and our responsibility as big clubs is to respond to their desires.”
Backing the new European league, Andrea Agnelli, Chairman of Juventus and Vice-Chairman of the Super League said:
“Our 12 Founder clubs represent billions of fans across the globe and 99 European trophies. We have come together at this critical moment, enabling European competition to be transformed, putting the game we love on a sustainable footing for the long-term future, substantially increasing solidarity, and giving fans and amateur players a regular flow of headline fixtures that will feed their passion for the game while providing them with engaging role models.”
Joel Glazer, Co-Chairman of Manchester United and Vice-Chairman of the Super League said:
“By bringing together the world’s greatest clubs and players to play each other throughout the season, the Super League will open a new chapter for European football, ensuring world-class competition and facilities, and increased financial support for the wider football pyramid.”
The Super League
The Super League is a new European competition between 20 top clubs comprised of 15 founders and 5 annual qualifiers.
thesuperleague.com
LEADING EUROPEAN FOOTBALL CLUBS ANNOUNCE NEW SUPER LEAGUE COMPETITION
Twelve of Europe’s leading football clubs have today come together to announce they have agreed to establish a new mid-week competition, the Super League, governed by its Founding Clubs.AC Milan, Arsenal FC, Atlético de Madrid, Chelsea FC, FC Barcelona, FC Internazionale Milano, Juventus FC, Liverpool FC, Manchester City, Manchester United, Real Madrid CF and Tottenham Hotspur have all joined as Founding Clubs. It is anticipated that a further three clubs will join ahead of the inaugural season, which is intended to commence as soon as practicable.
Going forward, the Founding Clubs look forward to holding discussions with UEFA and FIFA to work together in partnership to deliver the best outcomes for the new League and for football as a whole.
The formation of the Super League comes at a time when the global pandemic has accelerated the instability in the existing European football economic model. Further, for a number of years, the Founding Clubs have had the objective of improving the quality and intensity of existing European competitions throughout each season, and of creating a format for top clubs and players to compete on a regular basis.
The pandemic has shown that a strategic vision and a sustainable commercial approach are required to enhance value and support for the benefit of the entire European football pyramid. In recent months extensive dialogue has taken place with football stakeholders regarding the future format of European competitions. The Founding Clubs believe the solutions proposed following these talks do not solve fundamental issues, including the need to provide higher-quality matches and additional financial resources for the overall football pyramid.
Competition Format
- 20 participating clubs with 15 Founding Clubs and a qualifying mechanism for a further five teams to qualify annually based on achievements in the prior season.
- Midweek fixtures with all participating clubs continuing to compete in their respective national leagues, preserving the traditional domestic match calendar which remains at the heart of the club game.
- An August start with clubs participating in two groups of ten, playing home and away fixtures, with the top three in each group automatically qualifying for the quarter finals. Teams finishing fourth and fifth will then compete in a two-legged play-off for the remaining quarter-final positions. A two-leg knockout format will be used to reach the final at the end of May, which will be staged as a single fixture at a neutral venue.
As soon as practicable after the start of the men’s competition, a corresponding women’s league will also be launched, helping to advance and develop the women’s game.
The new annual tournament will provide significantly greater economic growth and support for European football via a long-term commitment to uncapped solidarity payments which will grow in line with league revenues. These solidarity payments will be substantially higher than those generated by the current European competition and are expected to be in excess of €10 billion during the course of the initial commitment period of the Clubs. In addition, the competition will be built on a sustainable financial foundation with all Founding Clubs signing up to a spending framework. In exchange for their commitment, Founding Clubs will receive an amount of €3.5 billion solely to support their infrastructure investment plans and to offset the impact of the COVID pandemic.
Florentino Pérez, President Real Madrid CF and the first Chairman of the Super League said:
“We will help football at every level and take it to its rightful place in the world. Football is the only global sport in the world with more than four billion fans and our responsibility as big clubs is to respond to their desires.”
Backing the new European league, Andrea Agnelli, Chairman of Juventus and Vice-Chairman of the Super League said:
“Our 12 Founder clubs represent billions of fans across the globe and 99 European trophies. We have come together at this critical moment, enabling European competition to be transformed, putting the game we love on a sustainable footing for the long-term future, substantially increasing solidarity, and giving fans and amateur players a regular flow of headline fixtures that will feed their passion for the game while providing them with engaging role models.”
Joel Glazer, Co-Chairman of Manchester United and Vice-Chairman of the Super League said:
“By bringing together the world’s greatest clubs and players to play each other throughout the season, the Super League will open a new chapter for European football, ensuring world-class competition and facilities, and increased financial support for the wider football pyramid.”
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Dark Rider
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The announcement of the super league was hectic, I did not get to sleep much since (4-5 hours a day) trying to organize and connecting with the other fans to oppose it. Perez have to take the matter to the club members vote before it goes into effect but his plan was to get it set into stone first and right before it start then get to us regarding our vote to get our club into it so I and others were trying to organize to force a vote NOW while the iron is hot and the footballing world raging against it. I'm glad it got stopped but this is not over so here are my thoughts on the whole matter.
I think the clubs involved motivation can be divided into categories:
The first group is the clubs that are fan owned Real Madrid, Barcelona and Atlético Madrid (well Atlético Madrid is not fan owned anymore but that's a different long story and they still share the same views) and they are afraid of falling behind financially against clubs with owners that have deep pockets or flat out owned by states (directly or indirectly) and believe that in the long term they will be over spent and pushed out of the elite class of clubs. Their biggest problem is that they feel that no matter how much they can succeed commercially the the state clubs will brute force going ahead of them by throwing even more money and as bonus some of them are in leagues that have much bigger pay outs anyways. In the end they feel they are in a losing battle financially (and they can't do anything about it) and they are desperate for a way to keep level. Both Real Madrid and Barcelona presidents have to get their fans approval via vote to participate but their plan was to delay the vote until the super league is set in stone so they don't get blocked by the fans vote.
For this group the solution they wanted is to have equal spending caps based on an equal pay out for all the clubs in the super league so these two things are part of the super league.
The second group is the clubs that have billionaire owners that are not willing to inject enough money into their clubs to compete with the top spenders (Juventus, AC Milan and Inter Milan) and they have the same fears and feelings as the first group and want the same solution.
The third group is the clubs that have Billionaire owners that are not willing to inject enough money into their clubs to compete with the top spenders but also want guarantees that they get the money from the highest competition in Europe (Manchester United, Liverpool, Arsenal and Tottenham Hotspur) they want to make big amounts of money for themselves out of their clubs and are sick of missing out on the CL and its marketing and money and they have a fear of relegation as their fans start hammering them about being relegated whenever their club drop to mid-table. The owners of these clubs are Americans who are used to sports organization with no relegation and that no matter how bad you manage your club and how little you invest into it you are guarantee top money and a shot at the top so basically no consequence for your performance not now not ever.
For this group the solution they wanted is to have guarantee spot at the top in the super league with no relegation ever and to be payed the same as everyone no matter how bad they play so these two things are part of the super league.
The fourth group is the clubs with billionaire owners or state owned who are actually more than happy to inject as much money into their clubs as they are allowed to (and go as far as using loopholes to add more too) and their main goal is marketing themselves (Manchester City and Chelsea). This group is actually secure in their ability to keep themselves in the top flight and to have a spot at the CL with no fear of relegation because they will spend the money to keep themselves competing for the titles. The owners of these group chose clubs that are not considered at the elite level historically in Europe and injected money into them to collect trophies and ascend the glory ladder, they want themselves to reach the elite clubs in terms of silverware and market share. This means these two clubs do not need any change as they are progressing the way they wanted BUT to achieve their goals they must be part of the elite top competitions so if this super league take off they need to be in it to market themselves best otherwise they will be in a lower tier league with lower marketing/exposure power.
Now on to the German clubs Bayern München and Borussia Dortmund, being part of the German league they adhere to the Bundesliga 50%+1 rule so they are fan owned and have to get their fans approval to join and to avoid their fans ire they did decline the invitation to join because if they accepted the fans will vote against it anyway but also will kick the clubs boards out too. If the super league went through I have no doubt they will join.
Now to the final original piece of the super league, PSG have the same views as group four but the owners also are organizing the World Cup in 2022 and that is a huge problem because starting the super league will put all clubs and owners involved in direct war with UEFA and FIFA so they will be risking losing the World Cup or at least ruining it with a piece of the footballing world being torn out so for them keeping everything as is is ideal but after the World Cup (or if they were not hosting it) I have no doubt they would have joined.
The super league did accommodate all the participants demands but they need to be able to pull it off so the lawyers get involved here and they did their homework. Their first goal is to get it off the ground so first they need to ward off any punishment FIFA or UEFA will dish out and the biggest weakness here is the anti-competitive legislation in Europe. The set up with the 12~15 clubs closed league can and will be dragged into court to kill it so their solution was the added 5 rotational clubs that they get to pick and choose for each season. It was not out of the good of their hearts but these rotational 5 clubs are nothing but an excuse to fight off any anti-competitive law suits. Now to fight off any sanctions/punishments from UEFA and FIFA they will use anti-competitive laws to fight/sue them, the idea is to acquire an injection to any punishment from UEFA/FIFA so their super league start and spend years in courts in the anti-competitive court case against UEFA/FIFA and by the end it doesn't matter if they win or lose the super league has been set in stone and taken off and they successfully hijacked the top competition spot in Europe in terms of broadcasting/market share/exposure..etc so either UEFA/FIFA accept it or they risk the new organization becoming the new de facto organizers of the world competitions like the euro or even the world cup.
They did anticipate the backlash they were ready to chock UEFA/FIFA in courts and although maybe they did not anticipate the level of how mental the backlash was (I'm sure they did not anticipate that the involved clubs fans will demand their own clubs to be fined/relegated/point deducted and punished, it was a full revolt) I think they would have held the line. The biggest problem for them is when the backlash prompted politicians to get involved, they can ward off the European politicians by using the courts too but their biggest problem is that the UK is no longer part of the European Union and so the UK has parliamentary sovereignty so they cannot hide behind the courts, if the UK parliament passed a law the courts can't save them in the UK. The super league has 6 members from the UK and the UK MPs including the PM himself vowed action including threat legislation to force the 6 clubs owners to sell their clubs back to the fans and this is the real reason why the UK clubs buckled and crumbled one after the other announcing that they started the procedure of pulling out because they know the UK parliament can actually do that, any other reason sited by these clubs about listening to the fans or anything else is a flat out lie it was only because of the fear that the UK parliament force sell their clubs back to the fans nothing else. The UK government of course want to protect its domestic league marketing income (and thus taxes in the government coffers) but also it is an easy vote winner for them but in reality I doubt they would have gone through with their threat because Manchester City owners pay the UK government for military equipment more than they get from the domestic league but I could be wrong on this point.
I think Perez saying the contracts are binding and there is a penalty for pulling out (I think in the tune of hundreds of millions) is true and that no one officially pulled out is true also. I think the clubs who announced they pulled out in reality just requested to delay it and Perez said it will come back, their plan is to wait out the storm first and second to look at the cause of failure this time and use their money to grease the UK MPs palms for the next round so the fight is not over.
I think it is important that we all keep the pressure up on the governments and there must be two fundamental demands. First a full disclosure of the contract they signed so we know all the terms and the penalties and to make sure the contracts are actually broken/canceled (they need to provide hard proof they pulled out none of us should believe those liars). Second to classify football as national heritage all across Europe and the UK and on that bases force fan full ownership of the clubs (or at least controlling/majority stock owned by the fans. Football is deeply integrated and evolved from the local communities culture after all. Anything less and they will pull this off next time after they get prepared for any counters we have. WE NEED TO FIGHT THIS, IT'S NOT OVER YET.
I think the clubs involved motivation can be divided into categories:
The first group is the clubs that are fan owned Real Madrid, Barcelona and Atlético Madrid (well Atlético Madrid is not fan owned anymore but that's a different long story and they still share the same views) and they are afraid of falling behind financially against clubs with owners that have deep pockets or flat out owned by states (directly or indirectly) and believe that in the long term they will be over spent and pushed out of the elite class of clubs. Their biggest problem is that they feel that no matter how much they can succeed commercially the the state clubs will brute force going ahead of them by throwing even more money and as bonus some of them are in leagues that have much bigger pay outs anyways. In the end they feel they are in a losing battle financially (and they can't do anything about it) and they are desperate for a way to keep level. Both Real Madrid and Barcelona presidents have to get their fans approval via vote to participate but their plan was to delay the vote until the super league is set in stone so they don't get blocked by the fans vote.
For this group the solution they wanted is to have equal spending caps based on an equal pay out for all the clubs in the super league so these two things are part of the super league.
The second group is the clubs that have billionaire owners that are not willing to inject enough money into their clubs to compete with the top spenders (Juventus, AC Milan and Inter Milan) and they have the same fears and feelings as the first group and want the same solution.
The third group is the clubs that have Billionaire owners that are not willing to inject enough money into their clubs to compete with the top spenders but also want guarantees that they get the money from the highest competition in Europe (Manchester United, Liverpool, Arsenal and Tottenham Hotspur) they want to make big amounts of money for themselves out of their clubs and are sick of missing out on the CL and its marketing and money and they have a fear of relegation as their fans start hammering them about being relegated whenever their club drop to mid-table. The owners of these clubs are Americans who are used to sports organization with no relegation and that no matter how bad you manage your club and how little you invest into it you are guarantee top money and a shot at the top so basically no consequence for your performance not now not ever.
For this group the solution they wanted is to have guarantee spot at the top in the super league with no relegation ever and to be payed the same as everyone no matter how bad they play so these two things are part of the super league.
The fourth group is the clubs with billionaire owners or state owned who are actually more than happy to inject as much money into their clubs as they are allowed to (and go as far as using loopholes to add more too) and their main goal is marketing themselves (Manchester City and Chelsea). This group is actually secure in their ability to keep themselves in the top flight and to have a spot at the CL with no fear of relegation because they will spend the money to keep themselves competing for the titles. The owners of these group chose clubs that are not considered at the elite level historically in Europe and injected money into them to collect trophies and ascend the glory ladder, they want themselves to reach the elite clubs in terms of silverware and market share. This means these two clubs do not need any change as they are progressing the way they wanted BUT to achieve their goals they must be part of the elite top competitions so if this super league take off they need to be in it to market themselves best otherwise they will be in a lower tier league with lower marketing/exposure power.
Now on to the German clubs Bayern München and Borussia Dortmund, being part of the German league they adhere to the Bundesliga 50%+1 rule so they are fan owned and have to get their fans approval to join and to avoid their fans ire they did decline the invitation to join because if they accepted the fans will vote against it anyway but also will kick the clubs boards out too. If the super league went through I have no doubt they will join.
Now to the final original piece of the super league, PSG have the same views as group four but the owners also are organizing the World Cup in 2022 and that is a huge problem because starting the super league will put all clubs and owners involved in direct war with UEFA and FIFA so they will be risking losing the World Cup or at least ruining it with a piece of the footballing world being torn out so for them keeping everything as is is ideal but after the World Cup (or if they were not hosting it) I have no doubt they would have joined.
The super league did accommodate all the participants demands but they need to be able to pull it off so the lawyers get involved here and they did their homework. Their first goal is to get it off the ground so first they need to ward off any punishment FIFA or UEFA will dish out and the biggest weakness here is the anti-competitive legislation in Europe. The set up with the 12~15 clubs closed league can and will be dragged into court to kill it so their solution was the added 5 rotational clubs that they get to pick and choose for each season. It was not out of the good of their hearts but these rotational 5 clubs are nothing but an excuse to fight off any anti-competitive law suits. Now to fight off any sanctions/punishments from UEFA and FIFA they will use anti-competitive laws to fight/sue them, the idea is to acquire an injection to any punishment from UEFA/FIFA so their super league start and spend years in courts in the anti-competitive court case against UEFA/FIFA and by the end it doesn't matter if they win or lose the super league has been set in stone and taken off and they successfully hijacked the top competition spot in Europe in terms of broadcasting/market share/exposure..etc so either UEFA/FIFA accept it or they risk the new organization becoming the new de facto organizers of the world competitions like the euro or even the world cup.
They did anticipate the backlash they were ready to chock UEFA/FIFA in courts and although maybe they did not anticipate the level of how mental the backlash was (I'm sure they did not anticipate that the involved clubs fans will demand their own clubs to be fined/relegated/point deducted and punished, it was a full revolt) I think they would have held the line. The biggest problem for them is when the backlash prompted politicians to get involved, they can ward off the European politicians by using the courts too but their biggest problem is that the UK is no longer part of the European Union and so the UK has parliamentary sovereignty so they cannot hide behind the courts, if the UK parliament passed a law the courts can't save them in the UK. The super league has 6 members from the UK and the UK MPs including the PM himself vowed action including threat legislation to force the 6 clubs owners to sell their clubs back to the fans and this is the real reason why the UK clubs buckled and crumbled one after the other announcing that they started the procedure of pulling out because they know the UK parliament can actually do that, any other reason sited by these clubs about listening to the fans or anything else is a flat out lie it was only because of the fear that the UK parliament force sell their clubs back to the fans nothing else. The UK government of course want to protect its domestic league marketing income (and thus taxes in the government coffers) but also it is an easy vote winner for them but in reality I doubt they would have gone through with their threat because Manchester City owners pay the UK government for military equipment more than they get from the domestic league but I could be wrong on this point.
I think Perez saying the contracts are binding and there is a penalty for pulling out (I think in the tune of hundreds of millions) is true and that no one officially pulled out is true also. I think the clubs who announced they pulled out in reality just requested to delay it and Perez said it will come back, their plan is to wait out the storm first and second to look at the cause of failure this time and use their money to grease the UK MPs palms for the next round so the fight is not over.
I think it is important that we all keep the pressure up on the governments and there must be two fundamental demands. First a full disclosure of the contract they signed so we know all the terms and the penalties and to make sure the contracts are actually broken/canceled (they need to provide hard proof they pulled out none of us should believe those liars). Second to classify football as national heritage all across Europe and the UK and on that bases force fan full ownership of the clubs (or at least controlling/majority stock owned by the fans. Football is deeply integrated and evolved from the local communities culture after all. Anything less and they will pull this off next time after they get prepared for any counters we have. WE NEED TO FIGHT THIS, IT'S NOT OVER YET.
Prison Mike
Banned
Well done boys ctid...
mekes
Member
Man I feel so down about Giggs. He is the reason I started even WATCHING football. I never enjoyed watching it until Sky posted my parents a top 100 goals VHS in 91. I originally watched it out of boredom but was amazed with 1 specific Giggs goal. He megged 2 defenders and then megged the keeper. As a young kid, you almost wanted to meg somebody as much as you wanted to score. I didnt become a fan of United, but a fan of Giggs. The more I watched, the more interest I took in the team.
Giggs was my sporting hero, i was desperate for him to reach 1000 games for United. I didnt want him to retire and was genuinely sad when he did. Hes the reason I even watched football and every good moment I witnessed in the 30 years since seeing him on that VHS tape, it all comes from him making me a fan of football, and then United.
People say never to meet your heroes. And I feel like I have with Giggs by way of news stories. And it all makes me feel so shit. My hero is an asshole :/
DKehoe
Member
Yeh, I get what you mean. It really sucks because he was such an incredible talent and like you I grew up watching him and being amazed by what he could do. As you grow older you realise those you idolised aren't perfect and you try to not be too disappointed when you find out about flaws they may have had. But the stuff with him goes beyond making mistakes like we all do and into him being an absolute arsehole.
Prison Mike
Banned
Weird how you shit on every team apart from precious barca..... Wanker
Jon Neu
Banned
You should actually read my posts about Barça in the Bartomeu era.
DKehoe
Member
City have only scored 8 fewer goals than Barcelona this season. And they’ve done it with their main striker being out for most of the season.
Banjo64
cumsessed
Well we’ve done ok so far this season, won the League Cup, about to win the league and 2-1 up after the first leg of the CL semi-final.
Kun is off at the end of the season, we’ll sign a quality forward.
Prison Mike
Banned
Not bad for a team with no strikers eh.
Jon Neu
Banned
Barça sold their striker this season and everything was just in the hands of a 33 years old Messi. It's not precisely the best Barça ever.
But I'm just saying that it's obvious that City would be a better team with someone who can score goals.
DKehoe
Member
City have now only scored 9 less than Bayern have this season. They've also scored more than Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid, Inter, Juventus, AC Milan, RB Leipzig, Chelsea, Man Utd, Lille and many other high level teams. It's fair to say they are doing fine at scoring goals.
It's impressive City have done so well while not having a top level striker for most of this season. And adding that, which they will do with Aguero leaving this season, will make them an even scarier proposition. But you were saying they couldn't score goals without a good striker and the players they have were incapable of providing that. I was just pointing out they have been scoring goals with the players they do have. It's maybe not through a singular focus as other teams may have but they've obviously been effective.
T8SC
Member
DKehoe
Member
I was about to say "well I did say many other high level teams, not all of them" but I'm sad to report they have actually somehow scored more than Hull City across all competitions too. I'm going by the stats on whoscored for that. Maybe I'm missing something though.Hull City have scored more though.
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
Manchester City is more likable than PSG (the true fans endured years of misery at the hands of Man Utd), so I’d rather see them go through than PSG and I am glad with the result.
Lionel Richie
Member
I absolutely LOVE to watch this City team play, but I thought it wasn't their best performance. They got bailed out by an ABSOLUTELY HALAL goal Navas conceded and then the PSG defender fearing for his dick on the FK. They controlled large chunks of the match as they often do, but the pace wasn't there and the team played a bit slow. Kind of disappointing from a team I admire so much.
However, if they're able to win somewhat comfortably on a subpar day, they should absolutely run PSG out of the stadium on the next match.
However, if they're able to win somewhat comfortably on a subpar day, they should absolutely run PSG out of the stadium on the next match.
Jon Neu
Banned
The difference is actually 14 goals while Bayern has played 5 games less than City.
That's quite the difference in offensive power.
Madrid and Atletico are defensive minded teams that like to play counterattacks and profit from setpieces. Inter, Juve and Milan pretty much the same, and also Serie A it's much more defensive and tactical minded than the Premier League, which is the league with more spaces and faster rhythm of the big ones. Chelsea also don't have a relevant player who can score a lot because Werner is a joke, Manchester Untied is a dysfunctional team and Leizpig and Lille are obviously not at the same level as the rest of the teams.
The point is: City plays kind of similar to what Barça used to play, with a lot of posession, combinations, taking their time to build up plays, etc... That's wonderful, because that means you are going to create a lot of chances to score and therefore you will score a lot of goals, as they do. But that also means they would be the ones who will benefit the most of having a finisher and after the arrival of Ruben Dias, the striker position it's obviously the most improvable spot of the team. Buying a good striker would take the team to an even higher level.
TaylorSwiftFan
Member
I would argue that Bayern also plays in a weaker league.
Prison Mike
Banned
I totally agree, what we need this summer is a top striker like you said we make so many chances a top striker would flourish.
Jon Neu
Banned
Barça fucking sucks.
We need a fuckin striker. There's no point in playing all the time around the area if there's nobody in the area to pass the ball to.
Also Pedri and Moriba are good young talents, but we need someone who can take the offensive lead in the midfield right now.
And a fucking right back that isn't as embarassing as Sergi Roberto.
We need a fuckin striker. There's no point in playing all the time around the area if there's nobody in the area to pass the ball to.
Also Pedri and Moriba are good young talents, but we need someone who can take the offensive lead in the midfield right now.
And a fucking right back that isn't as embarassing as Sergi Roberto.
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
Kill my football soul, I cannot stand this Barcelona anymore. Please go away Messi, don’t waste your time with us.
Prison Mike
Banned
Great strikeNearly there now;
Dark Rider
Member
The battle about the ESL will take a while, it is exhausting and I'm worried people are complicit letting it die off and the contracts and authorities sleep on it as a result.
Dark Rider
Member
The power of having a club where the fans have an actual say, the board mess up and the fans kick them out, that is why they try to not make any mistakes.
Do you work in a law firm by any chance?
Welcome to The Football Thread
Who do you support?
Dark Rider
Member
Petition to enforce the 50+1 rule in English football has hit 100,000 signatures, the government now must consider the petition for debate in the house of parliament
petition.parliament.uk
Archived Petition: Enforce the “50+1” Rule for professional football club ownership in the UK
Bring in a law which enforces professional football clubs to have at least 51% fan ownership similar to how the Bundesliga operates this rule.
petition.parliament.uk
Dark Rider
Member
The only request Sergio Ramos has to renew his with Real Madrid: 2 years of contract
www.marca.com
We'll see.
Sergio Ramos quiere dos años a dos meses del final
Dos meses. Ese es el tiempo que resta de contrato entre el Real Madrid y Sergio Ramos. Nada se ha movido en sentido alguno desde el mes de enero y si el deseo de todos era dar por
www.marca.com
We'll see.
Dark Rider
Member
[Jose Felix Diaz, Marca] Cristiano Ronaldo wants to leave Juventus. The player misses Madrid, he misses his old companions. He has a good relationship with Florentino Perez. But a return to Real Madrid is impossible. Cristiano has two other options: Manchester United and PSG
www.marca.com
We can't afford his wadges.
Cristiano Ronaldo no encuentra destino tras el no del Real Madrid
La Juventus y Cristiano Ronaldo están pasando un momento más que delicado. Los malos resultados, la negativa situación económica y las tensas relaciones que existen dentro del ves
www.marca.com
We can't afford his wadges.
Dark Rider
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Bolton Wanderers manager Ian Evatt: "One of my goals is to stop people in Bolton wearing Manchester United kits. I want the young kids and future fans to be wearing our shirts, not Man United’s."
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‘Big ship to turn around’: Bolton ready to rise again after years of strife
Club sit one win from an instant return to League One after a wretched start, inspired by a manager who borrows from Bielsa
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[Villarreal News Blog] Juan Foyth injured til the end of the season, Capoue could make the weekend match.
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[Adriano Del Monte] Inter’s victory confirms Juventus can no longer mathematically win the Scudetto. Run of 9 straight titles is officially over.
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[Mario Cortegana, GOAL] Varane was subbed off due to discomfort in his right leg. Depending on how he feels tomorrow, he will have tests.
At this rate I'll be playing in the last match day of the season.
At this rate I'll be playing in the last match day of the season.
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REPORT: Messi To Take Pay Cut To Fund Haaland Move
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REPORT: Messi To Take Pay Cut To Fund Haaland Move
Lionel Messi is reportedly willing to take a pay cut in order for Barcelona to finance their move for Erling Haaland.
