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Solaire of Astora
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As far as I remember it, it was his engineer that broke the rule. Not Nico. That particularly struck me as bullshit.
It's a team sport.
Since his starts have been ok recently, unbanning the radio won't make any difference then? lol
His starts might go from ok to flawless again, but it doesn't matter because the radio ban is still in effect on the formation lap.
My point is that both Mercedes drivers were very dependent on radio communication and coaching. Didn't they have like 4 times the amount of radio messages per race compared to any other team?
nature boy
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So what turns are no-nos in terms of track limits?
So then his starts will be entirely uneffected at all. So I'm still not sure how unbanning the radio will make Hamilton win the title when, as I said, he's winning after the ban and multiple car failures.
I've no idea how much radio stuff they had over anyone else. I've never seen a stat for it. Wouldn;t surprise me if its just one more narrative that gets debunked. They seem to be doing ok with no radio.
Solaire of Astora
Death by black JPN
Indeed. But I feel docking the team points in the constructors championship would have sufficed... Not that they're in any danger of losing the constructors championship, but there is a precedent for it.
Still, either way, it's not really fair to say that Nico broke the rule.
nature boy
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Goddamn, pretty empty even for FP1.
RIP Germany GP.
RIP Germany GP.
Dutch Gronk
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So cute to see Ferrari try get Vettel on P1 in his home Grand Prix.
nature boy
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No sensor on the the last corner? Lame.
McLaren-Vettel is probably just something made up by Ron Dennis to help him negotiate a paycut for Alonso.
And how would this protect against debris when driving? Go canopy or go home.
Fernando: "We need to make a new circuit for the Ferraris"
Now, this is something I think everyone could accept:
And how would this protect against debris when driving? Go canopy or go home.
nature boy
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So the FIA did a 180º on the radio ban? Fucking twats for coming up with the ban in the first place.
The F1 Strategy Group did the 180.
Myoclonic Jerk
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It's so extreme. Just a few years back they didn't care about the media and the fans!
It just shows how F1 is just stumbling around. Spanky Max's times were much better and much more stable. Regardless if we agreed with his direction or not, but atleast F1 had a frikin direction
Mastah
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So what is it, deleting lap times set under double yellows or red flagging session? If the latter it's one of the stupidest thing ever, because like it was one week ago there were flags waved for some 20 seconds and that's it. There's no need to red flag it in situations like that :/
I think they finally realised tha t bunch of old dudes don't actually know best. So whenever the fans, drivers and teams all start complaining about the same thing they react rather than just digging their heels in.
Hopefully it'll lead to some reform about how these things are introduced in the first place.
All the bollocks about changing qualifying is a prime example.
PjotrStroganov
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Setting the fastest time under yellow or double yellow always seemed unsafe to me. Sure, a drying track can skew the results but these situations are an exception to the rule.
Psychotext
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The beeps are for telling them when to let off the accelerator to save fuel. It's fucking ridiculous.
Yeah, it's always one extreme or the other with these muppets. "Compromise" and "middle ground" and "common sense" don't seem to be present in their vocabulary.
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bobnowhere
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Fully expect DC to suddenly emerge from the mist sideways.
Mastah
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Remember Monaco 2014? Be prepared to see more of it. I just can't believe how stupid these people are.
Hahahaha, you can't even police something so easy to understand as track limits (all 4 wheels besides white line = off the circuit). Good luck with trying to be smarter than drivers who know if they brake or steer 1 metre later they can spin.
Psychotext
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Ha, good times.
I remember watching that live with my mother and we were just like. :O
Easily fixed by making sure that if a red flag occurs in the last 4 minutes (or 5 in tracks with laps over 1:30s) the clock resets to leave a final session of 5 minutes.
Also, you can penalize drivers that spin-off with no clear technical failure by scrapping their qualifying time and putting them at the back of the grid.
marvelharvey
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This is way too open to abuse for my liking. Whoever caused the yellow should have their time deleted too.
sammyCYBORG
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Yeah that's going to encourage people to drive on the limit...
Mastah
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Not so easy to fix when there's fixed number of tyre sets and they are on their last set of the softest compound during last run. No one would be out again if there's restart, because they wouldn't improve.
I want to watch drivers going to the limit and beyond, not being afraid if they cause yellows they will be penalised harshly.
Ah, well yeah thats stupid.
I guess Verstappen is happy that they don't have the yellow Verstappen kerbs here.
Dunno, the exceeding track limits during the race is a no no to me, but during practice... Practice isn't only about a car setup, but also, well, practice. When track limits are properly governed during qualifying and the race, does it matter some drivers are overly aggressive in practice sessions? Either they reach the optimal cornering, or will get penalized when they didn't.
As long as it's not constant in the race I don't mind it, but it should be a complete no-no in qualifying even if it's its notionally slower they should just bin the lap.
PjotrStroganov
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Why does the rule exist anyway however?
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