Because the wider you can make the corner the faster you can go through it.
So running wide on the exit means you can carry more speed on some corners where there is lots of runoff for you to drive on rather than, say, gravel.
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Because the wider you can make the corner the faster you can go through it.
So running wide on the exit means you can carry more speed on some corners where there is lots of runoff for you to drive on rather than, say, gravel.
Icefire1424
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Whoa whoa whoa...what did I miss? Jenson okay?
He complained about a hot bottom before but the team told Kravitz he hasn't burned or shocked himself.
PjotrStroganov
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But what is the problem with that? In DTM they do it all the time.
Icefire1424
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Ah, okay. I saw Jenson in medical center and Hamilton en route to the stewards, came to the conclusion there must have been a wreck. Thanks work, for yet again interfering with my ability to keep up with F1.
Psychotext
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The tyres can't handle it.
Oh my bad, my Hamilton comment was referring to when one of the Red Bulls overtook a Manor and Hamilton was caught napping as he exited the pits and he decided to be cranky on the radio again.
You didn't miss much tbh. Mercedes has won the German GP.
THey are supposed to stay inside the white line, or at leas,t not put all 4 wheels over it.
Some do, most dont, so some gain that advantage. If they aren't punishing it then some will do it a lot.
Icefire1424
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Generally speaking, I just assume this nowadays. Silver arrows are still just too dominant. I'm still having fun watching this season though. A few surprises.
OH FOR FUCK SAKES
Mastah
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Renault want Perez alongside Ocon for 2017, he also held talks with Williams:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/125518/renault-wants-to-sign-perez-for-2017
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/125518/renault-wants-to-sign-perez-for-2017
Paradise Brunch
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Who will be Hulk's partner then?
Williams might be ditching Bottas from the sounds of things.
adamantypants
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I've only been watching F1 for about 3 years, but this seems to be par for the course. It's just a 8-9 month shitshow from all directions.
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Relax, @alo_oficial. It's your birthday.
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Relax, @alo_oficial. It's your birthday.
Obligatory Alonso chair pose.
See, Mclaren are trendsetters in F1 again
So what, aside from the time needed to swap engines, stops a team from using a whole bunch (they can swap more than two) of engines in a single weekend later in the season like Spa, taking the penalty (Mercedes would barely suffer) and then going all out with the free engines that don't need to last more than two races or so?
I wish they would close this loophole because it's a shitty way of abusing the rules.
I was wondering if they might do exactly this, since Spa is the sort of track that Mercedes could still 1-2 if they both started at the back of the grid, and there aren't many of those left.
It was expected that they'd take at least one engine. But taking one for quali and then another for the race wasn't as expected. It was always going to happen at one of the races after the break though just to aid overtaking chances.
Nothing at all. They'd just rather not take the chance on starting at the back. It's a lot of cars to get through and a lot of youngsters with a point to prove.
Fox Mulder
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There's only two real options, strict white lines everywhere, or let drivers go off everywhere for speed advantages. The specific corner rules and penalty shit each week was awful.
If someone wants to go through marbles and over a kerb looking for speed, whatever.
scorcher59
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That's what happen when you remove all gravel runoffs and replace it all with asphalt, they dug themselves into this hole, just let them exploit track limits. Also please sack Mr. Whiting.
As long as chicanes and inside corners are respected I have no issues with people going over the white line a bit, if it means no more stupid penalties and discounted lap times. If there is no rule, everyone will do it and nobody gains anything over the others, problem solved.
I mean, we can't expect the circuits to tailor all their tracks to just Formula 1, that is just the reality of it. They have enough of a hard time to stay afloat as it is.
Waldo Lydecker
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Indeed!
I miss those big, deep, gravel runoff areas. With the dissapearance of them the F1 died a little.
They should just bring them and the risk of cornering too wide back, problem solved.
Fox Mulder
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Tracks have to accommodate more than just f1 with their layouts, plus many drivers like the runoff areas for the obvious benefits. Those days are gone.
The FIA really need a catchall for this sort of obvious abuse. Gaming the rules to a certain degree is to be expected but no offense to Mercedes this is pretty much a transparent fuck you to the rules and competent authorities prevent that.
scorcher59
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That's exactly why i think trying to enforce track limits it useless, since there's no deterrent to exit track limits, just stop trying to force the drivers to them
Waldo Lydecker
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https://youtu.be/pSw5uFBGZC4
These guys didn't care for track limits... Shame these days are over :-|
These guys didn't care for track limits... Shame these days are over :-|
Gravel traps are fine if the car just runs off the track in a straight line.
Anything else and they stand a good chance of digging in and flipping at high speed, sending debris, wheels etc all over the place. Gravel won't make a comeback.
Just install the sensors into every corner and have the 3 strike rule during race and lap time dropped in qualifying. Or just automatic +1 or +2 seconds into finish time during race/at next stop per going over the line. I mean they could do it easily. If it had automatic and severe punishments the drivers would stay inside the lines. Just like in Monaco they don't go over the white lines as after that you have a wall.
I think the biggest issue now is the randomness of enforcing these rules. One of the reasons for the randomness in the rule applying is that every race has different (local?) group of guys applying the rules. They should just pick a group of guys and fly the same guys to every race.
edit: Other option ofcourse would be to have narrower rumble strip together with gravel/astro turf (very slippery) behind it. But as has been pointed out designs like that have been mainly gotten rid of due to safety concerns / damage to cars from going out.
Psychotext
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Funnily enough, in all of that madness track limits were only exceeded once, by one car.
2015 feels like a half completed game, the basics are solid though, but with 2016 looking really good, I would say go for that.
It's only 38 on yourgamezone.nl btw
Is that a digital copy?
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