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[Fox Mulder]

I can't wait.

2017 is going to be the year of the prancing horse.

There is no doubt about that!

I doubt it.

 

[Myoclonic Jerk]

Based upon what exactly?

Rules changes.. not track record or anything logical at all lol

 

[Aiii]

Rules changes.. not track record or anything logical at all lol

Well, thank God then that they didn't lose their top designer mid season so they had ample time to get that new car on schedule.

Oh. Wait.

 

[Myoclonic Jerk]

Well, thank God then that they didn't lose their top designer mid season so they had ample time to get that new car on schedule.

Oh. Wait.

LOL.. trust me.. next year's Ferrari will... ah fuck it.. they'll suck..

 

[Ennosuke]

LOL.. trust me.. next year's Ferrari will... ah fuck it.. they'll suck..

I know they will suck, but I try to believe! Yes they can.

 

[Mastah]

AUTOSPORT'S 2016 TEAM BOSS'S TOP 10

1 Lewis Hamilton, 234 points (No change)
2 Max Verstappen, 183 (Up two places)
3 Nico Rosberg, 176 (No change)
4 Daniel Ricciardo, 133 (Up five)
5 Sebastian Vettel, 90 (Down three)
6 Fernando Alonso, 67 (No change)
7 Kimi Raikkonen, 61 (Up three)
8 Sergio Perez, 52 (No change)
9 Valtteri Bottas, 26 (Down two)
10 Carlos Sainz Jr, 25 (New entry)

WHO VOTED

Toto Wolff, Mercedes
Christian Horner, Red Bull
Maurizio Arrivabene, Ferrari
Vijay Mallya, Force India
Claire Williams, Williams
Eric Boullier, McLaren
Franz Tost, Toro Rosso
Gunther Steiner, Haas
Fred Vasseur, Renault
Monisha Kaltenborn, Sauber
Dave Ryan, Manor

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/127328/team-bosses-name-hamilton-2016-best-driver

 

[xrnzaaas]

AUTOSPORT'S 2016 TEAM BOSS'S TOP 10

Kvyat out of top10 (he was fifth), he really can't catch a break.

 

[Aiii]

Would have put Grosjean ahead of Sainz in there. Despite all the problems with the Haas, he drove that thing like a champ and completely overshadowed his teammate.

 

[f0rk]

I'd probably put Hulkenburg above Bottas and Sainz

 

[DD]

Would have put Grosjean ahead of Sainz in there. Despite all the problems with the Haas, he drove that thing like a champ and completely overshadowed his teammate.

His teammate was Gutierror, ffs...
Perez should be higher, tho.

 

[Business]

As for GRO, I agree overshadowing GUT doesn't mean much.

BOT was disappointing for me this season so I wouldn't put it him a top 10 either.

 

[Myoclonic Jerk]

AUTOSPORT'S 2016 TEAM BOSS'S TOP 10

1 Lewis Hamilton, 234 points (No change)
2 Max Verstappen, 183 (Up two places)
3 Nico Rosberg, 176 (No change)
4 Daniel Ricciardo, 133 (Up five)
5 Sebastian Vettel, 90 (Down three)
6 Fernando Alonso, 67 (No change)
7 Kimi Raikkonen, 61 (Up three)
8 Sergio Perez, 52 (No change)
9 Valtteri Bottas, 26 (Down two)
10 Carlos Sainz Jr, 25 (New entry)

WHO VOTED

Toto Wolff, Mercedes
Christian Horner, Red Bull
Maurizio Arrivabene, Ferrari
Vijay Mallya, Force India
Claire Williams, Williams
Eric Boullier, McLaren
Franz Tost, Toro Rosso
Gunther Steiner, Haas
Fred Vasseur, Renault
Monisha Kaltenborn, Sauber
Dave Ryan, Manor

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/127328/team-bosses-name-hamilton-2016-best-driver

Apart from Vettel being ahead of Kimi, this is pretty accurate.

Actually, Rosberg could go a couple of spots down for choking under pressure few times

 

[KillerMan91]

As for GRO, I agree overshadowing GUT doesn't mean much.

BOT was disappointing for me this season so I wouldn't put it him a top 10 either.

I don't think it was Bottas fault that Williams car was complete trash this year. Not to mention that together with Ferrari they continue to make the most idiotic strategic decisions.

 

[Business]

I don't think it was Bottas fault that Williams car was complete trash this year. Not to mention that together with Ferrari they continue to make the most idiotic strategic decisions.

Of course, but in my opinion he should have dominated Massa more clearly. Taking a better look I may have to put him 11th though

edit: I see the numbers and its 17-4 for Bottas in the qualy head to head, so I had the wrong impression.

 

[DBT85]

German champ in a German car and the German gp is not on the calendar next year! Looks like Brazil is provisional too.

 

[Fox Mulder]

German champ in a German car and the German gp is not on the calendar next year! Looks like Brazil is provisional too.

i guess mercedes doesnt care to prop one up in germany either. Redbull bought a track and renovated it.

wonder what we get as replacements. Malaysia is gone in 2018, and maybe singapore too.

 

[Zeknurn]

German champ in a German car and the German gp is not on the calendar next year! Looks like Brazil is provisional too.

Expensive tickets and predictable races. The Germans are just wiser than everyone else.

 

[runningjoke]

I don't think ticket sales would be a problem for a GP at the Nürburgring, Spa was packed with Dutch fans and the ring is the same distance.

 

[Hasney]

Fuck F1 if they get rid of Brazil. I'd honestly take losing the British GP over losing that one.

 

[brotkasten]

German champ in a German car and the German gp is not on the calendar next year! Looks like Brazil is provisional too.

Like I keep saying, no one cares about Nico Rosberg in Germany. I'm not even sure he'd count as a star here.

 

[DD]

Fuck F1 if they get rid of Brazil. I'd honestly take losing the British GP over losing that one.

Brazil and Canada just got both confirmed for 2017, with a total of 20 races. And Baku won't conflict with Le Mans anymore.

 

[Lima]

And Baku won't conflict with Le Mans anymore.

Won't make that race more exciting to watch though.

 

[DrM]

Hockenheim won't be missed, because (new) track layout suck major balls

 

[Aiii]

Hockenheim won't be missed, because (new) track layout suck major balls

Agreed tbh.

 

[Lima]

Hockenheim won't be missed, because new track layout suck major balls

Basically.

I like the Nürburgring GP but after the total fuckery that happened over the last years regarding ownership of that track it's hard to see F1 returning to it soon.

 

[Scotch]

Time for Zandvoort to make its triumphant return, with help from a certain Dutch beer brewer!

Spoiler

Only half kidding

 

[DD]

Time for Zandvoort to make its triumphant return, with help from a certain Dutch beer brewer!

Spoiler

Only half kidding

Assen is more doable.

 

[FrankCanada97]

LOL.. trust me.. next year's Ferrari will... ah fuck it.. they'll suck..

2017 is definitely going to be Ferrari's year...

In GP2:

 

[dalin80]

German champ in a German car and the German gp is not on the calendar next year! Looks like Brazil is provisional too.

Well, a champ of no real nationality in a mostly British car anyway...

 

[DBT85]

Like I keep saying, no one cares about Nico Rosberg in Germany. I'm not even sure he'd count as a star here.

His most vocal support seems to come from the UK.

 

[dalin80]

His most vocal support seems to come from the UK.

Much of his support here seems to be more 'I dislike Hamilton' rather then 'I like Rosberg'.

 

[DBT85]

Much of his support here seems to be more 'I dislike Hamilton' rather then 'I like Rosberg'.

Indeed.

 

[Wax Free Vanilla]

This smells of deja vu. The regs are even less aero focused next year so either their engine leap frogs everybody else or they're stuck in the same place.

Newey didn't comeback licking his chops because of there being less focus on the aero.

There is a lot more freedom in the architecture of the bodywork and the aerodynamics we can apply. There’s a lot more freedom.

Aero will be king.


Early season pecking order prediction:

McLaren
Red Bull
Mercedes
Toro Rosso
Ferrari
Williams
Renault
Force India
HAAS
Renamed Manor
Sauber

 

[Aiii]

RBR ahead of McLaren huh, Wax? O ye of little faith...

 

[brotkasten]

RBR ahead of McLaren huh, Wax? O ye of little faith...

Peter Pomodoro isn't quite ready yet to tame the Honda beast. But he will get on top of it during the season. That's a promise!

 

[Fox Mulder]

Newey didn't comeback licking his chops because of there being less focus on the aero.



Aero will be king.


Early season pecking order prediction:

McLaren
Red Bull
Mercedes
Toro Rosso
Ferrari
Williams
Renault
Force India
HAAS
Renamed Manor
Sauber

I'd put redbull and Mercedes at the top, the Mercs arent stupid with aero and will be fine.

I would love to see Toro Rosso do well with the Renault engine. Revenge of Kyvat.

 

[Shaneus]

Newey didn't comeback licking his chops because of there being less focus on the aero.

I didn't realise he was officially coming back (at least, in a larger capacity than 2016). Glad he is though, need some People's Champion dominance in 2017.

 

[Frankfurter]

Like I keep saying, no one cares about Nico Rosberg in Germany. I'm not even sure he'd count as a star here.

Did you see the TV ratings for last race? They were actually pretty damn good. I really don't why you just keep on claiming that no one cares about Rosberg...

 

[Chuck]

Last Alt+F1 of the year.
( ;-7

 

[Psychotext]

Did you see the TV ratings for last race? They were actually pretty damn good. I really don't why you just keep on claiming that no one cares about Rosberg...

Last German races I went to, no-one gave a shit about Rosberg or Vettel. Mercedes and Ferrari were very popular though, and Hamilton had a boatload of fans.

 

[chadskin]

Rosberg 2016:

Die Mannschaft 2014:

I'll rest my case.

Spoiler

 

[Myoclonic Jerk]

Rosberg 2016:


Die Mannschaft 2014:


I'll rest my case.

Spoiler

Can't really compare..

But I agree on popularity, football is way ahead than all motorsports combined and multiplied by 10

 

[xrnzaaas]

Team radios of 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1O4PAZHLyOk

Alonso's are my favorite, but Vettel would be in close second.

 

[Zeknurn]

WEC and FE Clash remains despite German GP Axe

Still shitty.

 

[ramparter]

Early season pecking order prediction:

McLaren
Red Bull
Mercedes
Toro Rosso
Ferrari
Williams
Renault
Force India
HAAS
Renamed Manor
Sauber

Actual order:

Red Bull
Mercedes
Ferrari
Force India
McLaren
Renault
Torro Rosso
Haas
Williams
Sauber
Manor

 

[Zeknurn]

Actual order:

Red Bull
Mercedes







Ferrari
Force India
McLaren
Renault
Torro Rosso
Haas
Williams
Sauber
Manor

ftfy

 

[Norwegian Rudo]

Much of his support here seems to be more 'I dislike Hamilton' rather then 'I like Rosberg'.

That should be "I dislike Hamilton fans".

 

[Dutch Gronk]

I can't wait.

2017 is going to be the year of the prancing horse.

There is no doubt about that!

WE FINALLY DID IT AGAIN

 

[chadskin]

Can't really compare..

But I agree on popularity, football is way ahead than all motorsports combined and multiplied by 10

Alright, alright. How about ...

Rosberg 2016

Vettel 2010

 

[Aiii]

Still not entirely fair, because Vettel has a German hometown, Nico grew up in Monaco.

Maybe they can rename it Monico for the occasion.