scorcher59
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experience is becoming quite the commodity in F1 this days it seems...
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Formula 1 2016 Season |OT2| BUT GRO PER
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Adam Scott Aukerman
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Bottas seems like a sure thing now. It will be interesting to see if he belongs in the top.
It seems like they did. BBC is saying 17m euros.
They have, but there also comes a point where you;re being a bit of a dick standing in a drivers way of the best seat he'll probably ever get. Williams aren't a team that behaves like that.
But why? D:
Yeah, sure, but why the continuity?
I feel the complete opposite.
This is the most boring way Rosberg leaving could have turned out.
Jezbollah
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I think the most boring way would have been to bring in Wehrlein
Fox Mulder
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Yep, another no personality robot. Pretty convenient that Toto is his manager.
If they at least went with Wehrlein we could hope for Vettel or Alonso in 2018. That isn't happening now.
I'd rather their cars compete with the Mercs instead of just jump in one. It'll be more interesting of someone like Bottas can take the fight to Hamilton from within the team instead of a former world champion.
Bottas seems like a block of ice. I wonder if Lewis will try to mess with him.
But, to be honest, Bottas only raced along with guys known for being really nice folks (Maldonado and Massa). Let's see how things will work for him with a diva like Lewis on the same garage.
Yeah, makes sense. :3
But, to be honest, Bottas only raced along with guys known for being really nice folks (Maldonado and Massa). Let's see how things will work for him with a diva like Lewis on the same garage.
Yeah, makes sense. :3
At least that would have been a bit unpredictable. Mercedes can barely handle Hamilton's personality (which isn't even as bad as the haters make out), Toto would have a breakdown if he had to deal with a new kid as well.
I'm including Massa coming back as part of this most boring timeline, he's a fine driver that will do a good job but it's hard to care anymore.
Wax Free Vanilla
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Those Manor rumours must be true. Ronbo's boys at McLaren are jumping ship to join him there 😮
Massa knows the team, the engineers, the mechanics and the car from the last few years. He knows their procedures, their systems etc. With a rule change such as this putting him in the car is their best shot at getting the on track information they need without having to get a new driver up to speed.
Weird, after Vettel or Alonso getting the seat, Bottas looks like a decent 3rd choice for me. He's fast, he can race, and for Merc he'll tow the line and probably not cry too loud.
bobnowhere
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I suppose it will be BOT GRO PER next year then.
The fact that Wolfe is his manager was a pretty strong hint they were always looking at him very seriously.
The fact that Wolfe is his manager was a pretty strong hint they were always looking at him very seriously.
Jezbollah
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I think it was incredibly unlikely that either Vettel or Alonso would get the seat - they've got pretty watertight contracts, and Williams have their working relationship with Mercedes that the latter could use to benefit both with a deal.
Anyway. Danny Ric is a legend. He turned up to a children's hospital in Western Australia where a friend and his daughter are currently at. What a star. Cheered both of them up immensely.
Jezbollah
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Psychotext
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lol
xrnzaaas
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Ebenezer Tost, ugh.
Have 3 mixed* grid sprint races on the Saturday. Final positions in those races contribute to your start position on the Sunday for the final race. Having a Manor on pole for 1 of the sprint races /trollface
I think Americans would prefer that.
*Mixed as in each driver starts in a front, middle back position for each of the races.
Jezbollah
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World Superbike went to a two race format. It resulted in drastically reduced numbers on the Sunday, with Saturday appealing to lot more (but nowhere near the numbers expected).
The only real winners in this kind of change are those who camp the entire weekend.
Jezbollah
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Err, no. MotoGP doesnt do that - its called sunday warmup
F1 used to do it...MotoGP does three normal timed practice sessions that dont matter for anything, and a fourth that separates the top 10 from the rest of the field. A first qualifying session, QP1, happens with the rest of the field with the top two going on to a final qualifying session of the fastest runners (QP2).
FP1, FP2 take place on Friday. FP3, FP4 and QP1 and QP2 take place Saturday. Warm up and single race takes place on Sunday. MotoGP cant do anything like a qualifying race on Sunday because they also have warm ups and races for Moto2 and Moto3 world championships.
As an American, let me break this terrible idea down point by point.
Want to make the sport more appealing? Increase on track action.
They aren't running the European races 3 hours later (West Coast start time of 8 AM instead of 5 AM) so I'm not understanding how the rest of the changes are relevant?
There is some overlap between NASCAR and F1, but not much. I know this because I actively watch both series (and IndyCar and the NASCAR Truck Series and sometimes the Xfinity stuff if Kyle Busch isn't fucking it up for everyone else involved)
NASCAR fans don't care about short races. Races on average go on for over 3 hours. Having two short races instead of qualifying and one longer race won't make a difference. Instead they just need to focus on making the races more exciting. Doing that, while improving the quality of the broadcast in America as well as the options on how to consume the race will bring improved viewing figures.
Doing away with Friday's on track action would be fine by me though.
You get the American audience by getting some form of coverage on ESPN, not Fox, not NBC, no one even knows F1 exists here because ESPN doesn't talk about it on sports center, since I've been watching F1 in the middle of 2008 season twice I have seen F1 on an ESPN property, the pigeon back flipping out of the way of Nico's front wing in Monaco on sports center, and online there was a headline when Seb won for Toro Roso. Stories like Max's win or Nico's retirement would get tons of attention here but no one knows they exist, NASCAR used to be talked about, but ESPN doesn't have the rights to that anymore so it barley gets mentioned.
*shakes fist at cloud*
ESPN used to be awesome, always showing sports or sports highlights. It's just talking heads now. It's also clearly apparent, as you mentioned, that they only promote what they or ABC/Disney have he rights to (see: NHL). But I also agree them getting the rights would boost awareness if nothing else.
As far as the race weekend, I think Friday could go as well. I would love a return of something like the Pro Car (?) challenge where the grid races a spec race. Put them in Miatas or Toyobarus or something. I'd just love the see the drivers race in spec cars even if it doesn't mean anything in terms of the WDC/WCC.
ESPN used to be awesome, always showing sports or sports highlights. It's just talking heads now. It's also clearly apparent, as you mentioned, that they only promote what they or ABC/Disney have he rights to (see: NHL). But I also agree them getting the rights would boost awareness if nothing else.
As far as the race weekend, I think Friday could go as well. I would love a return of something like the Pro Car (?) challenge where the grid races a spec race. Put them in Miatas or Toyobarus or something. I'd just love the see the drivers race in spec cars even if it doesn't mean anything in terms of the WDC/WCC.
PdotMichael
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Yeah, turning it into an Indy car series with less American drivers will sure help F1 in the USA!.
Fox Mulder
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pretty much.
They don't need sprint races and shit. NBC Sports f1 coverage is low budget and fucking sucks. Will always be limited really as the races are like at 4AM live in the US.
It's better than not having every race available live.
Ideally, there is a $49.99 package or something that can be purchased next year that just gives you a stream of everything without commercials.
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