Flo_Evans said:
It seems to me that the problem with online racing (with strangers) is that there are no race officials to speak of. In a real race That person would be black flagged, penalized on the next race, given a drive through penalty, fined, ect.
I guess it would be pretty hard for the game to determine who is at fault in all but blatantly obvious incidents but it would be nice if someone would at least attempt some sort of race officiating in sim racers.
Being run over at a corner should be pretty obvious. I really like Supercar Challenge's penalty system. I never played Ferrari Challenge and it could have existed at that point. It's something I hope more developers look at.
qirex99 said:
Artistic and technical expression is the developers right. You guys all kvetching about it, should send an email or post on the online forums. (with tin hats on)
Who do I email exactly? Think it would be nice to take all of these complaints and filter them to one comprehensive document for the team to read over if they were interested. Saves them the effort of having to go through hundreds of posts to get the info they need.
The simple fact is that T10 knows a LOT about their game, racing and cars and the various racing communities.
I see your overall point and I can appreciate what T10 is trying to accomplish to some degree.
But you can't say there's anything wrong with pointing out the reasons why T10 shouldn't do what they've done. The argument that most new players don't own many >A class cars is a very good one.
At the same time I am starting to get skeptical about your first point about T10 knowing a lot of about their community. I think some critical decision like the pre-race countdown would have been much different if they knew their fanbase a bit more.
If you dont like it, get your lazy ass off the couch and MAKE YOUR OWN!!
It would take me millions in capital to make a game comparable to FM3. If making a game like FM3 was easy everyone would be doing it. I'm astounded that a game like this was pumped out in 18 months to be frank. Keep in mind that I'm not asking for anything more than what the game offers I'm just asking for some things to be done a tad differently.
/ends rant re: unmotivated, lazy, yet highly critical and cheap gamers/
I think us complainers are highly motivated in the sense that we want to see this great game live up to it's potential. If I was asking for more tracks or cars then yeah maybe I am being needlessly critical. If I was asking for brand new modes that was beyond the capabilities of the game then yeah I'm pretty cheap. All I was asking for was doing things in different ways.
Asking for a more robust elimination mode or qualifying trials before races option is only asking for a very minor tweak to the code. All the variables are there and you don't have to add anything new really. It will add some more testing if anything.
For example the proposed elimination mode uses variables already found in the game. The game already tells you the time/distance between the guy in front of you and the guy behind you. The game could just check it against a variable set by the host. So the host says if the person in last place if 5 seconds behind the guy ahead of him he is knocked out. Or alternatively if they are 100m behind them. So just one more variable that is checked maybe every second. In the end you got a mode that's akin to Tokyo Xtreme Racer or Initial D Arcade Stage. It would be great for the long circuits/tracks. The elimination mode currently in the game would be unfeasible for the Ring for example.
For the record I'm not against the idea of hoppers.
I put this disclaimer in an earlier post but I might as well mention it again. I might sound like a whiny prick but I'm only focusing on the negatives that I see at this point. I'm almost comparing this game to what a perfect sim racer would be. Of course given the short development time of this game I can't expect it to be perfect but it's pretty close I'm sure we'll all admit. I'm trying to keep my criticism/suggestions to a more feasible and realistic expectation.
I'll get into the more positive aspects a bit later. There are things done in FM3 that should be a benchmark for all other games nevermind racers. That whole idea with the "following" other players is genius. Any game featuring UGC has to implement this. It's also great to be able to follow other racers to compare their times to yours without having to add them to your friends list...
Still why was System Link removed? AAAAAAAUUUUUUGGGGHHHHH
*whine*