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[twobear]

Are we really trying to see details in those shots?

There's clearly a reduction of polygonal detail in the buildings. In the first shot one of the buildings on the left that had fully modelled windows before has clearly been replaced with a flat, textured polygon for the final game.

[edit] Although they've also clearly tweaked the colours which can be misleading.

 

[saladine1]

Someone posted the list of the DLC pack quoting Xbox Smart Glass as a source...legit I don't know..

1989 Toyota MR2 SC

2002 Lotus Esprit V8

2002 Acura RSX

1979 Chevrolet Camaro Z28

2013 BMW M6 Coupe

1987 Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500

1969 Dodge Charger R/T

1987 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am GTA

2011 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Quadrifoglio Verde

 

[Terbinator]

Microsoft has seen fit to send me 2 codes for additional cars for Forza 5 that I will not be using. I have included said codes in email tags in this post.

Audi Forza Motorsport R8 5.2 FSI Quattro


2011 McLaren Forza Motorsport 12C

Says invalid code on the Marketplace wbesite :/

 

[stlobus]

Says invalid code on the Marketplace wbesite :/

Apparently I need to work on actually reading the entirety of the emails. The codes aren't valid until 11/22.

Terbinator, I've got the codes removed from the post and they're all yours. Shoot me a PM on Friday if you need them again.

 

[eso76]

Someone posted the list of the DLC pack quoting Xbox Smart Glass as a source...legit I don't know..

1989 Toyota MR2 SC

2002 Lotus Esprit V8

2002 Acura RSX

1979 Chevrolet Camaro Z28

2013 BMW M6 Coupe

1987 Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500

1969 Dodge Charger R/T

1987 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am GTA

2011 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Quadrifoglio Verde

Oooh...wait, i am not entirely sure but i have this weird feeling these are all cars that were in FM4 already ? COULD IT BE ?

 

[Ty4on]

Obviously it's not conclusive given the extreme compression and video sizes (near final version being 1080p footage, the original E3 footage being 720p), and different views (cockpit vs outside) etc, but to me at least it looks like there may have been a few downgrades in areas. I like that they've toned down bloom in certain segments, and that they've added glass to certain windows etc, but overall IQ, cleanliness, lighting and in areas, AO and texture/geometry detail just seems to have taken a dive.

Original reveal top, newer build bottom.

If you somehow can't see it just look at the buildings. Prague is now a cardboard city

 

[G Rom]

Someone posted the list of the DLC pack quoting Xbox Smart Glass as a source...legit I don't know..

1989 Toyota MR2 SC

2002 Lotus Esprit V8

2002 Acura RSX

1979 Chevrolet Camaro Z28

2013 BMW M6 Coupe

1987 Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500

1969 Dodge Charger R/T

1987 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am GTA

2011 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Quadrifoglio Verde

Holy shit, if true, that's even worse than what I could have imagined, even as a worst case scenario !

 

[Terbinator]

Interestingly it seems the road texture is now cobbles in-place of a smooth road form the reveal.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Holy shit, if true, that's even worse than what I could have imagined, even as a worst case scenario !

Oh it's true. SatNiteEduardo on the FM.net forums posted screenshots from the app.

I can't wait to hear this spun.

 

[Terbinator]

Well I'll just look on the bright side, they saved me 10 bucks....

Quite.

 

[Betta Lines]

There's clearly a reduction of polygonal detail in the buildings. In the first shot one of the buildings on the left that had fully modelled windows before has clearly been replaced with a flat, textured polygon for the final game.

The first shot is the only one that is clearly a reduction in detail, but it looks like the full texture hasn't drawn in properly, perhaps it's just an isolated case?

 

[SarBear]

The car choices for paid DLC are thrilling.

 

[Xamdou]

Can you still customize cars? Is the Fujimi Kado map making a return?

 

[Shortt Sirket]

You guys are making me feel like I am crazy. That list looks pretty awesome to me.

Edit: I mean, come on! First gen SC MR2! The crazy fast V6TT GTA! The crazy fun RS500!

And no, I am not being sarcastic. I genuinely love cars like that.

 

[SarBear]

You guys are making me feel like I am crazy. That list looks pretty awesome to me.

2002 RSX? :-/

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

You guys are making me feel like I am crazy. That list looks pretty awesome to me.

It's not so much the content of the list per se as the fact that, with the obvious exception of the LaFerrari, every single car is a carryover from FM4 or Horizon.

 

[Shortt Sirket]

2002 RSX? :-/

If it is the Type-S, sure! That was the last generation Integra and it was a great little FWD car.

It's not so much the content of the list as the fact that, with the obvious exception of the LaFerrari, every single car is a carryover from FM4 or Horizon.

Now that I can understand. That does bother me too, but I actually dig the cars in the pack.

 

[JackAubrey]

I'm happy with that list mainly because the Esprit V8 is one of my favourite cars. And I used to own a Sierra 2,0 Ghia.

---

On the subject of AO and Aliasing I think we need to wait and see what changes (if any) exist this time around in image quality in different kinds of events. It may be that more graphical features are available when the AI count is low or in time trial.

 

[p3tran]

Someone posted the list of the DLC pack quoting Xbox Smart Glass as a source...legit I don't know..

1989 Toyota MR2 SC

2002 Lotus Esprit V8

2002 Acura RSX

1979 Chevrolet Camaro Z28

2013 BMW M6 Coupe

1987 Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500

1969 Dodge Charger R/T

1987 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am GTA

2011 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Quadrifoglio Verde

its 100% legit

turn 10 = corporate crack whores confirmed!

.-

 

[Xanadu]

Someone posted the list of the DLC pack quoting Xbox Smart Glass as a source...legit I don't know..

1989 Toyota MR2 SC

2002 Lotus Esprit V8

2002 Acura RSX

1979 Chevrolet Camaro Z28

2013 BMW M6 Coupe

1987 Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500

1969 Dodge Charger R/T

1987 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am GTA

2011 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Quadrifoglio Verde

1 new car...just wow

 

[cbox]

Are you talking about the solid shadow that stays under cars separate from the dynamic shadow the car casts?

Those are there in real life...even in 99% of overcast situations. Why would you take that out when it's there in reality?

Of course they are there in real life... Not denying that, but they need to be toned down or at least adjusted a bit. Smoother around the edges perhaps.

 

[G Rom]

I guess they didn't lie on the name of the pack, it truly is the LaFerrari pack

Spoiler

with 9 cars thrown in as freebies.

Can't wait for the Corvette C7 pack, the Jaguar F-Type pack and the Lamborghini Veneno pack...

 

[Cipher Soze]

Someone posted the list of the DLC pack quoting Xbox Smart Glass as a source...legit I don't know..

1989 Toyota MR2 SC

2002 Lotus Esprit V8

2002 Acura RSX

1979 Chevrolet Camaro Z28

2013 BMW M6 Coupe

1987 Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500

1969 Dodge Charger R/T

1987 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am GTA

2011 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Quadrifoglio Verde

Just fucking LOL at that list. Pure, unadulterated money grubbing IMO. Whether it be T10's or Microsoft's policy. I'm looking forward to what semantic tricks the chief sophists over at FM.net use to justify this.

 

[drugstore_cowboy]

But..but...doors open.

Possibly.

Open wheel, open door, open wallet.

 

[Ryan242004]

I guess they didn't lie on the name of the pack, it truly is the LaFerrari pack

Spoiler

with 9 cars thrown in as freebies.

Can't wait for the Corvette C7 pack, the Jaguar F-Type pack and the Lamborghini Veneno pack...

Exactly how it will be. Very very disappointing.

 

[dragonelite]

If you somehow can't see it just look at the buildings. Prague is now a cardboard city

Could be everything different lighting or a streaming and lod issue.

 

[Slayer-33]

Could be everything different lighting or a streaming and lod issue.

Textures loading imo

 

[p3tran]

Could be everything different lighting or a streaming and lod issue.

with what I've seen till now, it may very well be the missing texture pack pass

 

[Mascot]

Open wheel, open door, open wallet.

Damn, you are GOOD at these.
There's a £150k pa job as a copywriter with Saatchi & Saatchi waiting for you somewhere, mate.

 

[eso76]

Just fucking LOL at that list. Pure, unadulterated money grubbing IMO. Whether it be T10's or Microsoft's policy. I'm looking forward to what semantic tricks the chief sophists over at FM.net use to justify this.

you seem to be forgetting that all cars were remodeled from the ground up ! So they are like entirely new cars !
oh wait, no they weren't.

But they are autovista !
you can open hood, trunk and..no, wait, you can only open the doors. So basically you can take a good look at dem dashboards and seats, without having to use fm4 photomode glitch !
Will you at least be able to do that in the middle of any track ? Doubtful.

I wish I hadn't preordered, for real.

 

[Terbinator]

I wish I hadn't preordered, for real.

Cancel then?

Apparently I need to work on actually reading the entirety of the emails. The codes aren't valid until 11/22.

Terbinator, I've got the codes removed from the post and they're all yours. Shoot me a PM on Friday if you need them again.

Well i didn't write them down and i'm not sure if anyone else did. I'll take the McLaren though, if possible, and feel free to distribute the other car as you want

 

[Gestault]

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(Strongly recommend against quoting gifs)

 

[Mascot]

I wish I hadn't preordered, for real.

I think you'll be glad you did come Friday and you've got it in your hands.

 

[eso76]

I think you'll be glad you did come Friday and you've got it in your hands.

yeah I don't doubt that, but this is enraging.

 

[shandy706]

Could be everything different lighting or a streaming and lod issue.

What two videos did they come from?

Looks exactly like an LOD and texture streaming issue.

It's noticeable but not nearly as horrid as what we've seen in inFamous at times.

I'm sure we'll see things like this across many early next-gen games.

 

[flashmouth]

There are some new videos up @ IGN
http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/11/19/forza-5-mazda-rx-8-at-laguna-seca

http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/11/19/forza-5-lotus-2-eleven-at-silverstone

http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/11/19/forza-5-lexus-at-lemans

 

[JackAubrey]

There are some new videos up @ IGN
http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/11/19/forza-5-mazda-rx-8-at-laguna-seca

Why do these idiots always have the racing line on. And they are going to review?

 

[JackAubrey]

Here are some other vids:

http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/11/19/forza-5-lotus-2-eleven-at-silverstone

http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/11/19/forza-5-lexus-at-lemans

 

[Xanadu]

Why do these idiots always have the racing line on. And they are going to review?

have you seen their driving? i drove better as a toddler

 

[Afro]

There are some new videos up @ IGN
http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/11/19/forza-5-mazda-rx-8-at-laguna-seca

http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/11/19/forza-5-lotus-2-eleven-at-silverstone

Love how angry that RX-8 sounds. No more synthetic engine/exhaust sounds. Bring the gritty, throaty sound design this gen.

 

[Filler Bunny]

http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/11/19/forza-5-lexus-at-lemans

GAH!!!

The guy playing is TERRIBLE!

People who race dirty like that online make me want to get out the car and choke a bitch. I love the idea of drivatars, but i get the feeling people like him are going to make me turn it off...

 

[drugstore_cowboy]

Here are some other vids:

http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/11/19/forza-5-lotus-2-eleven-at-silverstone

http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/11/19/forza-5-lexus-at-lemans

Ah man.

When I saw those dark clouds at Le Mans it looked like a different time of day then the sun popped in.

 

[eso76]

from smartglass app.
nice lighting and paint

no idea how to search for clips.

(replay footage anywhere?)

 

[JackAubrey]

Terrible driving by the IGN team aside - I thought the AI looked really good in those clips.

 

[Racer1977]

The Forza Horizon DLC was a bit of a downer, and a major reason I passed on that, it's really sad to see existing cars (to the franchise), used as filler to justify paying for one or two major additions.

In car games, I'm a big fan of car/track DLC, it's the perfect genre for this sort of stuff, but if they screw customers over, it can do serious damage to the franchise.

I realise T10 are part of MS, but Dan Greenawalt needs to stand up for "his" product, Yamauchi had too much freedom with GT5, (he seems to have been reigned in with GT6), while the guys at Evolution took the brave step to delay Driveclub. Would have been understandable if T10 released a prologue of some sort, giving a teaser of what will come in a year or two with a full, next-gen, Forza.

This is all leaving a bad taste in the mouth.

 

[Xanadu]

Terrible driving by the IGN team aside - I thought the AI looked really good in those clips.

yea i saw plenty of realistic mistakes, i'm guessing that was the easiest difficulty though as even that guy was passing them

also white wheels on the lotus (cant believe thats a new feature)

 

[op_ivy]

But..but...doors open.

Possibly.

Open wheel, open door, open wallet.

OT 2 title

 

[phosphor112]

Obviously it's not conclusive given the extreme compression and video sizes (near final version being 1080p footage, the original E3 footage being 720p), and different views (cockpit vs outside) etc, but to me at least it looks like there may have been a few downgrades in areas. I like that they've toned down bloom in certain segments, and that they've added glass to certain windows etc, but overall IQ, cleanliness, lighting and in areas, AO and texture/geometry detail just seems to have taken a dive.

Original reveal top, newer build bottom.

Oh my Jesus... Hopefully that's some data streaming issue... but damn that's one big downgrade.

Could be everything different lighting or a streaming and lod issue.

My thoughts exactly.

from smartglass app.
nice lighting and paint

no idea how to search for clips.

(replay footage anywhere?)

This place is my home. ^__^

If I don't attend the races, I can hear the cars from where I live. So good.

 

[Fistexe]

from smartglass app.
nice lighting and paint

no idea how to search for clips.

(replay footage anywhere?)

It's under game clips section =)

I saw one replay, search andyzei Gamertag in friends menu.

 

[CrudeDiatribe]

I'll probably buy the Trans Am. '80s kid.

People who race dirty like that online make me want to get out the car and choke a bitch.

Really?

As for Drivatars, I believe they come from your friend-list and from comparable people on the leaderboards. You're hopefully going to be able hot lap faster than the assholes who drive like that.