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FRINGE Season 3 |OT| Inexplicably renewed for a 4th season!
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UraMallas said:
Olivia has special abilities with no outward indication, so it is a clear failure in his data.
Observers are just really, really old, having mastered tons and tons of technologies and sciences before sealing humanity's latent powers and stifling its technological development.
Oh shit that Peter-vision was sweet.
Preview looks great. Love me some shapeshifters.
Alright and guys, we've been shown multiple times in numerous ways that the other side is much much different. We don't need to be told why they occasionally need oxygen in construction zones or what has replaced pens. We already have precedence to assume that it's different for a reason, and going out to explain every single one of those reasons would be ridiculous.
Preview looks great. Love me some shapeshifters.
Alright and guys, we've been shown multiple times in numerous ways that the other side is much much different. We don't need to be told why they occasionally need oxygen in construction zones or what has replaced pens. We already have precedence to assume that it's different for a reason, and going out to explain every single one of those reasons would be ridiculous.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Walternate's ominous line: "I just have a much bigger lab now."
Confirmation that Waltenate is causing all the blights in the world?
Confirmation that Waltenate is causing all the blights in the world?
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Doesn't mean I don't wanna know why the air is compromised.big ander said:
I love hearing of the little differences and why they are different.PhoncipleBone
Banned
Pens were answered. Everything is digital now. The patients couldn't handle digital interfaces, but pen and paper worked well.UraMallas said:
UraMallas said:
You're right I'm being testy.PhoncipleBone said:Doesn't mean I don't wanna know why the air is compromised.
They oxygen...it looked like they were building something, maybe a common building material over there is also volatile for a time? Or maybe they were digging down into pockets of gas.
Not a bad theory. The end of the episode didn't necessarily point in that direction, but Milo could pop up again.DarthWoo said:
Oh yeah also, glyphs in the episode were BREACH.
Anybody catch good ol' September?
Jay Shadow
Member
Because the other side is just that awesome.UraMallas said:
Keyser Soze
Member
As with every Brad Anderson episode, this one was awesome.
Walternate's just so far up the chain of command with so much under his control. He's got Fringe beneath him along with the rest of the Department of Defense. He's simply operating on a far larger scale than a laboratory, with far bigger stakes. It's his responsibility to save the world. I don't think the line is so much ominous as grave.
... I don't think that's how you should read the line.PhoncipleBone said:
Walternate's just so far up the chain of command with so much under his control. He's got Fringe beneath him along with the rest of the Department of Defense. He's simply operating on a far larger scale than a laboratory, with far bigger stakes. It's his responsibility to save the world. I don't think the line is so much ominous as grave.
Vlodril
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Excellent episode. The "villain" was fantastic. Great job by the actor who not only sold the genius part but the smug part as well. I think Anna Torv gets harsh judgement. She is doing a great work being Altlivia and then suddenly getting Ourlivia flashes. Altlivia is more carefree or even callus some times i think , where Ourlivia seems less happy more serious.
Anyway this season is off to a great start , i cant believe i stop watching this show on the first 10 episodes of the first season and then randomly picked it up again.
Anyway this season is off to a great start , i cant believe i stop watching this show on the first 10 episodes of the first season and then randomly picked it up again.
SolidusDave
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I agree with some of the theories here.
Observers are not actually from the future but can predict the future just like the villain in this episode. Obviously they may be First People who are that smart w/o drugs etc.
IIRC Before they predict something they also just look in the air as if they would calculate the effects of an action, you don't see them using technology for this.
We will probably see this dude again as he can predict many moves of the our universe if they feed him with enough data. He is quite powerful then because you can't dodge his "attacks" with skill or knowledge.
End of season 3: X-Men vs. Alt-X-Men!
I like the idea that all the catastrophic events in their universe are not actually caused by our Walter but are side-effects of Walternate who tried to get his son back & harm our universe. His character (because he was never changed by Bell) will take much bigger risks and won't care about casualties, so maybe in the beginning something went very wrong. This would also be a way to redeem our Walter to some extend.
Observers are not actually from the future but can predict the future just like the villain in this episode. Obviously they may be First People who are that smart w/o drugs etc.
IIRC Before they predict something they also just look in the air as if they would calculate the effects of an action, you don't see them using technology for this.
We will probably see this dude again as he can predict many moves of the our universe if they feed him with enough data. He is quite powerful then because you can't dodge his "attacks" with skill or knowledge.
End of season 3: X-Men vs. Alt-X-Men!
I like the idea that all the catastrophic events in their universe are not actually caused by our Walter but are side-effects of Walternate who tried to get his son back & harm our universe. His character (because he was never changed by Bell) will take much bigger risks and won't care about casualties, so maybe in the beginning something went very wrong. This would also be a way to redeem our Walter to some extend.
More thoughts:
- Walter was being literal last season when he mentioned holes in the very fabric of the universe. Fringe events are literally miniature dimensional rifts that allow the Earth's atmosphere to sieve through at some slow rate that could at times inhibit normal breathing (like suddenly switching to a higher altitude with less-dense air). When they get bad enough, Quarantine Amber becomes necessary to seal the entire area and prevent any significant leaks.
- Walter's line about "a much bigger lab" at the end ties back to Broyle's line from the Pilot,
- I'm fully convinced that the connection to the Observer ability was intentional. The previous theory (from Brendan) was that they were Observing the timeline all at once, but I think it is a nice twist that they're not actually watching time as they are calculating it. They're just standing there for eons, watching and calculating outcomes. But are they interfering at all? Who are the rogues or renegades that know of their existence that are trying to stop them (Mosley in The Arrival, the military guy in the one with exploding people).
This was just an awesome episode. I really love where they are going with this.
- Walter was being literal last season when he mentioned holes in the very fabric of the universe. Fringe events are literally miniature dimensional rifts that allow the Earth's atmosphere to sieve through at some slow rate that could at times inhibit normal breathing (like suddenly switching to a higher altitude with less-dense air). When they get bad enough, Quarantine Amber becomes necessary to seal the entire area and prevent any significant leaks.
- Walter's line about "a much bigger lab" at the end ties back to Broyle's line from the Pilot,
- I'm fully convinced that the connection to the Observer ability was intentional. The previous theory (from Brendan) was that they were Observing the timeline all at once, but I think it is a nice twist that they're not actually watching time as they are calculating it. They're just standing there for eons, watching and calculating outcomes. But are they interfering at all? Who are the rogues or renegades that know of their existence that are trying to stop them (Mosley in The Arrival, the military guy in the one with exploding people).
This was just an awesome episode. I really love where they are going with this.
The Big Rig
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That scene was destined for gif material. It works on so many levels too.Keyser Soze said:
Really cool episode. I'm really surprised that the novelty of the other side hasn't gone away.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Fucking loved this episode.
Great little Frank Miller details in the Alterverse (Aruba War), AWESOME Warren Ellis Math/Science, great stuff with Olivia, and NO BROYLES HAT.
Loving this season so far.
Great little Frank Miller details in the Alterverse (Aruba War), AWESOME Warren Ellis Math/Science, great stuff with Olivia, and NO BROYLES HAT.
Loving this season so far.
Nemesis121
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Olivia mind transfer is already cracking, so by mid-season we get the real Olivia back?
@Torv
...and I know she got a lot of flak for how sullen Olivia's character was in season 1. However, I can now cut her some slack and rationalize it as the writers intentionally exaggerating character traits between Olvia and Altlivia.
I don't mind MOTW episodes, but what they accomplished blending MOTW and plot deserves a medal. They achieved a remarkable balance this week.
...and I know she got a lot of flak for how sullen Olivia's character was in season 1. However, I can now cut her some slack and rationalize it as the writers intentionally exaggerating character traits between Olvia and Altlivia.
I don't mind MOTW episodes, but what they accomplished blending MOTW and plot deserves a medal. They achieved a remarkable balance this week.
Team Jones
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Keyser Soze said:
FOR THE WIN Personified!
LMAO!
Earl Cazone
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loved this episode. really really aweseom stuff.
btw can someone remind me, what bell did to walter? someone mentioned something on this page or the last and i forgot what he did
btw can someone remind me, what bell did to walter? someone mentioned something on this page or the last and i forgot what he did
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