Escape Goat
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X-Files originally started on Fridays and took off. Fridays are usually where shows go to die.
FRINGE Season 3 |OT| Inexplicably renewed for a 4th season!
- Thread starter PhoncipleBone
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X-Files originally started on Fridays and took off. Fridays are usually where shows go to die.
Rafa=FedKilla
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The Pretender did good on Fridays too.
water_wendi
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Going to disagree with this. Not much alike imo. Eugene Tooms was a mutant that hibernated after eating the livers of his victims. This is about a religious leader who uses youth to convince an old man into harvesting pineal glands from children so the minister can perform "miracles."Spire said:
Escape Goat
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I kind of thought Toomee was a nod to X-Files. Maybe just a coincidence.
Escape Goat
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Fringe got a 1.9 in ratings last week too.
Solideliquid
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Interesting thought I've been having about this show. It always seems that the technology on "the other side" is always more advanced. Is it possible the discrepancy in technology is due in part to the fact that Walter was in a psych hospital for the majority of Peter's life?
water_wendi
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i think a big part of it was that on our side William Bell ran Massive Dynamic and kept these kinds of technologies mostly private. In the alternate universe, Walternate joined the government and now the feds have that tech (i think there was reference to Fringe Division having much higher tech by the regular police either this episode or the one a couple weeks ago. Cant remember exact quote).Solideliquid said:
PhoncipleBone
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They were already way ahead of us before that. Remember Walter built a cell phone on our side in the early 80s (and I mean RAZR style phone) by observing the other side. They were always ahead of us. Walternate just helped keep them ahead.Solideliquid said:
Honestly, on the bright side, Fringe is pretty likely to get a 4th season in that time slot (lower expectations), and it seems like the show runners need about that much time to tell the story they're trying to tell.
Obviously I would NEVER advocate or be a fan of canceling a show I love but... four seasons is a pretty good run. Lost had 6, X-Files had about 6 good ones, etc.
I guess I'm just already moving into the acceptance phase of the grieving process :lol Still peeved that Fringe didn't turn into the television phenomenon it was poised to become in season 1, though.
Obviously I would NEVER advocate or be a fan of canceling a show I love but... four seasons is a pretty good run. Lost had 6, X-Files had about 6 good ones, etc.
I guess I'm just already moving into the acceptance phase of the grieving process :lol Still peeved that Fringe didn't turn into the television phenomenon it was poised to become in season 1, though.
Escape Goat
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Don't worry. We still got V.
Escape Goat
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Puncture said:
Nope. Season 2 starts in Jan.
OneEightZero
aka ThreeOneFour
Grr.
I shouldn't be surprised that FOX is going to death knell such a fantastic show. *fist shake*
I shouldn't be surprised that FOX is going to death knell such a fantastic show. *fist shake*
Fridays are Fringe's ONLY hope for survival.
Here's the silver lining: Fringe has an established fan base than isn't really lead-in dependent. Fox wants to strengthen their Friday nights. If it can average a 1.5 and trim its budget, it will look good for renewal.
Also, you can blame for for trying to kill the show, but the numbers weren't there for the past two seasons. I know the move to Thursdays hurt it, but even then, the show is down 17% this season. This is its best hope... sadly.
:lol
Here's the silver lining: Fringe has an established fan base than isn't really lead-in dependent. Fox wants to strengthen their Friday nights. If it can average a 1.5 and trim its budget, it will look good for renewal.
Also, you can blame for for trying to kill the show, but the numbers weren't there for the past two seasons. I know the move to Thursdays hurt it, but even then, the show is down 17% this season. This is its best hope... sadly.
Teh Hamburglar said:
:lol
Escape Goat
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ivysaur12 said:
V is good. Have you even watched it?
CajoleJuice
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I watched the first episode. That was enough.Teh Hamburglar said:
Escape Goat
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CajoleJuice said:
So one episode and you pass judgement on the series? Mmkay.
OneEightZero
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I thought it was pretty funny in the last episode that Olivia needed a pager along with her 'ear ring'. ^_^Solideliquid said:
heliosRAzi
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I couldn't get into V. After LOST, I am really done with serialized TV. FRINGE is different somehow. At first, it started off with something small like ZFT and then grew and grew layer by layer until it became this. I actually like it better now that they are speeding through their mythology instead of dragging it out. To be honest, I feel that with these serialized shows, they should keep them to three to four seasons long and wrap everything up nice and neat
CajoleJuice
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Yep. Maybe if it had people whose opinion I cared about telling me it was good a year later I would have continued. But the consensus seemed to be that it sucked. Oh well, not surprised.Teh Hamburglar said:
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Fringe? Fridays? FUCK!
OneEightZero
aka ThreeOneFour
A nice trip down cancelled sci-fi, Friday death slot memory lane:
The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. (1993)
MANTIS (1994)
Strange Luck (1995)
VR.5 (1995)
Sliders (1996)
Millennium (1996)
The Visitor (1997)
Harsh Realm (1999)
Brimstone (1999)
Freakylinks (2000)
Dark Angel (2000)
The Lone Gunmen (2001)
John Doe (2003)
Firefly (2003)
Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (2009)
Dollhouse (2010)
Fringe (2011)*
Terra Nova (2012)*
*tenative
The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. (1993)
MANTIS (1994)
Strange Luck (1995)
VR.5 (1995)
Sliders (1996)
Millennium (1996)
The Visitor (1997)
Harsh Realm (1999)
Brimstone (1999)
Freakylinks (2000)
Dark Angel (2000)
The Lone Gunmen (2001)
John Doe (2003)
Firefly (2003)
Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (2009)
Dollhouse (2010)
Fringe (2011)*
Terra Nova (2012)*
*tenative
big ander said:
Oh, yea most definitely. The point of my post though was to point out how well Smallville has done on Fridays in the past few seasons. When the show sucked, ratings sucked. Since the increase in quality though, shock and awe, more people are tuning in. This final season is one of the best yet and is getting series high ratings I believe.
A small committed audience could definitely work for Fringe, much like Smallville and even Supernatural, which is also doing well for CW on Fridays I believe.
CajoleJuice said:
V turned out ok in the end, first 4 episodes were a mess going way too fast but then it started pulling itself together and by the end it had got pretty good. Some very memorable moments,
"Break her legs!"
It's not in the same league as Fringe or the original mini-series, both storytelling-wise and some of the characters are a bit weak, but if you take it for what it is it's enjoyable. Much more enjoyable than say Caprica, which was so far up it's own arse it ended up being a complete mess. Anna especially makes for an excellent villain.
The actress who played Diana in the original is coming back, and the backstory with her and Anna sounds quite well done and should be good to watch. Also looks like it's getting a bit darker from the teaser:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OqasiTOnzw
ivysaur12 said:
Yeah, you are way off here. The move to Thursday didn't "hurt it", but rather KILLED IT. S1 aired on Tuesdays, and averaged 10 million viewers weekly (don;t ave any demo numbers, sorry). There was literally NO reason for FOX to move it from Tuesdays - it was the centrepiece of that evening's programming. Instead they non-sensically moved it to the worst timeslot on TV, where they promptly lost almost half the audience in S2. The numbers this year are just the continued downswing from that fucking awful move pre-S2.
This show would still be one of FOX's top performers had those fucking morons not touched it.
Solo said:
They moved it there because they wanted to bolster their Thursdays, and thought a Bones/Fringe pairing would work. And it did - their Thursday were up last year by a lot. Unfortunately, Fringe has even started to drop the viewers it did have from the Thursday schedule. Instead of averaging around a 2.2-2.3, it's average a 1.9. That's not good.
close to the edge
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Oh come ON! I just got into the show a few weeks ago and now it might get cancelled? The fuck?
CajoleJuice
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It lost 1/3 of its audience by the third episode of S2.ivysaur12 said:
Works for me! Honestly, I think if we're given the option between:
a) S3 being the final season, and going out on an epic season-long run of greatness.
b) S4 being the final season, with drastic budget cuts, crappy timeslot, potential network re-tooling, etc.
I'd prefer scenario A. Very fews shows get to go out at their creative peak, but Fringe has that chance.
a) S3 being the final season, and going out on an epic season-long run of greatness.
b) S4 being the final season, with drastic budget cuts, crappy timeslot, potential network re-tooling, etc.
I'd prefer scenario A. Very fews shows get to go out at their creative peak, but Fringe has that chance.
OneEightZero
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Solo said:
End with S3, then green light a two hour finale that ties everything up?
CajoleJuice
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100% agreedSolo said:
Solo said:
If it isn't going to get an S4, I just hope they know well ahead of time and can make a proper conclusion. Arrested Development wrapped things up with a great, intentional finale because they knew it was going to be the end. Doing the same with a sci-fi serial is about an order of magnitude harder, but I hope they can pull it off if that is what it comes to.
I don't know...I understand wanting to go out on a creative peak, but I feel like that could sacrifice having a satisfying story conclusion. If the showrunners could manage to convince fox not to interfere, I would rather have a fourth season if it meant we got a satisfying end.Solo said:
This. Unintentional finales have worked for some shows (see Party Down and [somewhat] Journeyman) but I can't see it working for Fringe.Yawee said: