DoctorWho said:Isn't V on ABC?
Yes.
DoctorWho said:Isn't V on ABC?
Yeah.DoctorWho said:Isn't V on ABC?
NaM said:IF Fox cancels V, does that mean Fringe has more chances to get renewed?
lol yeah, nvm...DoctorWho said:Isn't V on ABC?
Fox should try and cancel it anyways.DoctorWho said:Isn't V on ABC?
NaM said:lol yeah, nvm...*leaves quietly*
Touche.big ander said:
Oh please cancel Chicago Code. Mediocre cop shows can all die.big ander said:Yeah.
One hypothesis from TVbytheNumbers was that either Chicago Code OR Fringe would be renewed. Not both.
Personally, I think both getting 13 episode seasons would be amazing.
TCC's far from mediocre. It's no Shield, hell it's no Southland. But it has only five episodes under its belt. It's not like it's another godawful CSI or NCIS or L&O or whatever spinoff.Decado said:Shit. I like hardly like anything on the big networks and Fringe is the only non-comedy I like. FOX cancelled my two favourite network shows and now they may cancel a 3rd?
Oh please cancel Chicago Code. Mediocre cop shows can all die.
Not as good as The Shield, The Wire, Southland etc....better than "godawful" CSI or NCIS. Sounds mediocre, to mebig ander said:TCC's far from mediocre. It's no Shield, hell it's no Southland. But it has only five episodes under its belt. It's not like it's another godawful CSI or NCIS or L&O or whatever spinoff.
Great job creating an informed opinion through misunderstanding what I posted!Decado said:Not as good as The Shield, The Wire, Southland etc....better than "godawful" CSI or NCIS. Sounds mediocre, to me
Ken Tucker said:The bonds of family, the ecstasy of romance, the exhilaration of intellectual inquiry, and a secret government agency working to protect you from all kinds of crazy, weird stuff. If I told you there was a TV series featuring all of that, plus great acting and superb action sequences, wouldnt you want to watch that?
Sure you would. And people who are watching Fringe now know its doing something rare: Its a TV show working on all levels, characters with which anyone can identify, imaginative scripts, crackling dialogue, and a positive message (boiled-down: All you need is love). Its the kind of show that, every time you finish watching the latest installment, you want to see its next episode right now.
A new episode of Fringe, titled Os, airs tonight, and as I explain and exhort in the new issue of Entertainment Weekly on sale today, youre making a mistake if you miss it.
But if youre not watching Fringe and in case you havent figured it out yet, this is a passionate please-save-Fringe plea to you and to the dear, intelligent, how-much-flattery-do-you-need folks at Fox heres what I suggest: Forget everything youve heard about Fringe. Banish the notion that youll be confused by the serialized nature of its storytelling, that its too deep into its mythology for you to catch up. Its not.
Because like the best TV, Fringe works on a number of levels, and one level is, its highly entertaining, accessible stuff. All you really need to know about Anna Torvs Olivia Dunham and Josh Jacksons Peter Bishop is that theyre brave investigators for the FBIs Fringe Division, seeking to solve the mysteries of our world, which may be in jeopardy from another, alternate version of our world. And, by the way, Peter and Olivia are in love in a manner thats so glowing with passion yet so challenged by emotional roadblocks thrown in their way, they make Romeo and Juliet look like Phil and Claire Dunphy.
And all you really need to know about John Nobles Walter Bishop is that hes a brilliant scientist whos also emotionally fragile, playfully eccentric, and a junk-food junkie (its unlikely any other genius has referred to Pop-Tarts as delicious strawberry-flavored death). Oh, and by the way, Noble deserves an Emmy for his extraordinarily delicate, wide-ranging performances.
At its big, red, throbbing heart, the show tells the story of a love so powerful, it crosses universes: When Peter was seven, he died. His brilliant-scientist father, Walter, having discovered that there was a parallel universe containing doubles of everyone here, transported himself to that Other Side and brought back that universes Peter, to love and to cherish. In doing so, he created not just a rift in the universes (which are now dangerously, explosively out of balance), but also a rift between father and son (when Peter discovered who he really was, and grappled with the idea that he belonged to another Walter, a Walternate).
This is the bare-bones version of Fringe, which is creatively capacious enough to also take in the dual nature that resides in every one of us; arcane conspiracy theories that end up as eerie realities; and the over-arching idea held by every regular reader of Entertainment Weekly that we can experience everything politics, art, philosophy, and cures for loneliness through the culture around us.
From The Twilight Zone to Battlestar Galactica, the sci-fi/fantasy genre has been downbeat, dystopian, pessimistic, and bleak. In that context, who can blame viewers leery of Fringe, after seeing all those Fox promos in which the heroes yelp variations on Our whole universe may end!? We get enough of that kind of message on other channels, like Fox News and MSNBC. Successful, hit TV shows, all hits of any pop-culture kind, have one thing in common: Reassurance. They make you feel that, when you get up off the sofa, youve not only been entertained and, at best, mentally stimulated, but youve also been assured that life goes on and the future is sustainable.
This positive, utopian, optimistic message is the one Fringe delivers; its just that it comes wrapped in a package that some people have too quickly pigeonholed as dark, gritty, complicated, and it might make my head hurt.
Im not going to guilt-trip you and say that if you dont watch Fringe, youre helping to create an atmosphere in which daring new shows wont make it onto future network schedules. Instead, Ill be sad that youre not sharing in what could be the best puzzle-pieced epic since Lost, and the best portrait of a fractious family since Frasier, or M*A*S*H. Because right now, Fringe is promising you nothing less than the world two of em, in fact.
Why do you think Fringe isnt more popular? Will you be watching it?
mm04 said:That article makes me sad. I hate those Nielsen box owners who aren't watching it live. They get pretty large DVR numbers every single week. If just .2 of that .9 or so that usually DVR and watch it later would watch it live, we'd be feeling a lot more comfortable right now.
the bolded parts are perfect. i was hooked and ran through the whole series up to the newest episode in february. every time an episode ended i wanted to watch the next one. and it's not like lost where they leave a cliffhanger at the end of EVERY episode, they made me want to be around the characters and settings more. walter bishop is one of my all-time favorite tv characters as of right now(that could change if something occurs in the fringe story)PhoncipleBone said:Just remember, new episode tonight. (crosses fingers for ratings hold or slight increase).
Ken Tucker did a write up about saving Fringe.
PhoncipleBone said:The only non repeat competition it has tonight is CSI: NY. All other shows are repeats tonight, so that should help some I would hope.
Telling ya, strawberry milkshakes are what need to be sent.mm04 said:Well, people could go out to see Battle: LA tonight. Or watch the world news regarding the earthquake. Either way, all we can do is hope at this point. When do we start our letter writing campaign?!
mm04 said:Well, people could go out to see Battle: LA tonight. Or watch the world news regarding the earthquake.
Why not buy the blu ray discs now and show support to WB before it dies? I know that DVD/Blu sales don't influence the show's fate, but it would help the people making it in some way.Decado said:I'm afraid now that I'm really getting into it, FOX will cancel it. I'd love to buy the blu-ray box set if this series is allowed to complete its full run. Two more seasons at 13 episodes should probably do it (they can pick up the pace).
Amazon has the second season for 28$.Decado said:I'm afraid now that I'm really getting into it, FOX will cancel it. I'd love to buy the blu-ray box set if this series is allowed to complete its full run. Two more seasons at 13 episodes should probably do it (they can pick up the pace).
ya 'rlyXMonkey said:Fox should try and cancel it anyways.
Solo said:"It was the 70s. What could he do?" :lol
Episode off to a great start
Bah. Fantastic start. Loved the trickery of making it seem like they were walking upside down only to show they werent.PsychoRaven said:It is but it's a damn slow start too.
I know. It is so sad seeing him like that when he talks about not being smart enough.Solo said:I love Walter's reaction whenever Peter and Olivia leave together. Also, he looks like a lost puppy when talking about Bell.
PhoncipleBone said:Only issue I have is how quickly he is getting these guys to get somewhat adept at robbery.