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FRINGE Season 3 |OT| Inexplicably renewed for a 4th season!
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Escape Goat
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big ander said:Then watch the rest and get the full story
If they were online, I would!
It's been doing pretty badly for a while now.iNvidious01 said:
Oh, they're online. Google-fu!Teh Hamburglar said:
See, I'd still disagree with this. You can certainly enjoy season 3 without having seen other episodes, but seeing the other episodes and knowing the complete backstory and watching the characters grow and the plots progress would significantly boost your enjoyment of the show.ultron87 said:
Escape Goat
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big ander said:
Legally?
Keyser Soze
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iNvidious01 said:
It's a bit bad, but Fringe is still doing better than other Fox shows (Terminator and Dollhouse) did on a Friday night, but it is dropping
To put things into perspective. Fringe drew in 13million+ viewers for the second episode of Season 1 (the best it ever did), and had a bunch of 10+ million viewers for a few episodes that year. For season 2 (when it moved to Thursday) it never broke 10million and dropped steadily all year ending with about 5million viewers for the last few episodes. The show kept that 5million number at the start of season 3 (when the show was still on a Thursday). It started to drop a bit though, and was at the 4.5 million mark for a few episodes before the switch to Friday. However, when it moved to Friday, it kept those numbers for the first few episode (which is good) and is now dipping under the 4million mark.
To compare, Dollhouse was canceled getting around 2million during its last few episodes of it second season, and Terminator was cancelled with around 3.5million for its last bunch for its second season.
BTW, the viewer numbers (in millions) is different that the rating share (the current been a 1.3 for Fringe). Terminator got canceled by Fox when it was around the low 1.X numbers (the last few episodes were ranging for 1.4 to 1.0)
IMO things are bad for Fringe now. It has one more episode left before a 3 week break, and if it pulls in bad numbers this Friday, FOX may not advertise its comeback on April 15th. Obviously, with no publicity, its numbers will fall more when it returns, and I cannot see it living to season 4 if it stays at 1.3 or drops lower as we close up season 3/
tl;dr If Fringe stays at 1.3 this week, it is gone (IMO)
What will be most awesome is bringing back Firefly once Castle is over.big ander said:
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Given March Madness that seems a bit silly. Granted I'd have look at how other shows faired but I assume most things did shit. Hell, most networks aren't even airing new eps during the bracket.Keyser Soze said:
Keyser Soze
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Raistlin said:
I should have stated that it will be gone, one again in my opinion. Fox just wont bother advertising its comeback if it goes into the break on a bad rating. Another bad rating on Friday will snowball into the show getting cancel in the future.
Basically, if I was a network exec (heartless and evil!!) this coming Friday is probably the most important episode of the season for Fringe. They wont cancel it regardless of the rating that night, but with a bad rating they could easily choose to let the show fizzle out without promotion (NBC Journeyman style).
Keyser Soze
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iNvidious01 said:
The move to Thursday (for Season 2) hurt it worse in the long run as it has been losing viewers week after week for the past 30 episodes whilst there.
The move to Friday was a last ditch effort to save it, as if the show pulled its Thursday numbers on a Friday that would be considered good by Fox (as very, very few shows do good on a Friday on US TV) - see Friday Night Death Slot.
It did keep its Thursday numbers for the first few Friday episodes, which would have pleased Fox. Although the last two episodes have started to see drops.
Personally, I think keeping it Thursday would have 100% killed the show come the end of this season. Fox could not have did a season 4 if numbers kept dropping on that day. They can however tolerate less viewers on Friday, thus giving the show some hope to survive.
The writing is on the wall, unfortunately. Ratings almost always go in one direction for shows that have been on a few seasons, and that is downward. Seeing that we're on life support now, its only going to get worse.
I still contend and always will that the dumbest thing FOX ever did was move it off Tuesdays.
I still contend and always will that the dumbest thing FOX ever did was move it off Tuesdays.
Solo said:
Easily the worst thing to do, especially given the tonal shift in the show from the first to second season.
Unfortunately, there's really little we can do now. FOX's schedule is super packed with room for maybe one bubble show. I think Fringe's days are numbered, as much as I hate to admit it. Unless if you're a Nielsen family, then WATCH THAT SHIT LIVE ASAP.
~66 episodes is nothing to scoff at. It's been a good series, let's enjoy the ending. There will be other shows that will (hopefully) take its place next season, like Alcatraz.
Spotless Mind
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I hope it doesn't get cancelled before it delves into the First People a bit more. Hopefully they at least tie-in to the endgame of this season.
Jace Lacob's advance review, minor spoilers
Cool,
Cool,
something at the end of the episode will be divisive. Can't wait.
I honestly didn't want it to last more than 3 seasons anyway. I see no point. I just hope the writers thought of things in the same manner.
Writers should be aware of cancellation and prepare a story that should be done with in 3 seasons.
Writers should be aware of cancellation and prepare a story that should be done with in 3 seasons.
Well it's not good either to plan a complete ending when renewal is still technically a possibility. Giving up isn't exactly more attractive to the network.Veidt said:
And there's a point to lasting longer than 3 seasons if we don't get an ending. And the writers probably didn't think of ending after 3 seasons ahead of time because again, you don't plan on failure. And I don't think they have time to do major rewrites and shooting changes considering there are only 5 episodes in 7 weeks left. I bet they're already shooting the last two episodes.
Essentially, all of what you're saying is impossible.
It is possible. Here in the UK. Great tv shows don't really last longer than 1-2 seasons. Because both the writers and the channel broadcasting are aware of what they want. The writers actually want to make a show that's worth while, and the BBC wants good shows, instead of ones that get most viewers. And ironically, they get the most viewers!
Y'all need to get on this shit yo.
Y'all need to get on this shit yo.
I know what's possible in the UK man, I'm not an idiot, but your post was acting like they can retroactively set up Fringe, a current serialized broadcast show, to make it last just three seasons when currently that's not doable while still giving us the full narrative.Veidt said:
Not even Walternate can do that kind of time travel
VistraNorrez
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Veidt said:
And if you ask those British writers they have a great respect for the great American TV shows because they can last so long at a high quality (usually the comedic shows). Most great British shows are written by a small group of people, often just a pair. The great US shows have a lot of writers and I've heard a few great Brits (Cleese, Gervais, Merchant, Pegg & Wright) say they think Americans might just work better in larger groups.
Of course the shows that only have a few seasons and end on a high note are better off. The British do care a more about the legacy of a show than most American TV producers. But cable TV producers seem to care more about quality too. All the great American dramas are on cable now. I think it's amazing Fringe has been able to get better as the seasons pass.
Escape Goat
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Have SyFy pick it up.
Renew Firefly.
Profit
Renew Firefly.
Profit
PhoncipleBone
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Exactly. Would you want a new series without Wash?Zoe said:
Firefly tried to come back with the movie and it was not a big financial success. Be thankful it even got the movie and some closure. It has been nearly 8 years since cancellation and almost 6 since the movie. Let it go for gods sake.
PhoncipleBone
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That is how I was the first time I saw the movie. I watched the pilot and the first episode and was "meh" on the show. I then gave the movie a try and thought it was pretty good, but nothing amazing.Zoe said:
A few weeks ago I finally watched the entire series followed by the movie, and I like it more now, but it is still not THAT amazing. I can see why people would be mad about Firefly's cancellation at the time, because it had some very good episodes (but more decent than great) and a lot of potential. But they were able to convince a studio that it was popular enough to come back for another shot, and that failed too. It has been over half a decade since the attempt to bring it back. People need to let it go.
Massive Nights
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Dan Harmon just tweeted that Fringe got picked up, is this true!?
Escape Goat
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Dan Harmon can't be wrong!
Big Papa Husker
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PLEASE GOD!Massive Nights said:
EDIT:
Joel Wyman (Producer) posted on his twitter: "Fringe was picked up!!!! Thanks Fringedom!"
http://twitter.com/JWFringe
jamesinclair
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If this is a lie, there must be bannings
Big Papa Husker
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OHHHH YEAH!!! =D They should move it back to Tuesday!
jamesinclair
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OH MY GOD THANK BOTH UNVISERRSES AND THEIR RESPECTIZVE GODS FOR THIS
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