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Full trailer for The Tomorrow War (July 2nd on Prime)
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Is he a cuck? I am confusedWatching now, still trying to work out the line:
‘he gave up his right to be a grandpa when he abandoned her husband.’
Insane Metal
Member
I thought it was funny when the black dude lost his shit shooting the aliens while saying SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT lol
That's pretty much me if I had to do that
That's pretty much me if I had to do that
Revolutionary
Gold Member
Pretty sure the line was "gave up his right to be a grandpa when he abandoned your husband", as he's talking to his wife.
Yeah lol
That actor is also the lead in Werewolves Within, and he was pretty funny in that one too. Though that film tries REALLY hard to be funny and quirky, to the point where it becomes a little obnoxious.
Goddamn that was stupid but fun. CHLOE from 24 was just a joy to see, if only they leaned into that and got Kiefer for a cameo.
Hollywood has GOT to retire the melee alien swarm concept for a few years. It sorta works in aliens because they have acid blood. These other ones would get decimated by a bulldozer or an F350, much less an actual armored vehicle.
And seriously, let's give everyone these useless .22 rifles that can't even penetrate instead of a proper .30 cal that could eviscerate these things from a block away. Yet the one guy who has fought them before requests a shotgun and no one wonders why?
And Yyvone Strahotski...still got it!
Anyway, Christian Bale and Matthew Mconahey did it better when it was called Reign of Fire
Hollywood has GOT to retire the melee alien swarm concept for a few years. It sorta works in aliens because they have acid blood. These other ones would get decimated by a bulldozer or an F350, much less an actual armored vehicle.
And seriously, let's give everyone these useless .22 rifles that can't even penetrate instead of a proper .30 cal that could eviscerate these things from a block away. Yet the one guy who has fought them before requests a shotgun and no one wonders why?
And Yyvone Strahotski...still got it!
Anyway, Christian Bale and Matthew Mconahey did it better when it was called Reign of Fire
captainraincoat
Banned
This movie was shit…u can see they simply collected the Netflix cheque and moved on….jk must of been laughing his ass off at the script
I’m not even going to go into the amount of plot holes this thing has and is another reason why streaming movies are cursed
I’m not even going to go into the amount of plot holes this thing has and is another reason why streaming movies are cursed
Hardensoul
Member
Damn, that's why it looked familiar. I enjoyed it, had to turn my brain off tho! lolHoly shit the writing in this is.. terrible
i enjoyed every second of this movie.
Go watch it..
Hands down my fave shitty movie in 2021
this movie i swear.. started as an alien 4 (aliens arrive on earth)
fuck even the promeuteus story is in this
movie.. Anyway.. they told the writers to go fuck off.
then they went to amazon and netflix to sell the idea.. amazon paid more
Then they changed the aliens with the monsters.. and BAM you got this movie..
This is the best alien film we got
I can not believe i am saying this.
But if you like alien go watch this
Hardensoul
Member
The plot of sending soldiers to fight in future to me is terrible. That's a major plot that doesn't compute to me.
They could've just prevented the whole timeline before Aliens attack, which they eventually decided to do at the end
To be fair, I don't think the future folks knew exactly when/where the aliens came from. Pratt figures this out on his own and can't get any government help due to the ongoing societal collapse.
But to me the obvious thing for the future folks to do in the past is go to Russia and get them working on it. Spending all their time trying to save a bit of America seems silly.
Plus, if one of the requirements is that you have to be dead/not born in the time you go to, and there really were just 500K people left in the future, seems like entire trained militaries could go forward, not just older folks. But that is just one of MANY script problems with this film.
Hardensoul
Member
Without going into spoilers, it seem to be more about PTSD. Grandpa and Dan's wife is a psychologist helping specifically with soldiers with PTSD.
Hardensoul
Member
Agree, it's why going in I turned my brain off and just enjoy the fun. The characters are likeable and not annoying or do really stupid stuff like the daughter in Army of the Dead.
ÆMNE22A!C
NO PAIN TRANCE CONTINUE
Yeah it's definitely an underlying theme that I personally appreciated. Just weird when set next to someone someone something something volcano help
Movie was all over the place but that's what made it fun for me in the end
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Cravis
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Watched half. I couldn’t turn my brain off long enough to stomach it any longer. This has to be one of the dumbest premises and concept in a long time and that’s saying something.
We’re losing a war so let’s draft people from the past, give them about 2 hours of training, then drop them in the shit. What could possibly go wrong? Why are we losing this war?
The alien designs are cool but I liked them better when they were in other movies. They basically took the creature from Cloverfield and the alien from Independence Day, threw them in a blender and called it a day.
Also why are all the buildings decimated and on fire when the enemy is ground based? “It looks cool!!” Then again the people are retarded enough to come up with a dumbass plan of drafting people with no experience in the past then it’s safe to say they probably have shit aim and bombed the hell out of their own cities trying to kill the creatures.
They should have called this turd Idiocracy 2. That’s the only explanation for the awful dumb decisions the future humans make.
We’re losing a war so let’s draft people from the past, give them about 2 hours of training, then drop them in the shit. What could possibly go wrong? Why are we losing this war?
The alien designs are cool but I liked them better when they were in other movies. They basically took the creature from Cloverfield and the alien from Independence Day, threw them in a blender and called it a day.
Also why are all the buildings decimated and on fire when the enemy is ground based? “It looks cool!!” Then again the people are retarded enough to come up with a dumbass plan of drafting people with no experience in the past then it’s safe to say they probably have shit aim and bombed the hell out of their own cities trying to kill the creatures.
They should have called this turd Idiocracy 2. That’s the only explanation for the awful dumb decisions the future humans make.
Lukaku's First Touch
Member
I liked it, but so many plotholes... he brought back the alien killing virus and why couldnt they suddenly mass produce it anymore??
Virt McPolygon
Banned
When talking about modern VOD Prime Video and Netflix trash, yeah 6 is an easy pass.
ShadowNate
Member
It was a fun dumb movie. Quite the fan service to Alien, The Thing, The X-Files fans.
Visual effects were way better than I expected, the action was great, the actors' performances ranged from decent to quite good. Yvonne did very good with her role. Pratt was ok, good at times, and kind of numb others. Like he wasn't acting against another actor/stand in. Don't know the details of the shootings but maybe something went on there what with the pandemic and such. Splett was Splett and it surprisingly worked.
Dialogue is plain, nothing great, many times quite stupid and takes you out of the mood. I appreciated the humour for the most part. The story was.... ok I guess. It suffered from lack of ideas and focusing much on just few people, but eh, it was far from boring or insufferable.
Definitely way better than Army of the Dead -- but then again I found that one to be complete crap through and through.
Visual effects were way better than I expected, the action was great, the actors' performances ranged from decent to quite good. Yvonne did very good with her role. Pratt was ok, good at times, and kind of numb others. Like he wasn't acting against another actor/stand in. Don't know the details of the shootings but maybe something went on there what with the pandemic and such. Splett was Splett and it surprisingly worked.
Dialogue is plain, nothing great, many times quite stupid and takes you out of the mood. I appreciated the humour for the most part. The story was.... ok I guess. It suffered from lack of ideas and focusing much on just few people, but eh, it was far from boring or insufferable.
Definitely way better than Army of the Dead -- but then again I found that one to be complete crap through and through.
captainraincoat
Banned
Wonder what redlettermedia will say on this one.......going to be funny
LaughingStock
Member
Dumb premise. Mediocre movie. But at least I watched the whole thing. Unlike army of the dead. Couldn't stand 20 minutes of that shit.
Hari Seldon
Member
Yeah this is a fun but really dumb movie. I'd say the first half is 9/10, almost reaching Aliens levels of both horror and action. But the second half totally falls apart. Even if you ignore all of the plot holes, the action scenes are simply not as good. There is that ultra stupid scene where like 20 people die trying to wrestle something larger than a fucking bear, the oil rig scene where the aliens were dropping like flies when previously they were almost impossible to kill. The finale action scene was alright though.
The plot though is dumb there is no getting around that. The premise is very good, only drafting older people to avoid time traveling paradoxes is smartly done. But why they are doing critical research in an oil rig with 1 part time scientist who also wrestles monsters is really fucking stupid lmao. Yvonne is one fine 38 year old though.
Overall I'd say this is a 6/10 if you are grading this on an all-time scale of action movies. But if you are grading it on action movies in the last 5 years it is 8/10. Definitely worth seeing being that it is on Amazon prime which most people already have.
The plot though is dumb there is no getting around that. The premise is very good, only drafting older people to avoid time traveling paradoxes is smartly done. But why they are doing critical research in an oil rig with 1 part time scientist who also wrestles monsters is really fucking stupid lmao. Yvonne is one fine 38 year old though.
Overall I'd say this is a 6/10 if you are grading this on an all-time scale of action movies. But if you are grading it on action movies in the last 5 years it is 8/10. Definitely worth seeing being that it is on Amazon prime which most people already have.
Lukaku's First Touch
Member
What about the people left in the past, wont they cause paradoxes when they are born in that time?
Why did they want pratt on the chopper but he wasnt allowed to do anything when trying to catch the female? Why not leave him at base?
Why not send back the male killing virus already,that would stop the war too as they clearly outnumber the females.
Why did they want pratt on the chopper but he wasnt allowed to do anything when trying to catch the female? Why not leave him at base?
Why not send back the male killing virus already,that would stop the war too as they clearly outnumber the females.
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CamHostage
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I keep seeing people say the movie was crap but at least the enemy creature design was amazing... it was?
I feel they were just basic monsters. The only special thing was their tentacles that shot spikes, but I could swear I killed things just like that 15 years ago in Resistance? They crawl on walls but only do that sometimes. They can rope bodies a hundred feet in the air but otherwise have no other visible webslinging abilit. They can fire bones like a gun but still prefer a close-up fight against fleshy prey. It can survive several million years under ice after crashing into a volcano but incendiary bombs can wipe dozens of them out. The tentacles acted like extra heads looking around corners but seemed to have no eyes or other sensory abilities. Man, the biology of this critter is all messed up, and not in a way that just makes for a fun movie to turn your brain off for and watch the action play out. If they had a real weakness besides 10,000 rounds to the head until the neck gives way, or if they could be dissected like the Starship Troopers bugs to take out their appendages, or if they hunted in pairs and were more dangerous when working together instead of just being a Zurg Rush, or if the female had any special abilities besides emitting pheromones and having a red belly, if any "videogamey" ideas had been put into the creature concept, at least that would have given tension to the action scenes, making the creatures dangerous but still with a known, slim chance of vulnerability to hurt them.
The CG was good on the White Spikes at least. (Much of the rest of the CG though was real dodgy, I thought I was in for true suffering when I saw the time-vortex open up on the World Cup field with effects that Stargate put to shame, and then they just ran out of money and shot the middle half at like a San Diego military retreat training ground with modern army gear until it was time for the semi-climax at sea.) Even so, the White Spikes would have been 10x better monsters if they had no feet and just moved on their tendrils. I was never afraid of their toothy faces, I was afraid of their gun tails, and they didn't use those things nearly enough.
I feel they were just basic monsters. The only special thing was their tentacles that shot spikes, but I could swear I killed things just like that 15 years ago in Resistance? They crawl on walls but only do that sometimes. They can rope bodies a hundred feet in the air but otherwise have no other visible webslinging abilit. They can fire bones like a gun but still prefer a close-up fight against fleshy prey. It can survive several million years under ice after crashing into a volcano but incendiary bombs can wipe dozens of them out. The tentacles acted like extra heads looking around corners but seemed to have no eyes or other sensory abilities. Man, the biology of this critter is all messed up, and not in a way that just makes for a fun movie to turn your brain off for and watch the action play out. If they had a real weakness besides 10,000 rounds to the head until the neck gives way, or if they could be dissected like the Starship Troopers bugs to take out their appendages, or if they hunted in pairs and were more dangerous when working together instead of just being a Zurg Rush, or if the female had any special abilities besides emitting pheromones and having a red belly, if any "videogamey" ideas had been put into the creature concept, at least that would have given tension to the action scenes, making the creatures dangerous but still with a known, slim chance of vulnerability to hurt them.
The CG was good on the White Spikes at least. (Much of the rest of the CG though was real dodgy, I thought I was in for true suffering when I saw the time-vortex open up on the World Cup field with effects that Stargate put to shame, and then they just ran out of money and shot the middle half at like a San Diego military retreat training ground with modern army gear until it was time for the semi-climax at sea.) Even so, the White Spikes would have been 10x better monsters if they had no feet and just moved on their tendrils. I was never afraid of their toothy faces, I was afraid of their gun tails, and they didn't use those things nearly enough.
"The consensus was that if the public saw what they’d face when they reach the future, it would become virtually impossible to fill that hangar."
xrnzaaas
Member
Yeah it's definitely a weekend flick you won't remember a month from now. I will agree that the monster designs have been good, but not very original. Also it was pretty dumb how they struggled to kill even a single monster early in the film, but didn't have that problem later on. They should've been more successful during the first encounter even if they didn't know yet where to shoot, it was long automatic fire after all.
Werewolf Jones
Member
The father/daughter connection in this movie was earned at least, in Army of the Dead it's forced and annoying as fuck. Also this movie is better than Army of the Dead but that bar was so low to begin with.
ShadowNate
Member
Like I said, I enjoyed the film a lot, and much of the dialogue was a bit rough. But the line that stood out to me as the most "who's writing this" was when after having barely survived an attack from the aliens which seemed to be quite unhindered by bullets, one of the "veterans" reveals the creatures' weak spots.
Come on, that should have been hour 1 in orientation, if not broadcasted even earlier on news.
Come on, that should have been hour 1 in orientation, if not broadcasted even earlier on news.
GymWolf
Member
If i remember well, the military already explained the weak spots during the brief training before the launch.
The aliens being immune to bullets is a combo of bad aim and the fact that abdomen and throat are not exposed when they run with 4 legs, these people are not trained military, at least not all of them, it's not easy to aim for a specific point under stress with those frankly horrifying creatures that chase you because they want to eat you.
I think it's more strange that they don't have granades and granades launchers or flamethrowers as a standard equipment, explosive\flamable weapons seems more useful against those aliens.
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TaylorSwiftFan
Member
They’re usually much worse.
GamingKaiju
Member
Gave it a watch over the weekend. Meh, not bad, does have its moments. If you wanna kill a couple of hrs and like Alien movies then this would fill it.
Odd opinion but Battle: LA still has the best Human v invading Alien war scenario imo.
Odd opinion but Battle: LA still has the best Human v invading Alien war scenario imo.
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Revolutionary
Gold Member
It actually wasn't made for a streaming service like most 'Netflix/Amazon Original' crap. It was a pandemic victim - they were unsure when theater restrictions would be lifted so they just sold it to Amazon for $200 million. Like FireFistAce said, made-for-streaming films are often much worse lol
longdi
Banned
imo edge of tomorrow beats the crap outta this, it was more engaging and better thought out. Alien 1 and 2 were better too, no comparison.
I cant believe this was intended for theaters, seems pretty low budget already. At least they managed to con amazon for $200m.
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Revolutionary
Gold Member
Oh for sure. I said it earlier in the thread that this is a 6/10 at best. But a 6 is still WAY better than something like Army of the Dead, which was a straight-up Aliens ripoff made for Netflix
longdi
Banned
Oh for sure. I said it earlier in the thread that this is a 6/10 at best. But a 6 is still WAY better than something like Army of the Dead, which was a straight-up Aliens ripoff made for Netflix
basically this was all i saw of AOD.
I almost fell for the Apple, Netflix, Amazon streaming hype. I thought their shows will be big budget pieces, from how Tim Apple presented it..
Well except Disney+ mini-series, those were entertaining, it follows the MCU format, which always was known as 'made for TV'
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Stuart360
Member
I know they didnt know where the aliens came from in the future, but instead of going back 30 years and drafting people, why didnt they just go back 30 years, go the UN, tell them everything they know, and give us 28 years to build up our army's, build weaponry, and prepare for the invasion to start?.
This is the problem with time travel in movies, it never really works, there are always plot holes. Its like Skynet sending a terminator back in time to kill John or Sarah Connor, the fact that John is still alive in the future and leading the resistance shows that any attempt to kill him in the past has already failed lol. And you would think a computer in Skynet would realize that.
This is the problem with time travel in movies, it never really works, there are always plot holes. Its like Skynet sending a terminator back in time to kill John or Sarah Connor, the fact that John is still alive in the future and leading the resistance shows that any attempt to kill him in the past has already failed lol. And you would think a computer in Skynet would realize that.
AmuroChan
Member
Because they're two different parallel timelines. Muri at the end of the movie says the point was never to save her present world. They were living on borrowed time and doomed regardless. It was to find a way so that Dan's world could be saved and create a new timeline where humanity survives.
MastaKiiLA
Member
Just finished this. It was definitely enjoyable, but I think they had some stuff that just didn't make sense.
I'm almost certain they'll try to force a sequel. I just don't know what garbage logic they'll try to use. Another alien ship, maybe?
- As someone else pointed out, there was no need to show the drop sequence at the start. Completely gratuitous, and added nothing to the story. For some, it would've ruined the surprise.
- I don't know why Pratt's character (I totally forgot his name already) didn't want to leave his daughter to jump back. I get that it's supposed to be emotional, but it wasn't for me. Jump back, dumbass. Then you avoid her having to die completely.
- Why was Pratt's character the only one who could jump back with the serum? I didn't understand the significance of his character, other than his daughter knew he knew science stuff. Also, maybe prepare a note to send back with him, so that anyone he presented the vial to would know he's not some wacko with PTSD.
- Why leave future Muri with the alien queen all by herself in the lab? Did they stop watching movies in the future? Clearly, you have an armed group for protection, and a shitton of tranq guns ready to subdue the queen if she wakes up. Hell, why did Muri have to take sampled from the queen by hand? They can't use robots or a syringe on a stick? Unnecessary danger to raise the stakes.
- For all that construction of walls around the base, no one suggested putting grinders on them to shred any aliens that tried to climb them? Were they expecting the aliens to be deterred by walls, when we were clearly shown how well they climb walls earlier in the movie?
- No minigun on the helicopter when going to extract the queen? Very underprepared there.
- Not enough tranq darts when extracting the queen as well. I mean, just keep plugging her with drugs until she goes down, instead of hoping that a bunch of dudes can wrangle her with cables.
- Only one jump tower is just kinda stupid. If fetching troops from the past is your only way of surviving, then there should've been a backup jump tower on a cruise ship somewhere in the opposite ocean. Redundancy is key. Skynet understood that.
I'm almost certain they'll try to force a sequel. I just don't know what garbage logic they'll try to use. Another alien ship, maybe?
bitbydeath
Gold Member
Yeah that part really annoyed me, there was no signs at the beginning of the movie that he was going to leave his family at all. The writing was shit all round though, how did they make a time machine but still have shitty military weapons? They couldn’t even be equipped with grenade launchers? Also why inject the aliens when blowing up the ship worked just as well? The poison wasn’t even needed, and I was expecting them to just throw it in and leave, not need to inject each one individually.
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AmuroChan
Member
I thought his motivation was pretty much foreshadowed in the beginning. He told his wife that he was meant to do more with his life than just being a HS teacher. After repeated rejections from other jobs, he most likely got fed up and drank his way into leaving his family behind.
There are probably a bunch of ways they could go with that. Maybe the queen as she was falling to her death released a bunch of eggs into the ice cap that hatch years later. They could also explore why the whitespikes were cargo on the alien ship. Does that mean there are more of these out there in the universe? The ones in this movie landed on earth 1000 years ago. Could there be an evolved, more intelligent form heading the Earth's way?
TonyK
Member
Applying time travel rules and then filling the plot holes with parallel timeline excuses is pure writer laziness or incompetence. Not blaming you, I'm blaming movie writer.
TonyK
Member
I thought the same but after the scene with planes dropping bombs in the city to kill the aliens, I assumed that city destruction is a collateral damage caused by human army.