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Cute Dragon Here

Cute Dragon Here

Member
Hero Engine said:
:/

In all seriousness though, I have a huge phobia of mascot costumes, so much so that I will avoid people wearing them. (at sporting events) I have never actually seen a person wearing one of those furry costumes in real life, but I am pretty sure it would freak me out. It's an ironic phobia, to be sure.
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...Now I wonder if I'll be the same.
 
Cute Dragon Here

Cute Dragon Here

Member
Aeolipile said:
I don't understand why this franchise has seemingly become popular among furries. I am worried that this game is going to create a separate "FNaF fandom" more similar to bronies.

But I can't have much sympathy because, as a straight furry, I basically have a similar sentiment about practically every furry thing I see. Most of the art posted in this thread, the huge majority, seems intended for a gay audience, and I seem to be the only straight guy that still regularly posts here. Other furry forums are even worse; the furry subreddit has basically degenerated into a bunch of thirsty, childish morons who seemingly only ever want to flirt, discuss fetishes or something related directly to themselves, i.e., a lot of the posts are extremely poorly drawn pictures of their fursonas, sometimes just pencil on notebook paper. (While I can't enjoy the art posted in this thread on the same level as you guys can, at least the artists that drew it have talent!) I've tried playing on a furry TF2 server a few times, and it's the same. Most of the sprays were explicit, gay furry porn, and many of the server regulars were seemingly only interested in talking to facilitate erping or something. And that's something I've noticed: a lot of gay furries just seem to assume that if you're a furry, you're gay too and totally fine with and willing to participate in casual flirting and/or relationships. It's obnoxious.
I guess you guys don't notice because you don't have any reason to be bothered by it. And since only a third of furries are straight, apparently, this probably isn't going to change. I understand now why most straight furries just lurk and don't actually try to participate. I also understand why a lot of women lurk in videogames or on the internet; being objectified is really unsettling. I don't want to try to befriend other furries because I'm worried that they aren't interested in me as a person, but as some kind of object.
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I hear ya. Sometimes I just feel like not talking much about it. I think I'm kind of a go-on-go-off person when it comes to things like this, for lack of a better word. I just...well, I like things like this.

Also, I don't have a partner yet. :p
 
K

Kater

Banned
Hero Engine said:
I just won't click the links.
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I had the gifs embedded before, but after seeing your edit where you mentioned that you get scared when you see mascots I edited my post again and just put in the links to the images instead.

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Some art I just found.

L3eAYBg.png


Artist is keovi. (FA)
 
L

Lucario

Member
Aeolipile said:
I don't understand why this franchise has seemingly become popular among furries. I am worried that this game is going to create a separate "FNaF fandom" more similar to bronies.

But I can't have much sympathy because, as a straight furry, I basically have a similar sentiment about practically every furry thing I see. Most of the art posted in this thread, the huge majority, seems intended for a gay audience, and I seem to be the only straight guy that still regularly posts here. Other furry forums are even worse; the furry subreddit has basically degenerated into a bunch of thirsty, childish morons who seemingly only ever want to flirt, discuss fetishes or something related directly to themselves, i.e., a lot of the posts are extremely poorly drawn pictures of their fursonas, sometimes just pencil on notebook paper. (While I can't enjoy the art posted in this thread on the same level as you guys can, at least the artists that drew it have talent!) I've tried playing on a furry TF2 server a few times, and it's the same. Most of the sprays were explicit, gay furry porn, and many of the server regulars were seemingly only interested in talking to facilitate erping or something. And that's something I've noticed: a lot of gay furries just seem to assume that if you're a furry, you're gay too and totally fine with and willing to participate in casual flirting and/or relationships. It's obnoxious.
I guess you guys don't notice because you don't have any reason to be bothered by it. And since only a third of furries are straight, apparently, this probably isn't going to change. I understand now why most straight furries just lurk and don't actually try to participate. I also understand why a lot of women lurk in videogames or on the internet; being objectified is really unsettling. I don't want to try to befriend other furries because I'm worried that they aren't interested in me as a person, but as some kind of object.
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The furry fandom is extremely sexualized, and, as we tend to be an accepting bunch, LGBT sexuality is prevalent. Straight sexuality is there too, but you notice the LGBT sexuality more, because it isn't usually accepted in society.

You're basically coming into a safe space and saying you want the furry fandom to cater more to straight sensibilities by being less gay. Have an ounce of perspective please.

I don't want to try to befriend other furries because I'm worried that they aren't interested in me as a person, but as some kind of object.
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And keep the old-school homophobic rhetoric to yourself.
 
L

Lucario

Member
Aeolipile said:
Uh, no. I don't care that the furry fandom is sexualized; pretty much everything is. I don't have a problem with gay people, either. I have a problem with the immaturity of the fandom. I like how accepting the fandom is, but I think many furries need to have higher standards for behavior.
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And you decided to single out the immaturity of gay people with no ulterior motives whatsoever? Fascinating.


If someone has a weird fetish or something, sure, whatever, you can't do anything about that.
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Furry is a weird fetish. And you're right, you really can't do anything about it.

But if someone is being a creep or an asshole, you shouldn't allow that. I see that a lot in the fandom, which I'm worried is just becoming a way for annoying or even abusive people to justify their behavior.
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This has nothing to do with your above post, which was a whiny, privileged rant about how you were annoyed by gay sexuality. If you want to point out specific instances of furries who are being creepy or obnoxious, go for it, but we both know that's not what you're doing here.

I don't want the furry fandom to cater to straight people either, but even if I did, someone as accepting as you shouldn't have a problem with it, right?
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It already does, and I don't have a problem with it. Literally all society, except for a few specific safe spaces, does far more than cater to straights -- it assumes you're the only option. Again, you really need to work on your perspective.

I only mentioned it to echo the sentiment of disliking something prevalent; I was attempting to be empathetic and foster some discussion.
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No, you were attempting to make others empathetic to your petty complaints. There's an important difference.

I was trying, ironically, to give you guys some perspective, since most of you are gay and probably don't notice the kinds of things a straight person would. I guess you're not really that accepting at all.
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Oh dear, it's not like a privileged fag like me would know anything about not being the majority. It's not like I'm bombarded with images of straight sex daily, assumed to be straight by literally every person I meet, and have my sexuality negated on a daily basis.


Homophobic? Did you even read my post?
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Clearly more thoroughly than you did.
 
K

Kai Dracon

Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
I can understand feeling put off by the behavior of a subculture or fandom that has immature aspects.

Telling gay people they can't understand what it's like to be surrounded by a majority culture that runs counter to their sexuality, and saying they need perspective because they're not accepting enough... is a bit fucked up.
 
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Lucario

Member
No one here is claiming that furry is supposed to be an exclusively gay thing. Stop strawmanning, and stop with the manipulative and empty threats of leaving the fandom because people disagree with you.

But I guess I was wrong. Based on what you've said, furry is a fetish, furry is about sexuality almost exclusively, and if you're straight you don't belong, and that furry is somehow only for gay people. And you know what? Fine. Whatever.
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Seriously, aside from furry being a fetish (which is one of its many definitions), no one said any of this. Stop putting words in other people's mouths.
 
L

Lucario

Member
Aeolipile said:
You yourself said that most furries are gay because they join the furry community to enter a safe space away from normal society, which you claim is for straights. And why?
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I never said any of this. Quote me if you want to reply, I'm really not interested in watching you dismantle a scarecrow.


The furry community is majority gay
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*CITATION NEEDED*

and most people assume that you're gay for being a furry.
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*CITATION NEEDED*


By you're own logic I am not wrong in thinking that it is apparently not intended for straight people.
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No, I'm saying that you have to accept all kinds of sexuality if you join the fandom, and that your idea of gays lacking perspective is ludicrous and insulting. If you're complaining about the prevalence of gay sexuality on a public forum, you're not accepting it. Did I ever say straight people weren't welcome? Does straight sexuality get insulted in the furry community the way gay art does literally everywhere else?

Hell, it's likely that straight people are still the majority in the fandom, just going by image tags.
 
C

Chuck

Still without luck
<_<

Isn't the majority of the furry community gay or lgbt at least?...

Anecdotally speaking, there's no way it's a straight majority.
 
R

Red Arremer

Member
Furry fandom is, for the vast majority, bisexual.
There's a boatload of studies and polls about this (I can't give you any links right now because I'm too lazy to google them up), but the majority is bisexual.
Gay and straight are either around the same level of representation, or straight is more common than gay, depending on the poll.
The thing is, however, that there's a lot more male furries than female ones, and since bisexuality is as openly accepted in this fandom, there'll be a lot more male gay couplings than any other combination.

I often hear this argument about "militant gay furries" that "bash straight furries", but I've yet to see any evidence of that beyond some singular nutjob idiots.
 
O

Odah

Banned
Aeolipile said:
I don't understand why this franchise has seemingly become popular among furries. I am worried that this game is going to create a separate "FNaF fandom" more similar to bronies.

But I can't have much sympathy because, as a straight furry, I basically have a similar sentiment about practically every furry thing I see. Most of the art posted in this thread, the huge majority, seems intended for a gay audience, and I seem to be the only straight guy that still regularly posts here. Other furry forums are even worse; the furry subreddit has basically degenerated into a bunch of thirsty, childish morons who seemingly only ever want to flirt, discuss fetishes or something related directly to themselves, i.e., a lot of the posts are extremely poorly drawn pictures of their fursonas, sometimes just pencil on notebook paper. (While I can't enjoy the art posted in this thread on the same level as you guys can, at least the artists that drew it have talent!) I've tried playing on a furry TF2 server a few times, and it's the same. Most of the sprays were explicit, gay furry porn, and many of the server regulars were seemingly only interested in talking to facilitate erping or something. And that's something I've noticed: a lot of gay furries just seem to assume that if you're a furry, you're gay too and totally fine with and willing to participate in casual flirting and/or relationships. It's obnoxious.
I guess you guys don't notice because you don't have any reason to be bothered by it. And since only a third of furries are straight, apparently, this probably isn't going to change. I understand now why most straight furries just lurk and don't actually try to participate. I also understand why a lot of women lurk in videogames or on the internet; being objectified is really unsettling. I don't want to try to befriend other furries because I'm worried that they aren't interested in me as a person, but as some kind of object.
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I do understand that. There's a reason why only a few people know that I'm a furry. The only real place where I like to post about furry related stuff is here in this thread or on Furbase.de (german furry forum) with the latter being a very friendly place where I never ran into any issues with someone as of yet.
 
R

Red Arremer

Member
Odah said:
I do understand that. There's a reason why only a few people know that I'm a furry. The only real place where I like to post about furry related stuff is here in this thread or on Furbase.de (german furry forum) with the latter being a very friendly place where I never ran into any issues with someone as of yet.
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Jesus you're on Furzbase? :p
I left that forum after I was told by some newbie that I was invading the moderation's privacy by asking why they banned a user.
 
O

Odah

Banned
Red Arremer said:
Jesus you're on Furzbase? :p
I left that forum after I was told by some newbie that I was invading the moderation's privacy by asking why they banned a user.
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Furbase.de yeah ^^

I like that place alot. I tend to stay away from other furry related sites tho >.> (no offense)
 
R

Red Arremer

Member
Odah said:
Furbase.de yeah ^^

I like that place alot. I tend to stay away from other furry related sites tho >.> (no offense)
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I used to post a fuckton in it too. I might even still be in the top 20 or so posters. But I kinda "grew out of it", if you will... I feel like I'm too old for the current generation of furries. :p
 
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Thien

Neo Member
It's probably tooo late but here is some data on the furry community. I don't really want to stir up all those posts again from above so I'll just leave this link here.

http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Furry_Survey

See references for more data.

They're not the latest data but I definitely can say that in my time in the community I have seen a shift especially with the fandom becoming more mainstream. From my observations there are definitely more females now then there have ever been and more straight people as well compared to just a few years ago. But this is all based on observations from local communities as well as me just going to conventions. Not at all internet based. :p But yeah the fandom is changing whether people like it or not.
 
Cute Dragon Here

Cute Dragon Here

Member
Thien said:
It's probably tooo late but here is some data on the furry community. I don't really want to stir up all those posts again from above so I'll just leave this link here.

http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Furry_Survey

See references for more data.

They're not the latest data but I definitely can say that in my time in the community I have seen a shift especially with the fandom becoming more mainstream. From my observations there are definitely more females now then there have ever been and more straight people as well compared to just a few years ago. But this is all based on observations from local communities as well as me just going to conventions. Not at all internet based. :p But yeah the fandom is changing whether people like it or not.
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It's probably best to assume that anything can change. I like some kind of changes. I don't like other kind of changes. But either way I'll have to adapt anyway, so yeah.

Sometimes I wonder if I'm a furry in the first place.
 
H

Hop

That girl in the bunny hat
Welp, now I accidentally need a furry portrait done of one of my startup mentors.

Be careful with Twitter, kids.
 
Cute Dragon Here

Cute Dragon Here

Member
Hop said:
Welp, now I accidentally need a furry portrait done of one of my startup mentors.

Be careful with Twitter, kids.
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Make it everything. Be careful with everything! (Sometimes, one careless mistake is all it takes. Then again, in this instance, I wonder if it's a good thing...)
 
D

Dachande

Member
Aeolipile said:
Homophobic? Did you even read my post?
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No idea if you're still reading this thread or not, but right here:

Aeolipile said:
I don't want to try to befriend other furries because I'm worried that they aren't interested in me as a person, but as some kind of object.
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This is seriously old, old, old-school homophobia in the form of "gay guys are so sexually minded that they primarily view other guys as sex objects than other people". Do you think this of every woman you meet? Do you assume (straight) women automatically have an interest in you as a sex object when they meet you?

Of course you don't, that'd be horrible and sexist of you, but you're assuming it of non-straight guys. Saying you were referring "only to non-straight furries, not other non-straight guys" is irrelevant.

Aeolipile said:
Again, I thought that the furry community was just another group. I didn't know it was some kind of "safe space" that was reserved for only a specific kind of person.
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A "safe space" means that people can express their sexuality or gender identity completely freely without being shamed or told off about it. Obviously, furries can take this to the extreme and start posting porn everywhere in adult furry spaces, but you're expected to accept that whenever you enter one. People wouldn't (or shouldn't) complain about straight porn being posted in the same place unless it's explicitly marked as a gay-only, but if that's the case, you wouldn't be in there at all.

I fucking hate the tumblr-esque "check your privilege" retort, but you seriously need to.
 
Cute Dragon Here

Cute Dragon Here

Member
I think I'll just say that first impressions go a long way towards anything. Messing that up can have severe consequences.

I try to play it safe most of the time when it comes to things like this - things that I'd rather not deal with, to be honest.

Maybe that's the way I am, but I think that is also the thing that I'd like to keep.
 
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