• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

FurryGAF |OT| They should have sent a veterinarian

There are several reasons intersecting here as to why this happened - the sort of thing that Kai tends to post about all the time :)

But seriously, the things I read about that happened there are honestly disgusting to a high degree. To some degree, these are people who either don't get the concept of public/private behavior, or don't care. And to that effect, I think organizers in the future are going to have to crack down hardcore on individuals who perpetuate these actions in the future, because they are the ones who ruin it for everyone else.

There's that, and... I guess there's a need to strongly impress on attendees that despite being furry conventions, they take place in *public* places, and appropriate behavior for public spaces is to be followed, regardless of what they think is valid queer expression. ESPECIALLY anything involving BDSM, diaper stuff, or public sex - just why.
Yeah, and it's why I agree with many within the community itself who think that the niche communities, like SEA-PAH(The Seattle Pups and Handlers Association) or representatives of the AB/DL community (since there are many staffers and con attendees at Rainfurrest who are a part of this) do need to get involved more in the planning of the con itself, so that rules are set in place of what is acceptable behavior we expect by individuals of the furry community in public. People have fetishes, that's fine, but they are best left in the hotel room.
I'll admit that I'm basically just a furry for the porn. And the reason for that is because of shit like this. I think the furry community is getting worse over time, and I don't have much motivation to actually interact with other furries outside of this forum because of it.

I didn't want to say anything, but... well, the big problem I have with the furry community isn't that it's mostly gay, it's the way a lot of furries act, namely, like terrible stereotypes. It is really creepy. I guess when you're straight you really notice it. Actually, no, straight isn't really the right word. I think "mature" is more accurate. I did not get into the furry stuff until I was around 20, so my sexuality was already established; a lot of other furs I see don't really seem gay or bi to me so much as they just want to fuck anything with a pulse (basically, being a teenager) and jump on the "furry = gay" bandwagon because they want to embrace that sexually permissive fetish-friendly furf** stereotype. I hardly even look at furry art anymore because it's so boring; all most artists care about is titillation, and you know what? If the furry thing was firmly established as being just about fetishes, that would be fine. But the weird combination of fetish and community is obnoxious. I don't really know what furry even means.

Here's an example of what I'm talking about. Warning, this is some serious furry drama shit:

I used to know some furries on Steam; they played on the same TF2 servers I did. These two guys were in a "relationship" over the internet, and both were probably like 16 when this started, and they basically made that the focus of every TF2 game they were both in. It was obnoxious, and honestly, kind of creepy. I don't really think those sorts of electronic relationships that are so pervasive in the furry community are healthy, and in fact are kind of unsafe. Here's why: these two split. I don't know when this happened, but one day one of them (the other just disappeared entirely; I don't know what happened) has a girlfriend, namely a transwoman who sounded like a dude in their mid twenties on the mic. Now, this immediately bothers me; the first guy is still underage. So they "date" for months. Online. Until one day the first guy, the kid, just stops playing. I check his profile, and he's gone off to join the army. He apparently just turned 18 a few months ago. Now, checking the chick's profile, she describes herself as his girlfriend. Checking the dude's profile, he describes her as his boyfriend, and himself as gay. It would be funny if it weren't so sad. So in past few weeks the dude has come back from the army and started playing again, and the chick? He's going to marry her. Meanwhile, while he was away, she's obviously been erping with other furs. So basically, here's what the situation looks like to me: a 20-something year old dude -- well, a transwoman, so a chick, I guess? -- groomed an underage teen who obviously has no idea what he really wants into a relationship he clearly isn't ready for, and now they're going to get married apparently.

This was months ago. I have since removed all my non-IRL acquaintances from my friends list, and I don't really know how it turned out. I wanted to say something to this guy, to tell him that he was basically being abused, but I didn't. I didn't want to seem... I don't know, intolerant? But now I'm afraid I should have done something, and this guy is going to end up in some kind of belmonkey-type situation.

What do you guys think? Was it right to ignore them or should I have said something?

Weird porn is one thing but shit like this is genuinely disconcerting.
Yeesh, yeah it's why I don't have much like for some of the younger furries in the fandom. Like, there's some that are plenty mature, but there's a lot of immature ones, who only think with their hormones instead of their head.
 

Kater

Banned
Ersatzkopf, that's a strange story. But is that really just the furry community? Or just young awkward people in general. I met people like that a lot outside of any real community.

I guess he's confused? That'd be my assumption, anyway. Or he just fell for her and tells himself that it's still gay since his partner is MtF (and still a man to him, which is... well, if it works for them??) because he hangs on the term gay because it's the community he likes and wants to be part of.

Young adults can be so complicated sometimes. :p

I recently got this for only eight bucks. Really need to make this into an avatar.

ezimba19081392641700.gif
Lovely pixel art! A really nice deal for just 8 dollars.
 

Kater

Banned
Most people would think you are a big fan of Japanese clothes then, hehe.

Kemono is a word that mostly only a small niche of people use use mixed with the English (or any other) language.
 

CHEEZMO™

Obsidian fan
Was with my friend when she was finishing up a partial and she asked me to model it for some pics.

My only instruction between each pic was "gayer" lmao


Ignore the nipples, it was like 4am and freezing!
 
Final level: on knees, hands behind back, "come hither" look - standard comic cover

Now I want some paw gloves. I'd wear them all winter.
 

J-Fr

Member
it's why I'd rather be called a kemonofan.

I'm a kemonofan too!


I often wonder what's the difference between the western furry and eastern kemono communities?

On one hand I understand English pretty well and western culture is mostly my culture.
Furries strongly identify themselves with their fursona.
My watchlist on FA no matter how many times I curate it, always has some porn or fetishist content I'd rather not see..

On the other hand I do not speak Japanese, but foreign culture is very appealing!
Eastern artists don't really seem to attach themselves with a specific character (even if I found plenty of fursuits when I looked for).
And my watchlist on Pixiv and Twitter is a bit more tame, mostly pinups, heavily suggestive content (I know they are hiding the good stuff in doujins).


In the end the language barrier is filtering all the drama and I'm very biased toward eastern culture.
But without a fursona I identify my self more easily with the kemono fandom even with the language barrier.
I should really register at francefurs.org one day..


Edit: GAF what's your outlook on the subject?
Edit2: Edited the wording.
 

Refyref

Member
Speaking of which, when some cool doujin you really want to read shows up on your pixiv and you know you'll never get to read it as it's only sold at a Japanese con... Frustrating, really.
 

Kater

Banned
The head on the top-right in the stairwell picture is a bit scary. Liking the one with the glasses on best.

Is that you in the last picture, Cheez? Slay~
 
Ah yes I liked that part of the manga ^_^

As an aside, the show is one of my "must watch" for the fall, since most of the ones on my list during the summer have ended season.
 
One-Punch Man is pretty excellent. Lion guy aside, it's an easy recommendation (whether we're talking about the anime, manga, or original webcomic).
 

Boss Doggie

all my loli wolf companions are so moe
yeah I heard it's a good series

but it isn't for me (no not because of that since I'm used to anthro characters getting disemboweled lol), it just doesn't appeal to me :p
 

Kater

Banned
x5cBPDQ.jpg

Some new art from Stigmata. Right in time for Hockey season.

(source)

Honestly I'm a little disappointed that you guys seem to be blaming the teenager and not the older person who should have known better than to manipulate someone like that. I really didn't expect to see victim blaming here. :p
Wasn't my intention, but I guess it can be seen that way? I was only trying to point out that it has nothing really to do with the furry community, it's normal human drama that can be seen everywere. It's shitty, alright.

I prefer Western art because I enjoy some of the fetish stuff and because the Japanese kemono artists don't draw hot furry chicks, just more loli catgirl bullshit.
I mean seriously is it like literally impossible now for a Japanese artist to draw a female character any other way? Ugh.
Ignorance can be a curse too. There's all kinds of art coming from kemono artists. Including normally proportioned male and female and androgynous anthro characters.

One-Punch Man is pretty excellent. Lion guy aside, it's an easy recommendation (whether we're talking about the anime, manga, or original webcomic).
His origin story in chapter 3(?) is so weird. Haven't read anything further than that yet tho because of other series and mangas that I've yet to catch up to.
 

Boss Doggie

all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Eh that shit is small time, like I said Dragon Quest manga had many anthros disemboweled quite graphically. It's so weird seeing a doujin of one of them though, with the excuse that "they were resurrected".

"The only insanity I can take is the most insane. No time for any others"

well yes :p
 
Top Bottom