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[Shangounchained]

There have been a dozen spectacular technologies promising to revolutionise graphics and only to be left unused and discarded for who knows why... Here are some of them and if anybody has more or knows why this techs arent popular please feel free to comment.

1. Motion interpolation.
Back on the xbox 360 days star wars force unleashed 2 achieved the unthinkable they where able to magically upscale 30fps to 60fps on the force unleashed 2 and perhaps this could also mean how nextgen consoles will achieve 120fps.

LucasArts' 60FPS Force Unleashed II tech demo

At the recent SIGGRAPH 2010, LucasArts coder Dmitry Andreev showed off a quite remarkable tech demo based on work he ca…

www.eurogamer.net

Real-time Frame Rate Up-conversion for Video Games (SIGGRAPH 2010 Slides)

A novel technique for video games that combines the best of both high-quality rendering at 30 frames per second and the natural motion of objects refreshing at 60 frames per second with very minimal memory and performance overhead.

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A. 30 fps frame.

B.motion blur

C. Final 60 fps frame

2. Virtual texturing/ tiled resources/ megatextures.
At the start of this gen microsoft boasted about dx12 and tiled resources as a revolutionary tech that was going to drastically improve visuals

But besides carmack's implementation in rage and id tech 4 it hasn' t really pushed boundaries as people expected and its been removed from the new id tech 7 engine.

3. Mega meshes.

Mega Meshes - Modeling, Rendering and Lighting a World Made of 100 Billion Polygons

www.gdcvault.com

So this are some of them.
The big question is where this technologies really ground breaking! or simply procedural tricks?

Or do they work and its the developers who are lazy to apply them?

 

[SidViscous]

Often technological innovation doesn't translate to tangible benefits for the developers or consumer.

The mega texture thing is neat, especially with fast ssd loading it makes sense to stream more and store less in ram at any one time. But the old method of tiling/reusing smaller textures around the game world is what almost every tool has been built around, and It's very difficult to modify stuff when using mega textures.

 

[sunnysideup]

Voxels.

Its a tech that would greatly enhance gaming. But the industry choose polygons. So it is not supported on any hardware.

 

[Virex]

Complete games at launch

 

[molasar]

Voxels.

Its a tech that would greatly enhance gaming. But the industry choose polygons. So it is not supported on any hardware.

Resogun, No Man's Sky, Matterfall, Nex Machina, Ion Fury use this tech for example.

 

[Shangounchained]

Often technological innovation doesn't translate to tangible benefits for the developers or consumer.

The mega texture thing is neat, especially with fast ssd loading it makes sense to stream more and store less in ram at any one time. But the old method of tiling/reusing smaller textures around the game world is what almost every tool has been built around, and It's very difficult to modify stuff when using mega textures.

What do u mean by modify?

 

[Shangounchained]

Resogun, No Man's Sky, Matterfall, Nex Machina, Ion Fury use this tech for example.

Voxels is another tech but im more impressed with its implementation on atomontage, and unlimited detail rendering, and currently a better version of it aka point clouds is being implemented in dreams ps4 and claybook game

 

[Shangounchained]

Complete games at launch

Star wars the force unleashed 2 run at 30fps upscaled to 60 fps on xbox 360 smoothly but somehow nobody has done this again and i dont know why?

 

[GymWolf]

Stealth kinect topic?

 

[Shangounchained]

Stealth kinect topic?

This was never going to be a thing lets leace it at that.

 

[GymWolf]

This was never going to be a thing lets leace it at that.

But...but i want to feel powerfull like the guy in the gif

 

[Shangounchained]

But...but i want to feel powerfull like the guy in the gif

Only way i see this a thing is on a theme park like disney world

 

[GymWolf]

Only way i see this a thing is on a theme park like disney world

Nah, you just need an oculus or vive to get a far better experience than kinect.

 

[Shangounchained]

Nah, you just need an oculus or vive to get a far better experience than kinect.

Movement is the problem you cant move walk and run freely so the intersctivity is capped.

 

[GymWolf]

Movement is the problem you cant move walk and run freely so the intersctivity is capped.

Never heard of oculus quest (or some wireless adaptor for vive)??
Next batch of wireless vr stuff is gonna be game changer but even now a quest is already 100x times better than kinect.

 

[Shangounchained]

Never heard of oculus quest (or some wireless adaptor for vive)??
Next batch of wireless vr stuff is gonna be game changer but even now a quest is already 100x times better than kinect.

Movement! Its one thing interacting and seeing in vr and snother thing moving on a small space like a room.

 

[kashif333]

Voxels.

Its a tech that would greatly enhance gaming. But the industry choose polygons. So it is not supported on any hardware.

Nice Game

 

[GymWolf]

Movement! Its one thing interacting and seeing in vr and snother thing moving on a small space like a room.

Can you be more clear? You can move all you want with an oculus quest and the area covered by the sensors are pretty big.

 

[Shangounchained]

Y

Can you be more clear? You can move all you want with an oculus quest and the area covered by the sensors are pretty big.

Your room.

 

[Alexios]

Y

Your room.

You move yourself within your play space and with the analog stick (or teleportation or zero g pushing/pulling on the environment, or by swimming motions, or whatever the given game has been designed around) past that for humanoid-esque characters or whatever other method if operating some sort of vehicle, for example pulling virtual levers and other controls or using your physical controller inputs for thrust or whatever or even utilizing other controllers as in non-VR games like racing wheels or joysticks. There are no limits. Did you think all VR games are on rails or limited to small rooms or something? The same old 3D game design principles apply to VR just the same with a whole new added layer of interactivity & presence, to varying degrees as chosen by devs, which is why modern VR as a platform has matured so fast and already offers wonderful experiences.



There's also location based VR that does away with artificial locomotion and a few experimental home games that do the same by using impossible geometry style levels but that's a tiny minority and still requires decent space for the most immersing fun where the average game works just as well standing/sitting (thankfully).

 

[intbal]

Metaballs!

 

[sunnysideup]

what game is that?

i remember that exotica or whatever the fuck it was called. But that was medieval i think.

 

[intbal]

what game is that?

i remember that exotica or whatever the fuck it was called. But that was medieval i think.

Urban Decay.
It was the follow up project from Andrew Spencer Studios after the Ecstatica series, but it was cancelled.

 

[DonF]

Euphoria physics on games. I remember Rockstar talking about it, an Indiana Jones demo with it and some star wars game too.

It all ended up being ragdoll 2.0 .

 

[GymWolf]

Y

Your room.

If i remember well i saw people using relatively giant outdoor space to review quest and even if it is only your giant room is still faaaaaar better than kinect where you have to stay in front of the camera.

 

[Azelover]

Holographic data storage

 

[GymWolf]

Euphoria physics on games. I remember Rockstar talking about it, an Indiana Jones demo with it and some star wars game too.

It all ended up being ragdoll 2.0 .

Still far superior to anything than don't use euphoria tho.
Also i expect a giant leap in his use with proper cpu next gen for gta6.

 

[sunnysideup]

Urban Decay.
It was the follow up project from Andrew Spencer Studios after the Ecstatica series, but it was cancelled.

not exotica ecstatica.

really cool looking game. I have only seen it in pcgamer screenshots before.

 

[DonF]

Still far superior to anything than don't use euphoria tho.
Also i expect a giant leap in his use with proper cpu next gen for gta6.

the thing is that I remember that it was going to be like, AI mixed with physics, but in practice its just ragdolls with a little bit of reactions. Its not what they touted it would be.

 

[spandexmonkey]

Man this reminds me of the Everquest Next tech demo:

 

[GymWolf]

the thing is that I remember that it was going to be like, AI mixed with physics, but in practice its just ragdolls with a little bit of reactions. Its not what they touted it would be.

I think weak cpu are one of the reason why they can't use it at his full potential, but i understand what you say.
The first force unleashed game has a hint of that with stormtroopers trying to survive grabbing other pg or objects when you lift them in the air with force powers.

The future of animation is euphoria+motion matching.

Tlou2 use the second one but hit reaction and ragdoll are not gonna be better than mp3 or rdr2.