G/A/F? Father kills dog to recover son's finger from stomach

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Boss Doggie said:
I always thought it would have some form of wolf temperament. Still, it does need maintenance and the family treated it poorly, and had it suffered for their stupidity.

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According to the wiki, the only 'wolf like temperament' they need to be trained out of is being shy, digging dens, and tearing stuff up. And that's only really high content wolf wolfdogs. Who knows how far removed this guy was.

If by cage they mean crate and the dog was only in the crate for sleeping for whatever, and they were otherwise wonderful owners, the guy still failed at teaching his son not to torment the dog. Dogs don't bite without provocation. Sometimes that provocation is a bad owner.
 
Fiction said:
Likely as much as a german shepard would or a husky would. High energy working dogs, shockingly, take a lot of work. People who don't want to deal with that shouldn't be allowed to own them.
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Introducing wolf into the blood makes all the difference, really. Malamutes are actually incredibly gentle and were bred to look after children. They do get restless and wreck stuff like other high energy dogs, but not this kind of craziness.
 
Yeah, I think he made the right choice. It's unfortunate that his dog was trained poorly and/or ill-tempered, but the same thing would have happened to the dog if it had been someone else's kid.
 
what did the kid do to cause the dog to bite off his finger?

also, it's a half wolf mix? yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah........................
 
Fiction said:
Dude was just a shitty owner. Yeah, I don't blame him for cutting the finger out, but it would never have happened in the first place if they'd raised the dog right.
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Or taught the kid that you don't stick your fucking fingers into an animal's cage/den. Seems like common sense, but nope. I feel sorrier for the dog.
 
Wasn't even a choice. But yeah, he was proactive, and the dog had to die anyway.

I see wolves and had friends with half wolves, but they seem like way too much trouble just for the fact of having a cool looking animal.
 
Nevasleep said:
What if the dog escaped? I'm glad he's dead, won't bite me now.
(glad might be a little strong).
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Which then points back to the family for being terrible owners in the first place.

It's kinda sad that the only proponent it seems for animal welfare is PETA. It's disgusting.
 
joelseph said:
Why not have it rescued by an owner that can properly care for and train an animal?
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half-wolves can be really temperamental animals, and I'm sure lots of people would say "sure I can properly care for this dog", but I'd have my doubts about their confidence. If they had zero youngsters, and lots of space, including an enclosed yard... But my friend's wolf dog was an escape artist, did not get along with any other animal (she was a rescuer), and was loud at night. She wouldn't even let me get close to the cage really. And if it was that much trouble, I didn't want to.
 
akira28 said:
half-wolves can be really temperamental animals, and I'm sure lots of people would say "sure I can properly care for this dog", but I'd have my doubts about their confidence. If they had zero youngsters, and lots of space, including an enclosed yard... But my friend's wolf dog was an escape artist, did not get along with any other animal (she was a rescuer), and was loud at night. She wouldn't even let me get close to the cage really. And if it was that much trouble, I didn't want to.
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Someplace like this? http://www.wrr-inc.org/
 
Yeah someone like that guy. Him specifically. I don't think people should breed or sell the animals either.
Fury Sense said:
For the PINKY?!

Why would the dog bite off the finger...
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Anxious and temperamental animal suddenly has a small loud human running up and petting it. It turns around to give a warning nip, ends up taking a finger. Except a nip would probably just take a little flesh. This could have been more like a 'don't touch me' bite.
 
Nevasleep said:
What if the dog escaped? I'm glad he's dead, won't bite me now.
(glad might be a little strong).
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That would be one crafty dog, deserving of respect.

Fury Sense said:
For the PINKY?!

Why would the dog bite off the finger...
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If I had to guess, it would be because the 11 year old stuck his fingers through the cage, completely oblivious to the dog's body posture. Dog feels cornered or that his den is being overtaken by a (potentially lesser) pack member, feels threatened and lashes out as animals will do. Results not typical.
 
I subscribe to the theory that there are no bad dogs, only bad owners. As it appears that wolfdogs are more dog than wolf and don't show atypical aggression as compared to other dogs their size, I am firmly on the side of 'bad owner' here.
 
I don't think the man is necessarily a terrible pet owner or father because his kid happened to stick his finger in the dog crate. Kids get into shit and shit happens.
 
Computer said:
G/A/F? means 'Did this crazy story take place in Germany, Australia (or sometimes Austria) or Florida? Guess before you enter the thread'.
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It actually stems from an old Adam Corolla bit called "Germany or Florida". I think GAF added the Australia part.
 
Devolution said:
They're also supposed to remain on leashes around the general public.
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Yep. It's the same kind of thing like pit bulls that were trained to fight: When it's removed from the situation and kills another dog, the pit bull isn't to blame, it's the people that trained it to fight.
 
Devolution said:
They're also supposed to remain on leashes around the general public.
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Austin has a leash law, but it seems no one but me adheres to it when I'm taking my dog for a walk. There's been more than one occasion where leashless dogs come up to us with an aggressive posture and I end up arguing with the owners to show a little bit of fucking intelligence.
 
Fiction said:
Yep. It's the same kind of thing like pit bulls that were trained to fight: When it's removed from the situation and kills another dog, the pit bull isn't to blame, it's the people that trained it to fight.
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I'm for putting down the owner rather than the dog in those cases.
 
wolf mix is a baaad idea. Not saying this is the sole, or partial cause, but man, I've been around enough half-breeds to know to stay the fuck away. They get crazy eyes.
 
I kinda laughed when I read that they couldn't even reattach the finger... I mean come on. Fucking idiot of a man imo.
 
Newline said:
I kinda laughed when I read that they couldn't even reattach the finger... I mean come on. Fucking idiot of a man imo.
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They could have reattached the bone and did that bio-matrix trick with the pig bladder, I bet you. Regrow the muscle and everything. They just didn't want to go that far to save the kid's pinky.
 
Been around dogs my whole life, they can all 'snap' at any point, you just have to see the signs.

A caged wolf hybrid is not a good idea. The one thing dogs like this need is space. A large open yard.

Enclosing him in a cage for who knows how long goes against their evolutionary habits. When in nature is a wolf ever going to be inside a cage?

And then you have a kid come and stick his fingers inside. We don't know what the kid did. Did he tease him? Was he making loud noises and scaring/startling the dog?

All animals can do this. When I was 7 I stuck my fingers inside a cage at a zoo where they had monkeys. One monkey came and bit on my finger and ripped the nail clean off. I had to get stitches, quite a few shots etc.

We also don't know how they feed the dog? Do they feed him through the cage? Did he react and think it was a treat or something?
 
That sucks, but the animal would have been put down anyway after biting the kid's finger off.

Hope it didn't suffer too much.

Really sucks for the kid though. He's paying for his father's stupid mistake.

Parch said:
Yup. Bad idea. If PETA has a problem with this story, it's shouldn't be about the killing. It should be about stupid people keeping a wolf cross.
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Who gives a flying fuck what PETA thinks?
 
joelseph said:
Dogs and wolves are den animals. They often prefer small enclosed areas like crates. The more you know.
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Yes, they like to lie down at night in a den because it offers them protection. Tell me what will happen if an animal or person ventures into that den? They don't like to be forced to sit in a metal cage all day. The analogy doesn't work. A dog like this needs a huge backyard and routine walking for the a long distance, otherwise they get frustrated, agitated and bored. If you force them into a crate or cage they are not happy. Even worse if you have children bothering them sticking fingers inside. If the dog liked it, he wouldn't have bitten the kids fingers.

The more you know.
 
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