Last time around I felt good about Blarg because he had someone corroborating his story. Retro probably is Blarg, but that doesn't mean he's telling us the whole truth. His action has a convenient piece of plausible deniability, wherein it just doesn't work. Better to get rid of him now than wonder about him in the coming days.
Other than those? Your claim itself. Neutral Survivor is nothing new but a neutral survivor with an ability? And that ability is apparently nothing more then to create parameters against a certain player that they have to follow or... What? Never explained what would happen if they didn't haiku. And your ability might not even work if you could have used it?
And I thought Scrafty's claim had some weird holes but come on.
Is Royal_Flush still your number 2 choice rats?
Top town
Ouro
Sawneeks
Swamped
Top Scum
Splinter
Rats
Retro
I think I have a fanTop town
Ouro
Sawneeks
Swamped
Top Scum
Splinter
Rats
Retro
Setting aside my imminent death for a moment, I would love to hear why you suspect Rats.
I'd second this request (in case Squidyj wants it from someone who isn't on the immediate chopping block). Beyond that, why is he one of your top 3 choices? And for that matter why is RetroMG a top 3 as well? Last I saw there's no strong reason to believe he's scum unless you don't believe his roleclaim at all. I'd say it's maybe likely but he doesn't reach my top 3 scum since that revelation.
if I had to make my top 3 (because I haven't typed it out and knowing these games it'll come back to haunt me):
Town:
Ourobolus
roytheone
rats off to ya
Scum:
*Splinter
Royal_flush
GreatCharleston (I was more unsure than the others on this third position)
Believing retro leaves us with the question of what happened last night? it's simpler to suggest that he is simply scum and he hasn't made any case at all for being town, he claims neutral.
Believing retro leaves us with the question of what happened last night? it's simpler to suggest that he is simply scum and he hasn't made any case at all for being town, he claims neutral.
Anyways I was suspicious of rats on day 1 because of how he was interacting with the fight I was having with sorian, which is to say he didn't do a lot to further other narratives. He also more or less picked my side that day which is something he's flipped on and I didn't like how he interacted with ouro's claim, he didn't want to challenge it directly but it seemed like he still wanted to get flush lynched over retro. if retro flips neutral it could have been nothing, and I might have to reevaluate tomorrow, but if retro is scum he's definitely someone I feel should be considered closely.
The problem I have with that theory is that would only block the kill if either all mafia has to vote, or he's the only one left. I don't believe we'd start a 16 person game with 2 mafia members, even if they're both powerful. While I'm still concerned with who might have been targeted, and how they lived, the whole Retro getting roleblocked into not killing doesn't strike me as particularly likely.
As for you, you're probably one of the people I could swap in for GC's place on my list. People in that spot aren't cleared by any means, they're just not my highest priority right now.
the way it's been in all of the other games is that one mafia member sends in the kill, if you block that one you block the kill. It's weird that you don't know this.
Ouro, do you get confirmation that you successfully blocked an action? (as opposed to blocking someone with no action)
I asked Traube in Cthulu what would happen if people just failed to Haiku. He said it hadn't occurred to him that people wouldn't. Hopefully Launch has a backup plan. I haven't asked.
My ability is RNG. It might be haiku, or it might be rhymes, or it might be nothing at all. RNG seems to be a theme to a bunch of the roles. Don't ask me, I didn't come up with it. (shrug)
I get no confirmation whatsoever. Retro confirmed that he had an action and that it didn't work, though.
Are you serious? I could have claimed normal and just slipped out of this?
Goddammit.
lol
Well, we still would've had the no-kill.
While I actually believe Retro's role claim, I really don't see any reason to keep him around.
What's our majority number again, is it 8?
While I actually believe Retro's role claim, I really don't see any reason to keep him around.
What's our majority number again, is it 8?
If we're on Kark math, yes. I have five votes left.
I would appreciate it if we could let the day run out. Ending early hurts the town, especially this early in the game.
If we're on Kark math, yes. I have five votes left.
I would appreciate it if we could let the day run out. Ending early hurts the town, especially this early in the game.
I would also appreciate it because I'll be busy most of the day lol
Which still had nothing to do with me. If you had blocked someone else, you would have seen the exact same message at the start of the day.
I just want to know what kind of candy is in retro. I wanna bust the pinata open, is it jolly ranchers? or is it candy corn?
Packets of smile dip.
So who/what are you then?
So your partner ordered the kill then?
So who/what are you then?
Quick question before I drop my reads - what are the odds of there being more than one of a power role?
Matt also brought up a good point about the likelihood of both Retro's ability and a mafia kill being blocked by two different role block type skills. I have reason to believe only Ouro roleblocked last night. Assuming there's not two people with that exact ability, that is.
Philosophical question:
Can it still be considered an #unnecessarygambit if the gambit itself could be arguably he described as "necessary"?