CrimsonFist
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Kawl voted Sophia before Zipped was close to being lynched, and Cabot and Squidy are both dead with confirmed alignments.
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Gafia 2.5: The Bachelor Party |Mafia OT| One Last Override
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StanleyPalmtree
Banned
# trust the gut
so when you guys say the banana might have been a redirect, what exactly do you mean by that? iv never seen it in a game before and dont want to go making to many assumptions.
my initial impression of what went down was the banana causing the lynch to pass Sophia and go to whoever was second in votes at the time.
Huh.... Stanley, did you know about the banana beforehand? You were the only person as far as I can tell to suggest something other than a role block or poison on Day 2. Likewise, you suggested it wasn't something "objectively threatening", but weirder... and sure enough what happened at the end of Day 2 was pretty weird.
StanleyPalmtree
Banned
nope, i was just reading into the flavor, the particulars of 'fruity and strange' just really made me think it wasnt any kind of poison, i mean who the hell would ever describe a poison as 'fruity'?
and honestly i was expecting something even more unorthodox from it, like the bizarre haiku and rhyme effects from night vale, but then i guess this game is turning out more normal than i expected.
a shame to, for a bachelor party i was expecting more
St
Huh, I didn't think the next Day started until Monday. Good think I happened to check I guess.
We're working with a very limited information set, but I agree there should be some good stuff at the end of the day.
I am of course standing by my vanilla claim. Sophia, Squidy, myself, Droplet, are all supposed vanilla. We have had a tanner and a two shot tracker. That's 6 of the 14 roles, so there must be some other stuff out there that people aren't willing to share yet. Not asking people to claim, just saying that there's still plenty of space for crazy roles.
I assume we bought ourselves at least a day or so thanks to the Zipped lynch?
We're working with a very limited information set, but I agree there should be some good stuff at the end of the day.
I am of course standing by my vanilla claim. Sophia, Squidy, myself, Droplet, are all supposed vanilla. We have had a tanner and a two shot tracker. That's 6 of the 14 roles, so there must be some other stuff out there that people aren't willing to share yet. Not asking people to claim, just saying that there's still plenty of space for crazy roles.
I assume we bought ourselves at least a day or so thanks to the Zipped lynch?
flatearthpandas
Member
Goddamn. Nothing has gone on.
Gorlak, you jumped I'm with a pretyped. Anything else going on?
Gorlak, you jumped I'm with a pretyped. Anything else going on?
Look at the immediate reactions:
How would in the event of a tie me changing to zipped and you unvoting resolve the tie?
You didn't feel good about squidyj, fair point. Why did you throw your vote to squidyj? To make a point?
While I still have some trouble to see a (scum) motivation here, your behaviour was weird. Would you please try to explain it?
A lot of speculation is floating around about how zipped got lynched, if no one comes forward we can't say for sure if it was a redirect, an override or vote steal? Sophia having a power is also possible (though she denies it).
I agree that a vote steal is unlikely, but the same goes for an override, doesn't it? I have not seen a hidden one in a game yet.
What happened there yesterday? Flame was in the lead, when he claimed ordinary. That was enough for me (and others) to change to Sophia. So Kawl and me went from Flame to Sophia. Squidyj went from Flame to Sophia to unvote. Zipped also voted last minute on Sophia, but I can't say that makes me feel better about her. But if both were scum wouldn't they go after Flame?
Why did both Zipped and Flame have their votes on Kawl beforehand?
I agree that a vote steal is unlikely, but the same goes for an override, doesn't it? I have not seen a hidden one in a game yet.
What happened there yesterday? Flame was in the lead, when he claimed ordinary. That was enough for me (and others) to change to Sophia. So Kawl and me went from Flame to Sophia. Squidyj went from Flame to Sophia to unvote. Zipped also voted last minute on Sophia, but I can't say that makes me feel better about her. But if both were scum wouldn't they go after Flame?
Why did both Zipped and Flame have their votes on Kawl beforehand?
Something related to this that we need to take into account.
Flame doesn't provide a reason immediately for voting Kawl, but then Zipped (who we know is scum now) rules out Flame with rather flimsy justifications? It's very similar to what I noted in Day 2 from Zipped, where his reasons for jumping on the Droplet train were very flimsy too. This also isn't the first time Flame has thrown out votes without really explaining them. He never explained his vote on squidyj at the start of Day 2, despite Crimson calling him out on it, and we know what Squidy's alignment is now... :\
Some other Day 1 observations regarding Zipped/Cabot/Flame/Stanley
Firstly, Zipped seems to have excluded Flame in his inactive peoples comment, and bizarrely added Kawl. Only when Cabot (tanner, but effectively town in this scenario) calls him out does he add in Flame to that list. Secondly, Zipped seems to be suggesting that Squidy's viewpoint is questionable here instead of Flame_AC's view. Everyone else, including Squidy, was questioning Flame's behavior not to question Cabot. Seems rather significant in light that Squdiy is town now. Next, we see Zipped throw shade on Stanley as he unvotes.
I think Flame_AC is scum. His votes have been weird, frequently unexplained. His actions in light of cabot's flip make little sense. Zipped, a confirmed scum, seem to be ignoring him on Day 1, and implicated him as town on Day 2.
I also am leaning slightly town on Stanley. Firstly, he was on a scum both days, which would be a really weird bussing attempt if they were both scum. Secondly, I can't fathom why Zipped would directly draw attention to his scummate's flaws like that.
Firstly, Zipped seems to have excluded Flame in his inactive peoples comment, and bizarrely added Kawl. Only when Cabot (tanner, but effectively town in this scenario) calls him out does he add in Flame to that list. Secondly, Zipped seems to be suggesting that Squidy's viewpoint is questionable here instead of Flame_AC's view. Everyone else, including Squidy, was questioning Flame's behavior not to question Cabot. Seems rather significant in light that Squdiy is town now. Next, we see Zipped throw shade on Stanley as he unvotes.
I think Flame_AC is scum. His votes have been weird, frequently unexplained. His actions in light of cabot's flip make little sense. Zipped, a confirmed scum, seem to be ignoring him on Day 1, and implicated him as town on Day 2.
I also am leaning slightly town on Stanley. Firstly, he was on a scum both days, which would be a really weird bussing attempt if they were both scum. Secondly, I can't fathom why Zipped would directly draw attention to his scummate's flaws like that.
flatearthpandas
Member
If you changed your vote, I would have left mine. if the tie remained, i would unvote to break it. I switched to squid to have a vote out rather than just unvote once it seemed sophia was ultimately going to be the target.
flatearthpandas
Member
Did anyone get any items? Another poker chip or fruit?
CrimsonFist
Member
Don't think Stanley or Kawl have checked in yet.
Interesting that nobody has claimed responsibility for what happened yesterday. If it was a town one shot role, I'd have expected them to. So either it wasn't a one shot, which sounds a little overpowered, or it's not a town role. Which would be odd, since Zipped died as a result of it.
Interesting that nobody has claimed responsibility for what happened yesterday. If it was a town one shot role, I'd have expected them to. So either it wasn't a one shot, which sounds a little overpowered, or it's not a town role. Which would be odd, since Zipped died as a result of it.
Royal_Flush
Member
Not me.
Stanley has two posts this phase.
The second paragraph is actually a good thought. If it was an override, it surely wasn't Scum and for Town it had to be 1-shot, balance wise. If it was Sophia with a Scum role, well, it was Sophia with a Scum role. If it was the banana was some kind of "You can't get lynched" thing, I can't even wrap my head around how to balance this... On the other hand, if it was some 1-shot thing, it may not be good play for the owner to reveal that since he would then basically be Vanilla Town.
So you aren't even trying to justify it?
CrimsonFist
Member
It clears up what happened and gives us someone who would be almost confirmed town. Much more useful than a vanilla claim.
Can I ask you who you think is scum then?
I also have a feeling that FEP might be another member of the scum team, but I don't feel as strongly about it as I do Flame. Gorlak, you've voted FEP already. What do you think?
As Cabot noted, prematurely excusing scummy behaviour. We know Cabot was not scum now, so he was not simply throwing shade on a scum buddy here.
Day 1 top scum includes two confirmed townies, with vauge "not strong reads."Votes for Kawl here. As I noted back in Day 1, usually when someone is in your top scum, you have more to go on than simply gut reads.
People who expressed disagreement on a Droplet lynch include nukediggs and myself.
When questioned on it, he backpeddels on what he meant and suggests that there might not even be scum on the lynch train. We know that's false now as Zipped was on it.
Thinks Royal would be the NK because he was one of the more active posters. Was apparently surprised that people found nuke super town. Later backpedels on it after Royal himself calls it out.
Votes squidyj, a confirmed townie.
Here's the big one. His scum list here has a townie in Squidy, and Cabot who was a tanner. Note the comparisons between Flame, Zipped, and Squid here. Doesn't think Flame is suspcious, and has them about equal with Zipped. Zipped is also mysterously not in his list because he thinks it's one or the other with Squidy, a townie. Also throws random shade on the Droplet lynch here.
Infamously causes a tie here, despite saying that Zipped was not in his scum list earlier. For some reason he doesn't feel good about squidy deciding the vote, but mentions nothing of Zipped deciding the vote, despite the fact that Zipped's vote was the final vote on me, and should have sealed my fate.
As Cabot noted, prematurely excusing scummy behaviour. We know Cabot was not scum now, so he was not simply throwing shade on a scum buddy here.
Day 1 top scum includes two confirmed townies, with vauge "not strong reads."Votes for Kawl here. As I noted back in Day 1, usually when someone is in your top scum, you have more to go on than simply gut reads.
People who expressed disagreement on a Droplet lynch include nukediggs and myself.
When questioned on it, he backpeddels on what he meant and suggests that there might not even be scum on the lynch train. We know that's false now as Zipped was on it.
Thinks Royal would be the NK because he was one of the more active posters. Was apparently surprised that people found nuke super town. Later backpedels on it after Royal himself calls it out.
Votes squidyj, a confirmed townie.
Here's the big one. His scum list here has a townie in Squidy, and Cabot who was a tanner. Note the comparisons between Flame, Zipped, and Squid here. Doesn't think Flame is suspcious, and has them about equal with Zipped. Zipped is also mysterously not in his list because he thinks it's one or the other with Squidy, a townie. Also throws random shade on the Droplet lynch here.
Infamously causes a tie here, despite saying that Zipped was not in his scum list earlier. For some reason he doesn't feel good about squidy deciding the vote, but mentions nothing of Zipped deciding the vote, despite the fact that Zipped's vote was the final vote on me, and should have sealed my fate.
sorry about today, mother's day and all
so...I started to grasp a little bit on the couple days but after that weird voting shenanigans...I'm completely confused as to who feels/have more of a scum vibe...like literally everyone feels null read for me atm...I may have to start poking people for my own questions which I haven't created for them yet...
Although looking at it again...its a bit suspicious that sophia dodged a huge ass bullet from town but at the same time it could be a setup to frame said person...
so...I started to grasp a little bit on the couple days but after that weird voting shenanigans...I'm completely confused as to who feels/have more of a scum vibe...like literally everyone feels null read for me atm...I may have to start poking people for my own questions which I haven't created for them yet...
Although looking at it again...its a bit suspicious that sophia dodged a huge ass bullet from town but at the same time it could be a setup to frame said person...
flatearthpandas
Member
Causing the tie was a push to lynch Zipped. I didn't have much time but when there was a three way tie, I read over Flame, Zipped, and Sophia's posts and decided Zipped was most suitable for a lynch. With him confirmed scum, not sure what you think my scum play was there.
If Sophia was scum, why would I try and save her by bussing another scum? If she's town, why would I try and save her by bussing a teammate?
Now, I feel really good about crimson after last night. Either an opportunistic as hell bus or he's town. Think town is more likely.
I spent a lot of time looking at Gorlak last night but didn't come up with much. Kind of weird exchange with kawl. I feel okay about Gorlak as well despite him almost actually tying us up.
Sophia, I'm not sure about now that we know squid was town. I already mentioned I found zipped's comments odd when he voted her. She was happy to eat a lynch, rather than have a tie, urging the town to look closely at me in the context of her flip, which I found weird. If she was scum that would look pretty bad for me, rushing to "save" her (not really) but in the context of the actual flip (my target, a scum) i don't think i look that bad. I do think that if she was town, a tie should have been preferable to a ml if she was on the block. I think she knew she wouldn't be lynched. Otherwise, why so eager to allow an ml? If she also knew zipped would eat it, i would tend to think she was town. At any rate, think it's time for Sophia to fess up.
I feel pretty good about Stanley, sitting on scum both nights, even if not with great explanation.
Kawl I'm iffy on but i found most of his posts yesterday as being useful. His votes look... eh.
Star dropped out. Was nervous and inactive before. Seen nerves cause her to fumble her own role descriptions even as town, but I could see this time being scum. Want to hear plenty from gryvan today.
Royal still super inactive. Content and votes seem okay.
Going to read up on Flame again today. He seems to slip through the cracks for me, but votes aren't screaming scum.
I think it's unlikely all three scum were on droplet, but very possible two were. Here's my scenario: zipped is on her. Scum buddy kawl puts a vote on zipped to spread things out and set up the tie allowing the vote to stay in the realms of zipped, droplet, or squid, two of whom were town. Royal breaks toward droplet and scum buddy star seals the deal.
Question is was there a scum on the squid vote? Flame spoke in squid's defense and followed his vote onto droplet. Squid thought there several. His vote had droplet, crimson, gorlak, and very briefly kawl (safe to say he wasn't in this suspicion). I would be inclined to think it would be gorlak before crimson. Could have been none.
If Sophia was scum, why would I try and save her by bussing another scum? If she's town, why would I try and save her by bussing a teammate?
Now, I feel really good about crimson after last night. Either an opportunistic as hell bus or he's town. Think town is more likely.
I spent a lot of time looking at Gorlak last night but didn't come up with much. Kind of weird exchange with kawl. I feel okay about Gorlak as well despite him almost actually tying us up.
Sophia, I'm not sure about now that we know squid was town. I already mentioned I found zipped's comments odd when he voted her. She was happy to eat a lynch, rather than have a tie, urging the town to look closely at me in the context of her flip, which I found weird. If she was scum that would look pretty bad for me, rushing to "save" her (not really) but in the context of the actual flip (my target, a scum) i don't think i look that bad. I do think that if she was town, a tie should have been preferable to a ml if she was on the block. I think she knew she wouldn't be lynched. Otherwise, why so eager to allow an ml? If she also knew zipped would eat it, i would tend to think she was town. At any rate, think it's time for Sophia to fess up.
I feel pretty good about Stanley, sitting on scum both nights, even if not with great explanation.
Kawl I'm iffy on but i found most of his posts yesterday as being useful. His votes look... eh.
Star dropped out. Was nervous and inactive before. Seen nerves cause her to fumble her own role descriptions even as town, but I could see this time being scum. Want to hear plenty from gryvan today.
Royal still super inactive. Content and votes seem okay.
Going to read up on Flame again today. He seems to slip through the cracks for me, but votes aren't screaming scum.
I think it's unlikely all three scum were on droplet, but very possible two were. Here's my scenario: zipped is on her. Scum buddy kawl puts a vote on zipped to spread things out and set up the tie allowing the vote to stay in the realms of zipped, droplet, or squid, two of whom were town. Royal breaks toward droplet and scum buddy star seals the deal.
Question is was there a scum on the squid vote? Flame spoke in squid's defense and followed his vote onto droplet. Squid thought there several. His vote had droplet, crimson, gorlak, and very briefly kawl (safe to say he wasn't in this suspicion). I would be inclined to think it would be gorlak before crimson. Could have been none.
Hmm... you have a fairly good point here. From a scum standpoint, you really had zero reason to get involved. I think that's decent enough evidence to remove you from the list of scum suspects unless anyone has any objections?
Crimson huh...? I've been gut reading him town, but I haven't looked at him at all for today.
You'll find there's nothing to fess up about. Despite my shitty performance on Day 2, I've been truthful entirely about my role and my actions, and I'll argue that point even if I'm on the chopping block again.
Zipped's comment is bothering me tho. I can think of a few theories for it, including the possibility that he might have wanted to claim tracker on this day phase and didn't expect to die. Alternatively, perhaps because nobody has spoken up or claimed responsibility for the Day 2 endgame nonsense, maybe it was a scum gone wrong? As I told you before, I don't really know.
flatearthpandas
Member
Roles:
Droplet: vanilla town
Squidyj: vanilla town
Nukedeggs: vanilla town
Zippedpinhead: scum two-shot tracker
Cabot: neutral tanner
??: redirect, override, possible fruit vendor
??: Unconfirmed fruit vendor (poker chip)
Flame: vanilla claim
Sophia: vanilla claim
Royal: unclaimed
Fep: unclaimed
Gryvan: unclaimed
Gorlak: unclaimed
Kawl: unclaimed
Stanley: unclaimed
Crimson: unclaimed
Almost 1/4 of the game is confirmed vanilla now. We know there is at least one pretty powerful town pr, though it could be several different things. Scum role revealed is not that powerful. If we believe both Flame and Sophia, over 1/3 of the game is vanilla. What do we think about that? It seems likely to me that most pr's there might be are fairly weak.
Droplet: vanilla town
Squidyj: vanilla town
Nukedeggs: vanilla town
Zippedpinhead: scum two-shot tracker
Cabot: neutral tanner
??: redirect, override, possible fruit vendor
??: Unconfirmed fruit vendor (poker chip)
Flame: vanilla claim
Sophia: vanilla claim
Royal: unclaimed
Fep: unclaimed
Gryvan: unclaimed
Gorlak: unclaimed
Kawl: unclaimed
Stanley: unclaimed
Crimson: unclaimed
Almost 1/4 of the game is confirmed vanilla now. We know there is at least one pretty powerful town pr, though it could be several different things. Scum role revealed is not that powerful. If we believe both Flame and Sophia, over 1/3 of the game is vanilla. What do we think about that? It seems likely to me that most pr's there might be are fairly weak.
Yeah... Royal's very likely town. His votes were in the right place, and he all the right arguments. In light of later events, nothing really stuck out.
I'm looking over Kawl now. The first thing that immediately pops out is that he had a lot of counter-arguments for Flame back in Day 1, after Flame claimed he wasn't going to ask cabot questions openly. There's enough of it that it doesn't seem like scum openly bantering in the topic. I need to read over the rest of Kawl's posts, but it's something to take in consideration depending on who we decide to lynch today.
I'm looking over Kawl now. The first thing that immediately pops out is that he had a lot of counter-arguments for Flame back in Day 1, after Flame claimed he wasn't going to ask cabot questions openly. There's enough of it that it doesn't seem like scum openly bantering in the topic. I need to read over the rest of Kawl's posts, but it's something to take in consideration depending on who we decide to lynch today.
I don't disagree with this vote, but I'd like to hear more on it. I'm guessing it has something to do with Star's previous performance + with his lack of commentary so far after 24 hours?
Gorlak, I'm not sure I followed your reasoning here. Could you explain it a bit more for me?
As far as gryvan, it comes down to the last post of the day by star:
Where shortly after Crimson rubutted that by saying two people did so in Pw one as town one as scum and she never responded which seems like a scum member dropping a vote with what they think is a pretty good reason and running away when challenged.
And also gryvans post saying that you surviving a lynch is suspicious but that it could also be an attempted frame job. I don't like the hedging of bets/lack of a hard stance.
I will say your case for Flame is interesting. A lot of it seems to depend on tying zipped to him via missing from reads day 1, the gut read day denial post day 2, and semi sheeping the vote on me. To me this reads more like zipped was trying to develop Flame as a patsy in the case he went down. If you can set up a town person to get lynched following your death that's a pretty solid swing for scum. I may have missed it but do you have posts tying flame to zipped more so than the other way around?
You sleeky bastard. Don't you dare blame this shit on me now! wtf... you intentionally create a tie, forcing me to change to my lynch target #2 and blame me for what could have been? You unvoted in the same moment I wanted to change my vote. You just happened to be a second faster. I definitely am not solely responsible for what happened and "could've been" back there.
That tie and confusion I put mostly on Feps shoulders rest assure Gorlak. I did have a question up above if you would be so kind as to answer id greatly appreciate it.
I also think if you are a town sided role that gave out the banana and know that it is indeed the reason Sophia is still with us, consider long and hard revealing that information. Unless you are multi shot. I would probably reveal in your situation, clears up a lot of confusion about yesterday's end. Of course as always that your own call though.
Alternatively, could it be a 3rd party aiming to reaim say 2 lynches via banana? Although numerically I don't think that lines up as it would be 2 neutrals in a 14 person game, meaning either 8v3v1v1 or 9v2v1v1. First feels too scum sided, seconded feels a bit too town sided.
Flame dropped some hints at having a PR. That looks like a good approach to attract the scum nk. I'd say that is a reasonable way to play if you are ordinary as well, instead of the "insecure", passive Sophia way of "you have to do the work" we saw as well. The preemptive claim was worrying me, Flame's claim was simply more believable to me.
Already on it. I'm going through the thread atm.
No worries, just wanted to make sure you saw it.
By extension of your logic, isn't not hinting at a role a semi soft claim if you expect a skilled player?
You're saying everyone who keeps his role close to his chest and says nothing would be soft claiming a PR? Errhh, I'm sure I didn't say that.
Wait, there is a double negative, can you rephrase your question?
Nah you pretty much got it. I wasn't truly being serious but more having fun with carrying the logic out to the extreme.
If soft claiming and trying to draw a night kill is optimal play for a ordinary town, then optimal play for a pr would be to keep quiet and let those gambity ordinaries take the heat.
But like I said, mostly in jest. Your answer clears up the confusion I had, thanks.
Sorry about the long delay, Kawl. I had to go help set up an HDTV for my stepdad, which turned into ALSO setting up a Windows XP machine to the internet.
It's hard to get a read on gryvan, because Star didn't provide much information. I'm not sure what to make of that vote of Star's either, seeing as I'm unaware of the specific scenario in PW. As a counterpoint to gryvan, and repeating what I told Crimson earlier, I unvoted fully with the intent to prevent a tie. Coincidentally, I'm still here, still arguing my point, still being fairly active in response to conversations, and still just as confused as to what happened as everyone seems is or appears to be.
One thing that doesn't help Grayvan's favor (IMO) is Star's "Squidy or Droplet" nonsense form Day 1. She had no real justification for either of those votes, jumped on the bandwagon for Droplet, and now both of them are confirmed townies... and also dead.
I don't appear to have anything in my notes about it. Looking things over, you may be right, as I do not see anything that links them the other way around. One thing that stands out is this commentary from Royal from Day 1 when I first brought up the possibility of a Flame lynch.
And indeed, he has a point. Drawing attention to the fact that he's asking questions like he did on Day 1 is not particularly good scum play, especially so early on in a game like this where it's bound to be brought back up. Likewise, if gryvan/star is scum, then I seriously doubt there were three scum on the lynch train. What do you think about that, Kawl/Royal?
Unvote
It's hard to get a read on gryvan, because Star didn't provide much information. I'm not sure what to make of that vote of Star's either, seeing as I'm unaware of the specific scenario in PW. As a counterpoint to gryvan, and repeating what I told Crimson earlier, I unvoted fully with the intent to prevent a tie. Coincidentally, I'm still here, still arguing my point, still being fairly active in response to conversations, and still just as confused as to what happened as everyone seems is or appears to be.
One thing that doesn't help Grayvan's favor (IMO) is Star's "Squidy or Droplet" nonsense form Day 1. She had no real justification for either of those votes, jumped on the bandwagon for Droplet, and now both of them are confirmed townies... and also dead.
I don't appear to have anything in my notes about it. Looking things over, you may be right, as I do not see anything that links them the other way around. One thing that stands out is this commentary from Royal from Day 1 when I first brought up the possibility of a Flame lynch.
And indeed, he has a point. Drawing attention to the fact that he's asking questions like he did on Day 1 is not particularly good scum play, especially so early on in a game like this where it's bound to be brought back up. Likewise, if gryvan/star is scum, then I seriously doubt there were three scum on the lynch train. What do you think about that, Kawl/Royal?
Unvote
Not much has changed since Flame's claim struck me as ringing true. I think if he's scum that was a pretty massive risk. I don't see it, especially when one of the other front runners was scum.
I've got my vote on gryvan and it's where I believe there is likely scum.
Any particular reason you are asking me and royal in particular, and not say FEP or Gorlak who I think have been as active in producing good thoughts and opinions?
I've got my vote on gryvan and it's where I believe there is likely scum.
Any particular reason you are asking me and royal in particular, and not say FEP or Gorlak who I think have been as active in producing good thoughts and opinions?
flatearthpandas
Member
I created the situation in general but we all bear responsibility for our actions in the chaos. Not trying to throw any shade at you though, it was hectic and worked out extremely well in the end and, for what it's worth, I feel pretty good about you.
I think maybe you're keeping quiet about something though. You've lost that gorlak aggression we talked so much about yesterday.
In other news, where the hell is Stanley? Gryvan never came back either. Where is everyone?
We're at about 7:2 town to scum. ML today is 5:2 day 4. ML tomorrow is 3:2 lylo Day 5. So we have some wiggle room but can't really afford to just clear inactives.
That said, Star has the worst voting history imo and being inactive certainly doesn't help.
Vote: Gryvan
Gorlak, still want to hear about your new quietness most of all right now. Anyone else notice this?
flatearthpandas
Member
Of course I realize after posting Gorlak has a bunch of posts. Want to clarify it is the zeroing in on small things. Actually, fuck it. Maybe I'm just crazy. Just woke up a bit ago.
No particular reason. Was responding to you, and quoted Royal, that's all.
On mobile right now, I'll be back to my PC in 45~ minutes.
So I just noticed zipped was scum lol...
alright so I was looking through zipped's quotes and all and a couple of the quotes have been caught my attention
these 2 posts were constantly pushing for kawl like really really hard...
but at the same time, in one of his posts, he mentions flame saying hes town
He also tries to deflect away from what cabot posted which was:
which zipped responded with this
he redirects it to people who didn't roleclaim yet...
So I have a couple theories that I wanna say:
1) Using some of zipped's quotes, I will assume that
Kawl - Town (trying to get him lynched)
Flame - Scum
Sophia - Town (still feels a little bit scummish due to some excellent posts but i need look up quotes)
2) Or that it could be
Kawl - Scum (trying to gambit on an argument between 2 scums to make them both look town)
Flame - Scum (can't find anything that makes him feel town...like I can't believe said claim either)
Sophia - Town
Oh and I personally love vanilla ice cream~
Thats what I can gather from zipped's quotes...I'll probably look through others later
alright so I was looking through zipped's quotes and all and a couple of the quotes have been caught my attention
these 2 posts were constantly pushing for kawl like really really hard...
but at the same time, in one of his posts, he mentions flame saying hes town
He also tries to deflect away from what cabot posted which was:
which zipped responded with this
he redirects it to people who didn't roleclaim yet...
So I have a couple theories that I wanna say:
1) Using some of zipped's quotes, I will assume that
Kawl - Town (trying to get him lynched)
Flame - Scum
Sophia - Town (still feels a little bit scummish due to some excellent posts but i need look up quotes)
2) Or that it could be
Kawl - Scum (trying to gambit on an argument between 2 scums to make them both look town)
Flame - Scum (can't find anything that makes him feel town...like I can't believe said claim either)
Sophia - Town
Oh and I personally love vanilla ice cream~
Thats what I can gather from zipped's quotes...I'll probably look through others later