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Gafia 3 [Mafia] | Welcome to Lynchwood Acres
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So people left are:
1. *Splinter [m] - Claimed JOAT
2. Burbeting [m] - Confirmed Celebrity
4. franconp [m] - Claimed Ordinary
10. Kawl_USC [m] - Soft claim?
13. TheWorthyEdge [m] - Claimed Ordinary
14. CCS [m] - Claimed Ordinary
22. OceanicAir [m] -> replaced by flatearthpandas [m]
24. gryvan [m] -> Gorlak [m]
Not sure if fep or gorlak ever said anything, so I'm leaving them as a blank.
1. *Splinter [m] - Claimed JOAT
2. Burbeting [m] - Confirmed Celebrity
4. franconp [m] - Claimed Ordinary
10. Kawl_USC [m] - Soft claim?
13. TheWorthyEdge [m] - Claimed Ordinary
14. CCS [m] - Claimed Ordinary
22. OceanicAir [m] -> replaced by flatearthpandas [m]
24. gryvan [m] -> Gorlak [m]
Not sure if fep or gorlak ever said anything, so I'm leaving them as a blank.
I guess they could have worried about a doctor being on me, but... why not Splinter or Kawl, then? Since Kawl seemed to soft claim yesterday.
With Burb cleared, and if I trust Faddy and Splinter, we're into an interesting situation where assuming 3 scum left, there's only five players to choose from:
Gorlak, FEP, TWE, Kawl, Fran.
Of them, none are likely town in my head, but beyond scum reading TWE none are standing out strongly as scum either.
Gorlak, FEP, TWE, Kawl, Fran.
Of them, none are likely town in my head, but beyond scum reading TWE none are standing out strongly as scum either.
Forgot Crab was tracker. Scratch that line of thinking then.
I never claimed to have a good memory. Brain like a sieve.
Okay, read that wrong. Please CCS reread wtf happened in this game.
Yesterday there were three people that claimed or hinted at power roles. One got lynched.
I'll finish my reread on Dragonz, but I think the antagonizing between you two was not constructed. In other words I think you are town and that's why this is so fucking frustrating.
Yesterday there were three people that claimed or hinted at power roles. One got lynched.
I'll finish my reread on Dragonz, but I think the antagonizing between you two was not constructed. In other words I think you are town and that's why this is so fucking frustrating.
Stanley is the more conservative kill target in my opinion. Scum poisoner essentially cleared him since he was the first target, although wamd having 3 shots and only ever getting 2 poison claims is weird ??
I'm OceanicAir, a bodyguard.
Although not a very good one with these NK choices.
I'm OceanicAir, a bodyguard.
Although not a very good one with these NK choices.
flatearthpandas
Member
Yes I claimed...
When people can't follow the basic elements of the game it's really hard to credit their reads. That is double for CCS but for fuck's sake. At least I know your heart's in the right place.
Anyway, I'm thinking TWE Gorlak and CCS for our last three and If like to see Gorlak lynched first to be honest. He's the least likely to break imo so the stronger end game scum.
Gorlak spent his time yesterday fishing for other candidates besides dragonz even after she buried herself. Basically concern posts. "Sure dragonz looks bad, but think about this or person..."
Now he's trying to clear people which is fine, we want to do that.... but then we all want to do that right now, scum included.
Scum have been having a laugh this game. They've had to do basically nothing since we've all been building town v town lynches. So scum fucking about and voting each other like dragonz and ccs seems completely in line. In fact it was gorlak himself who accused dragonz a few days ago saying she likes to be cheeky as scum. Maybe he was being a bit cheeky himself.
No one should be cleared beyond burb at this point.
Has anyone else in the game mentioned being roleblocked besides Splinter? Secondary verification of it would be nice and put me more at ease with him.
FEP has been truly impressive in how little he's put in which becomes more and more worrisome. I am still feeling scumTWE after dodging a couple of lynches for not great reasons and the over abundance of "sloppy" errors. CCS I find a chore to read properly between his misremembered information and general posting style (sorry chum). I get bad vibes looking at the convo between Fran and wamd yesterday, stand by him as scum. TWE and Fran are my two stronger reads. Toss up between CCS and FEP for the final scum.
Has anyone else in the game mentioned being roleblocked besides Splinter? Secondary verification of it would be nice and put me more at ease with him.
FEP has been truly impressive in how little he's put in which becomes more and more worrisome. I am still feeling scumTWE after dodging a couple of lynches for not great reasons and the over abundance of "sloppy" errors. CCS I find a chore to read properly between his misremembered information and general posting style (sorry chum). I get bad vibes looking at the convo between Fran and wamd yesterday, stand by him as scum. TWE and Fran are my two stronger reads. Toss up between CCS and FEP for the final scum.
flatearthpandas
Member
What is the flavor for bodyguard?
What was this all about? I'd be including burbs post here if he wasn't celeb cleared...
I just don't get seeing end of day yesterday and having a bad feeling.
Too many times seeing the Kevin Costner/Whitney Houston masterpiece has left me convinced that my life's calling is to protect one of my fellow residents from an attempt on their life.
8 players left, I would imagine three scum.
Burb is cleared, and I know I'm not scum. That means the remaining six are split half and half.
I feel like one of Splinter and Kawl is probably town at least, just based on PR count. Wouldn't assume both though.
Out of Gorlak, FEP, TWE, and Fran, I feel like Gorlak has flown under my radar a lot. Not in terms of not being active, just I still haven't formed any real opinion. Makes me slightly jumpy.
Having been scum reading FEP a bit, I'm now slightly leaning the other way. Only very slightly though. I could see a TWE/Fran/Gorlak team.
Burb is cleared, and I know I'm not scum. That means the remaining six are split half and half.
I feel like one of Splinter and Kawl is probably town at least, just based on PR count. Wouldn't assume both though.
Out of Gorlak, FEP, TWE, and Fran, I feel like Gorlak has flown under my radar a lot. Not in terms of not being active, just I still haven't formed any real opinion. Makes me slightly jumpy.
Having been scum reading FEP a bit, I'm now slightly leaning the other way. Only very slightly though. I could see a TWE/Fran/Gorlak team.
This is a huge overreaction for someone missing an ordinary claim of all things. Trying to sheep Gorlak's reaction to CCS?
Why TWE is scum - An Essay
First 2 days TWE activity was really low, he didn't participated much. Voted for Bronx day one on a joke, jumped on Crab wagon day 2. He decided to make this post:
Here is when I started scum reading him:
He tries really hard to answer the prod.
I make a scum list with him on it, he did a weak reply so I try to prod him:
Again he tries really hard to avoid discussion:
Here is a constant of how TWE defended himself throught the game:
He just downplay his importance and says we would get nothing out of it.
He makes a weird read about WAMD:
He is asked why he thinks WAMD is his top town and he uses 2 weak posts from WAMD as an excuse:
Here he messed up calling Splinter as a watcher
Here he tries to get a roleclaim out of me:
Then he gives a weak excuse for it.
New list. Slight townreading WAMD:
There is a contradiction there that I point out:
He makes a really weird post where he is all over the place:
He start saying he is fine sacrificing himself:
He ends up voting Sorian.
As soon as day 5 starts he votes Burb:
A couple of hours later switchs for Swamped:
A couple of more hours and says he doesn't want to vote for Burb because a weak excuse:
Ten hours later he trust Swamped:
He admits he is all over the place and tries to place the blame on me and votes:
I call the vote for what it is:
So I'm being defensive?:
He ask for some proofs:
I give him. He never responds this post:
Kyan called him out for his faulty logic:
He never responds again.
Stanley also called him out for his logic:
His defence:
Here he adds WAMD as scum but the accusation is really weak:
He ends voting for Swamped, who he was feeling good about:
Day 6 starts and he votes for me without having a case still and knowing that scum can turbo easily:
Splinter, I and Burb ask that noone votes to avoid scum turboing a townie. He never unvotes. He is asked to vote last WAMD to avoid a lynch bomb. He never moves his vote.
Here is what he thought about WAMD lynch yesterday:
So I really think TWE is scum and we should lynch him today.
First 2 days TWE activity was really low, he didn't participated much. Voted for Bronx day one on a joke, jumped on Crab wagon day 2. He decided to make this post:
Here is when I started scum reading him:
He tries really hard to answer the prod.
I make a scum list with him on it, he did a weak reply so I try to prod him:
Again he tries really hard to avoid discussion:
Here is a constant of how TWE defended himself throught the game:
He just downplay his importance and says we would get nothing out of it.
He makes a weird read about WAMD:
He is asked why he thinks WAMD is his top town and he uses 2 weak posts from WAMD as an excuse:
Here he messed up calling Splinter as a watcher
Here he tries to get a roleclaim out of me:
Then he gives a weak excuse for it.
New list. Slight townreading WAMD:
There is a contradiction there that I point out:
He makes a really weird post where he is all over the place:
He start saying he is fine sacrificing himself:
He ends up voting Sorian.
As soon as day 5 starts he votes Burb:
A couple of hours later switchs for Swamped:
A couple of more hours and says he doesn't want to vote for Burb because a weak excuse:
Ten hours later he trust Swamped:
He admits he is all over the place and tries to place the blame on me and votes:
I call the vote for what it is:
So I'm being defensive?:
He ask for some proofs:
I give him. He never responds this post:
Kyan called him out for his faulty logic:
He never responds again.
Stanley also called him out for his logic:
His defence:
Here he adds WAMD as scum but the accusation is really weak:
He ends voting for Swamped, who he was feeling good about:
Day 6 starts and he votes for me without having a case still and knowing that scum can turbo easily:
Splinter, I and Burb ask that noone votes to avoid scum turboing a townie. He never unvotes. He is asked to vote last WAMD to avoid a lynch bomb. He never moves his vote.
Here is what he thought about WAMD lynch yesterday:
So I really think TWE is scum and we should lynch him today.
I have a feeling WAMD revealed the roleblocker targets. If you just remove Faddy from her list you get:
Splinter
Bronx
Bronx
Splinter
Splinter
which matches the blocks I received, at least, and Bronx for N2/3 would have been the obvious choice.
Also... I pretty much agree with the rest of this post, although I'd put FEP above CCS now.
Kyan was neutral.
Yes?
So I don't see your point. I had already voted for TWE day 3 as I scumreaded him since day 2. I just made a big post about it.
You don't need to remind me. You've been banging that drum all game.
From memory, Worthy was an absolute sure-lynch until the last hour or so. I begged for a swing to swamped and eventually got it. I've been regretting that since it seems I saved scum, BUT now I'm thinking it wasn't such a bad thing...
Scum would be much less willing to move off their partner right before he's lynched since they know the votes will come back to them. Town however has no such fear, and is more worried about the unanimous sentiment to lynch Worthy. So town gets cold feet and jumps to swamped, and scum stick on their teammate to play it safe, and no doubt have a good laugh when town flips a vote against itself.
Well WHO'S LAUGHING NOW?
And the neutral doesn't move because he literally couldn't care less.
I mostly brought it up as a coincidence to be honest when I noticed that my top scum reads were exactly the people on Worthy, but maybe it isn't a coincidence after all.
I already said this like five times I think. I'm not around during the last half hour before deadline since Ouro changed the hour. I leave work at that hour and have an hour commute. You can check everyday if you want to make sure.
Ok I'll amend my argument:
"Most of the scum team don't move their vote because blah blah blah, except for Fran who can't move his vote because he isn't available."
Better?
For a less snarky answer:
Are you saying that you would have moved your vote to swamped if you were here at the end of day 5?
Really? Don't think so. I would have push harder to get TWE lynched. He tried to pull an OMGUS at me. I'm pretty sure he is scum.
Ok. So then what is the point you are trying to make with this defense?
You are trying to make me scummy because I didn't moved a vote from someone who I has been saying is scum since day 2.
Your argument could work if Swamped flipped scum but she flipped town. I find scummy the people who moved their votes from TWE to Swamped as they could have been protecting a scummate from a possible lynch. But you are avoiding this logic because it doesn't make YOU look good. You were the one who leaded a bagon from a most likely scum to a townie.
Right, there are multiple theories as to how town/scum would approach this (all assuming Worthy is scum):
1 - scum stay put to play safe, town get cold feet and jump ship
2 - town mostly ignores Splinter, scum jump ship for the extremely slim chance of saving a teammate who will probably be lynched in the next phase anyway
I'm saying I think number 1 is more likely, and looking at the names involved emboldens that view.
You're saying you think scum greatly exposed themselves for the sake of saving Worthy for another day, and now scum-Splinter is capping it off by bringing this exact vote back into discussion after it's been ignored for a full phase already.
Ok.
flatearthpandas
Member
Not sure what you mean by sheep.
And if it was an overreaction it certainly wasn't a huge one. We're in day 7 probable lylo. Reading the game and keeping track of the most basic information should be a given.
Anyway, here are the votes in case anyone doesn't have them on hand. http://abload.de/image.php?img=screenshot_2017-03-24z6u2s.png[/IMG
Yes, i mark myself as town on my charts. Sorry but I'm not going to change it. Votes with no post number are ones when ouro didn't include them. They should always be final votes.
Two issues with my reads from today I just realized. D1 and D3.
Scum have had the leeway to fuck about a bit but it seems unlikely they didn't have someone on the squid vote, especially since they did have someone on crab. So that leaves us splinter and kawl on that vote.
D3 we have worthy, ccs, and gorlak all piled on verelios. Seems very unlikely the whole team would pile on one person if they aren't turboing the game finish. Especially in a town v town showdown. Pointless to stack scum. This is actually why I town read Gorlak before. He sits onto verelios at the end of the day. Pointless for scum except to draw attention to themselves. Scumreading gorlak yesterday was mostly because I felt he was looking for reasons to lynch someone besides dragonz. Lynch bomb, etc. Might have just been heightened sensitivity because I was annoyed from something he said when he was asking about my reads. Anywho, splinter was also on that stack which is nice because he is my strongest town read. So between him and kawl d1 on squid, I would lean toward kawl being the scum.
Already said i don't believe the dragonz ccs voting was authentic but I'll need to read through again.
The bolded didn't happened.
I think the scum team is TWE, CCS, Kawl and FEP. I think you are trying to impose a faulty logic to justify your reads.
flatearthpandas
Member
Goddammit, fucking tag.
Sorry to quote the same post three times, but I also just realised that this:
Doesn't in any way answer the post it is responding to:
Ok? And?