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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK SPOILERS* |OT| Season 3 - Sundays on HBO [Read the OP]

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Ferrio

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Yeah only in this episode after years (decades?) of following him. There should have been buildup for something that large and it all seemed premature.

Doesn't mean all were following him that long. They're thieves, murderers and rapists.. what kinda loyalty do you expect when shit hits the fan?
 

MrHicks

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kinda stupid that the slave trader didn't see this coming and WHY it never happened before

1)the unsullied follow all orders from their owner
2) new owner orders to kill previous ones

really? lol

how the fuck did that trader not have a "former owners cannot be attacked" failsafe or some shit
 

exYle

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What was the point of moving Theon in an out of entrapment ?

Who is that dude! And whats his motive?

The motive is unclear right now, but you'll notice that the trickster learned that Bran and Rickon were not in fact killed, which will likely play a part eventually in the show.

EDIT: Oh gosh, I'm in the wrong thread. Hopefully I worded everything to be as non-spoilery as possible. Sorry!
 

ZaCH3000

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kinda stupid that the slave trader didn't see this coming and WHY it never happened before

1)the unsullied follow all orders from their owner
2) new owner orders to kill previous ones

really? lol

how the fuck did that trader not have a "former owners cannot be attacked" failsafe or some shit

Because only dragons and the Bank of Braavos can buy an entire army of unsullied. A warship buys you two handful unsullied. Dany bought 8000.
 
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Madness

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kinda stupid that the slave trader didn't see this coming and WHY it never happened before

1)the unsullied follow all orders from their owner
2) new owner orders to kill previous ones

really? lol

how the fuck did that trader not have a "former owners cannot be attacked" failsafe or some shit

She bought all. They'd never sell enough for them to kill them all unless you have the one thing worth more than anything, a freaking dragon. Think about it. I doubt anyone has ever been able to afford more than 2000 at a time. And that Slaver would have enough to counteract any attack. Sheer stupidity on his part though.
 
I'm going to answer Heavy's question in the thread. There are no story/event spoilers here but I'll use spoiler tags. He basically asked if the show will feature a significant time jump (his example: 100 years), something he wouldn't like because he loves the current arcs on the show. My answer:

No, there won't be any significant time jump. In terms of the television series, thus far about two years have passed since the end of GoT.

Interestingly the author did plan on jumping 5 years after ASOS (which is the book this season and next season cover), to age up the young characters; in the books everyone is younger, Dany is 13 at the start of GoT...which would not work on television to put it lightly. But he couldn't get it to work, and it led to him really struggling to write the next two books which is why they took so long to come out. He eventually scrapped the 5 year jump plan and had to re-write everything.
 

Smiley90

Stop shitting on my team. Start shitting on my finger.
Oh man, what an amazing episode.

Theon twist? Did not see that coming at all, I feel so bad for him, esp after the awesom Ned Stark line.

Night Watch twist? Did not see that coming at all. I could've seen the "host" getting killed, but the Commander, too? I say goddamnit.

Danaerys taking the dragons and the army was pretty predictable, but the whole presentation with the Valyrian language and everything... Very, very well made.

Great episode.
 
Well, that just happened.

The Brotherhood without Banners have converted to the Lord of Light. Oh my.

Jamie Lannister gets another taste of reality, and a slap in the face from Brienne. It's probably not the first time he's heard that speech, but I bet it's much more relevant to him now.

And then we see that Dany could understand the entire time. She freed the slaves, who now fight for her because they want to. She leaves with an army and three dragons. Clearly, she's Jesus.

It's getting real.
 

Violet_0

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the slaver was incredibly stupid
don't know what to make of the Theon storyline
pretty sure the Tyrells bought the people that cheered for Joffrey
 

Timbuktu

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kinda stupid that the slave trader didn't see this coming and WHY it never happened before

1)the unsullied follow all orders from their owner
2) new owner orders to kill previous ones

really? lol

how the fuck did that trader not have a "former owners cannot be attacked" failsafe or some shit

It's just necessary for the mechanics or the plot, we aren't meant to think much of the slave traders, though you would think they would have to cunning and ruthless to get to where they are. The slavers and slaves are really just plot devices and to make Dany look good.

I mean, the Targs have been out of power for less than a generation, a few decades at most . You would think people would still recognise one from miles away and know their background and be wary of them.
 
Great episode.


trololol at slavemaster. How did you not see that one coming, guy...

Whats the deal with Theon? Was that whole escape just a test or something? lolol
 

Madness

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Relax, the thread is 'no book spoilers' allowed, not, 'no book readers' allowed

Here is one of the main rules for book readers from the first page:

No comparing the book to the show: e.g. "Well, that's different than in the book where they..."

It's to stop threads from being ruined from book readers upset something was changed or complaining something wasn't done as well.

And so saying they did a poor job of of showing the unrest growing with the Nights Watch falls into that a bit no?
 

xenist

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On a scale of 9 to 10, 9 being "I'm so in love my ears are going to start bleeding" and 10 being "I will cut my own neck before you finish the sentence if you ask me to," how in love is Jorah with Dany? Seriously, in that final shot he looked ready to start kissing her feet. Things aren't going to go well for the guy. He'll either end up dying in some horrible fashion serving her or he'll get frustrated so much he'll betray her.

Simon from Misfits is a super creep. He managed with a single look to join Joffrey and Littlefinger in the "Holy shit what a PRICK!" category. Well played, killing your own people just to fuck with Theon.

Could the revelation that the Bortherhood Without Banners is now worshiping the Lord Of Light mean that red-headed shadow-demon baby mama will be showing up in the North? She is traveling to parts unknown currently. And they do have some royal blood available.

If the world was just, Varys would be running the kingdom. I wouldn't object to a couple of episodes with him just talking with Tyrion and grandmother Tyrell. Which brings me to an observation. This story doesn't have "men" in very high regard, does it? The smart ones are monsters and the valiant ones are doomed, only Varys and Tyrion, both not "normal men," seem worthy of praise.
 
Great episode, some idle speculation/thoughts from a non-book reader.

So Dany has an army, but 8000 soldiers isn't really put into context, is it large enough to do damage? How is she going to make it across the sea? Seems unlikely much will happen this season, maybe she sets sail by the end. This storyline with Dany hasn't gone anywhere in three seasons, it's weird how there seems to be no relation to what she's doing and the rest of the story.

Little finger has an interest in Sansa, didn't Cat once date/know him? Seems like something could be up, unless he really is playing for the Northern Army. If he needs to take the Northern Army he'd need to take out Rob to do it, could be related to the dream below.

No idea how the Tyrell Queen plays into things, she seems important though.

The crow dreams are supposed to predict the future. Cat looks almost dead in that dream, her skin was all messed up and her scarf was covering up her neck. Could be foreshadowing, else what is the point of these dreams? What's the deal with the third eye crow? Something to do with the wall? Do crows represent death in this fiction?
 

Morrigan Stark

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Yeah only in this episode after years (decades?) of following him. There should have been buildup for something that large and it all seemed premature.
You shouldn't be on this thread then.
Relax, he's just explaining something about a scene that already aired.

And so saying they did a poor job of of showing the unrest growing with the Nights Watch falls into that a bit no?
The one who said they did a poor job at showing the unrest was a non-reader. Another one just said "yeah, that was showed better in the book". That's it.


But speaking of spoilers, how do I report the book readers who are claiming they aren't but obviously are? I've seen some in this thread (not saying who obviously, don't want to validate or invalidate any non-reader speculation) and I think they are complete twats, to be honest.
 

Uncle

Member
I believe the armies of both Joffrey, Stannis, and Rob number in the tens of thousands. But still they are not as well trained as the Sullied and have dragons either.

IIRC the numbers given in the first and second season were something like this:

Robb 18k (I'm not sure if this was his whole host or just what he had under his command when he said it)
Tywin 60k
And I think that Renly said something about having 100k

Then there is Stannis, but I can't remember if he has ever talked numbers.

Men have died of course and loyalties have changed, but it does offer some context.
 
I'm confused by the Night Watch stuff. I understand killing that psycho, but why kill your leader and then start fighting each other?

Also kinda disappointed there wasn't a Jon Snow update this episode.

Yeah that was super weird. Killing the incest rapist makes sense, by why the Leader? Is the Nights Watch pretty much over, meaning the wall is defenceless? I can't remember how many of them there are supposed to be.
 
IIRC the numbers given in the first season were something like this:

Robb 18k (I'm not sure if this was his whole host or just what he had under his command when he said it)
Tywin 60k
And I think that Renly said something about having 100k

Then there is Stannis, but I can't remember if he has ever talked numbers.

Men have died of course and loyalties have changed, but it does offer some context.

No I definitely remember the 100k figure from Renly. Then Stannis got that army plus his smaller army. So we can assume the Kings army is much bigger than 8000, the dragons are like big dogs, seems like they could be shot down with arrows or something.

I don't think she can really do anything, she has no ships either. Plus it would radically undermine a lot of existing plot lines in the show is she took over soon. Seems like something that's coming later down the line, but it has to. Be going somewhere, and it can only be going in her capturing kings landing it seems to me.
 

Neki

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Relax, he's just explaining something about a scene that already aired.


The one who said they did a poor job at showing the unrest was a non-reader. Another one just said "yeah, that was showed better in the book". That's it.


But speaking of spoilers, how do I report the book readers who are claiming they aren't but obviously are? I've seen some in this thread (not saying who obviously, don't want to validate or invalidate any non-reader speculation) and I think they are complete twats, to be honest.

pm ThoseDeafMutes
 
I thought the whole "throwing Theron through a loop" was kind of dumb. What was even the point of that? We didn't learn anything about Theron's character that we didn't already know, and he's in the same spot he was in before.
 
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