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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK SPOILERS* |OT| Season 3 - Sundays on HBO [Read the OP]
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I actually thought the scene right before he was back in the cell was a good one. Yes, it wasn't really new info, but I think it was important to hear him say it out load.
It actually made me feel sorry for him for a second. That quickly faded away though.
TheHeretic
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The dude that brought him back shot his own men, was that just to stop the rape?
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Who knows. Maybe he's just trying to bolster his own position. Or maybe he's playing some long con.
It's pretty vague right now.
King in the Bed or the Fuc King? Decisions, decisions.
PM a mod. I took note of something similar. And I ended up derailing the thread a bit because some people started to validate it, and it would've been easier to PM a mod. Let them decide and handle it. I hate people who spoil things. So please any book readers in this thread, don't ruin it for us.
You mean Theon? Sorry for the double post, but I liked it. We got to see him lose his bluster. He realized he's just a dumb moron who wanted to be someone he could never be. And that he betrayed the people who actually cared for him the most. He saw his father for what he was, and I thought it was really poignant when he said his real father died in Kings Landing ie Ned Stark. Really made you sympathize with him, if only for a little while.
Phoenician_Viking
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I knew she understood what he said. Amazing ending. 3 dragons and 10000 loyal fierce soldiers. She is set for winning the war.
Awesome ending. This is shaping up to be my favorite season. It's a bit weird that I find myself feeling sorry for Jamie and Theon when they've both been pretty despicable characters.
I'm interested in seeing where Jaime and Brienne's storyline goes. It's cool seeing them fight for each other instead of against each other. I can't tell if Jaime is actually developing into a halfway decent person or if he is secretly planning on using Brienne for his own ends somehow.
I'm interested in seeing where Jaime and Brienne's storyline goes. It's cool seeing them fight for each other instead of against each other. I can't tell if Jaime is actually developing into a halfway decent person or if he is secretly planning on using Brienne for his own ends somehow.
Angelus Errare
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lol word.
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Same, although I've always had a bit of a soft spot for Theon, he's had to make some pretty tough choices, and in the end he realised he made the wrong one.
I also have similar feelings with Tywin. How can he be a complete asshole one episode and a badass the next? His criticisms of Joffrey and Cersei were spot on, and he always seems to be working, you can't fault him for that.
Also, holy fuck at that ending. Felt like watching some sort of epic Conan movie.
Phoenician_Viking
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The dragons are growing up much too quickly. But since they are important to the story i will over look it.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I don't really understand what's going on with Theon. The only thing I can think of is that maybe everything that is happening to him has been authorised by his sister, as she wants to know what fate met Bran and Rickon, given them being dead at Theon's hand would mean even deeper shit for the Ironborn.
Well considering dragons don't have to abide by human ageing you can't really judge that.
And even then, look at Sansa then and now.
LOLOLOLOLOL @ Theon getting trolled hard! I almost feel bad for him... Okay well he showed remorse for what he did and admitted that Stark was his real daddy. So I do feel a bit bad.
I wonder what the hell that kid who led him around is up to though.
As for Danny... If I were anyone else; I'd welcome my new, very attractive, dragon riding overlord.
Also Sansa has no idea what a pawn she has become. It's sick what's being planned without her even knowing.
I wonder what the hell that kid who led him around is up to though.
As for Danny... If I were anyone else; I'd welcome my new, very attractive, dragon riding overlord.
Also Sansa has no idea what a pawn she has become. It's sick what's being planned without her even knowing.
Are they growing up slowly? I wouldn't know because we don't K ow how fast they are supposed to age. Look how big Harrenhal was, and look at the huge skeleton Arya daw in the dungeon. I actually think they look puny and wouldn't be able to withstand a lot of arrows or something.
I thought the dragons would be like 40 feet tall and able to melt castles etc. So I'm fine with how they look right now. How many years have passed since they were born? It's got to be at least 2 years, because Jamie said he was chained up for a year as well.
I thought this could have been a loyalty test orchestrated by his father, his sister actually does seems to care for him a little and I don't really think she's that cruel. My second theory is the guy who 'rescued' and then returned him did it to increase his reputation with whoever is holding Theon.
it was only Bran though. No one likes Bran
The guy who "saved" Theon was definitely Iron born imo. You see how he killed all those men with his bow? Only an Ironborn could do that or so Theon led us to believe!
Probably saw more profit in returning him though.
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Also the dude complaining about how the episodes feel like tiny taster morsels, thats kind of how the books are set up (or at least book 1). Some characters stories aren't heard from again for several chapters.
Probably saw more profit in returning him though.
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Also the dude complaining about how the episodes feel like tiny taster morsels, thats kind of how the books are set up (or at least book 1). Some characters stories aren't heard from again for several chapters.
Uh what? I'm pretty sure a lot of people would choose pushing a boy out of a window than possible torture/death at the hands of Robert or Tywin. The cousin thing was rough though, especially since he had recited that story about how squiring for Jamie was one of the best days of his life.
It's not depravity, but the human condition to live. You'd be surprised at what humans would do if it was a choice between life and death.
There is no good or evil, just out interpretation of it. No one will remember Ned Stark beheading an innocent boy who told the truth about the white Walkers no? Besides, you don't have to like someone or their actions, to feel empathy when bad things happen to them. When Theon beheaded Ser Roderick I was full of hate for him, same when I thought he burned the boys. But I feel bad for him being tortured.
He was still a deserter from the Night's Watch, white walkers or not. Not an innocent.
oh, and Melisandre [speculation]:
The Brotherhood Without Banners are worshipers of the Red God. Melisandre is looking for someone with King's blood. The smith's apprentice is the bastard of Robert. I'm pretty sure I know where she's heading to now, all the pieces fall into place.
The Brotherhood Without Banners are worshipers of the Red God. Melisandre is looking for someone with King's blood. The smith's apprentice is the bastard of Robert. I'm pretty sure I know where she's heading to now, all the pieces fall into place.
ThoseDeafMutes
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I found the end of today's episode to be very predictable, but I'm still glad it's finally happened. What kind of figures have we seen from other armies? 8,000 infantrymen and 3 small dragons seems quite potent, at least from my recollections. I don't recall hearing them talk about armies larger than 10,000, but I might be mistaken.
Indeed.
Indeed.
He did go to war to protect the arrest an innocent man (Tyrion).
But we can feel empathy for Theon because he really has had the worst of it. Theons the sort of guy that if he lived in this day and age he'd be an alcoholic on a lot of anti-depressants. He's suffered identity crisis his whole life.
Jamie is just a weasel who hasn't a thought for anyone except for his family but mostly himself. Participated in incest, betrayed the king he swore to serve with his life, push a small boy out of the window, when he attacked Ned in the streets he fled the city, tries to buy himself out of everything with his fathers name. Jamie is nothing but a coward
(Maybe I'm looking way too deep into this)
EatChildren
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Jamie is a coward. And a weasel. He's a piece of shit, and supposed to be very unlikable, embodying much of what the Lannisters represent. Just like Cersei. They're villains.
But I also expect him losing his hand and bonding with Brienne will mark a change for his character. His sword hand is gone, exposing his weaknesses, and forcing him to adapt.
Didn't think of that, but it makes sense. The latter point that is. Unless the guy is just a psycho :/.
But I also expect him losing his hand and bonding with Brienne will mark a change for his character. His sword hand is gone, exposing his weaknesses, and forcing him to adapt.
Didn't think of that, but it makes sense. The latter point that is. Unless the guy is just a psycho :/.
Perhaps a lot of people would do what you say they'd do... and they'd still be shitty human beings. Yeah, sure Robert would do terrible things to them, but they knew what they were getting into. Besides, there are other ways of perhaps avoiding Robert's wrath, but since the incestuous Lanisters preferred to keep living in luxury and at the center of power, they found Bran's life to be of less value to them.
Someone mentioned earlier Renly's bannermen were close to 100k which is a number I remember hearing.
I did a quick check on the blu-ray set and the northern army was 20k originally. This probably doesn't include Tully forces and even with them he is still outnumbered by Tywin, or as Robb himself put it "We need our men more than Tywin needs his!".
Bran's death to save your own, your sisters, and possibly your three children's? You think Robert would spare them if he found out they were the product of incest?
It's horrible, but I don't know, I tried to see it from his point of view. The guy Ned Stark beheaded. He fled because he'd be killed. He told everyone the truth, to warn them and help them, to tell what happened to his friends and he was beheaded for it. Because that was the 'law of the land' made it alright?
I have less sympathy for Theon. Killing two children because he wanted to selfishly hold Winterfell. Killing Ser Roderick so that his men would respect him. A guy like Theon is just like Jamie because he they'd do anything to prove their worth.
I agree, these people are monsters but you can empathize with them when they face problems without supporting them.
So many legendary lines this episode.
That whole exchange leading upto to that verbal beatdown was beautiful.
Cavalry will be the Dothraki and the dragons 5 times their current size will be siege and anti siege.
She's going to need a wizard more than anything else. A bunch of necromancers want her dragons and she'll have to contest with the Lord of Light.
She didn't buy them. THink back to the very first episode where she was helping the children at the war orphanage.
Marjory didn't just stop doing good deeds from that point. She's been wrapping the commonfolk around her finger. They even talked about it during last season that she knew how to get the peasantry to love and adore her while she was married to Renly.
Her and her mother amazing.
I thought she couldn't top her faked interest in Joffrey's fetish for death but the best manipulation yet was just flipping an act of kindness into potential profits by snatching away Sanza from Little Finger's influence.
That whole exchange leading upto to that verbal beatdown was beautiful.
Cavalry will be the Dothraki and the dragons 5 times their current size will be siege and anti siege.
She's going to need a wizard more than anything else. A bunch of necromancers want her dragons and she'll have to contest with the Lord of Light.
She didn't buy them. THink back to the very first episode where she was helping the children at the war orphanage.
Marjory didn't just stop doing good deeds from that point. She's been wrapping the commonfolk around her finger. They even talked about it during last season that she knew how to get the peasantry to love and adore her while she was married to Renly.
Her and her mother amazing.
I thought she couldn't top her faked interest in Joffrey's fetish for death but the best manipulation yet was just flipping an act of kindness into potential profits by snatching away Sanza from Little Finger's influence.
RukusProvider
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Tywin is as cold as they come.
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Leader wouldn't stand for it and would try to stop them. These guys are in full rebellion mode. It's like a mutiny.
I really disagree that Theon is anything like Jamie at all.
One is trying to prove his worth to somebody, anybody and loses his mind in the process while the other is just trying to save his own skin most of the time.
The key moment to why anybody should feel sympathy and to pity Theon is the conversation he has with Maester Luwin when Theon has taken over Winterfell. Theon pretty much recognizes how ridiculous of a situation hes gotten himself into but also that there is no way out of it. Not even taking the black.
Theon isn't what he's trying to be and I think GRRM wants us to see that while Jamie actually is what he is.
BobTheFork
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I thought the scenes last week made it very clear the guys torturing Theaon were Bolton's men. They even had that moment where Jamie spelled it out. 'Oh, house Bolton. See that sysmbol, it's the symbol of the flayed man.' Then we see Theon up on the same X in the bolton symbol getting worked over. If his sister is in on this then there's something crazy going on.
They really need to moved Bran's story head IMO. It's not bad but I don't know how much longer they and just show the crazy dreams he's having while talking about the meaning. They have been teasing his dreams since early first season, and they are still pretty much just teasing what's it's all about.
Infinite_Daremo
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Awesome ep.
Theon trolled
Unsullied tearing shit up
Dragons!
Some background on the spider
Cersei realising shes losing power
The hound set up for death
One ep a week isnt enough!
Theon trolled
Unsullied tearing shit up
Dragons!
Some background on the spider
Cersei realising shes losing power
The hound set up for death
One ep a week isnt enough!
BobTheFork
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Yeah I think they made it a bit too obvious what was about to happen with Dany but at least it happened fast. I was expecting her to be in that city all season again. I doubt she is going to just pop up in Westeros in the next few episodes so I wonder what they do with her.
Knowing that orgasm is coming doesn't make it any less awesome.
As for Sansa, at least as far as we know Loras isn't a piece of shit. Just aloof and gay. Compared to Joffrey he's the catch of the century.
robotzombie
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Yeah, I'm also under the impression these were the flayed men. And all that trickery would then make sense because the kid from misfits got info on bran and rickon being alive as well as theon thinking Ned was his true father if Robb would care for such info.
Edit: oh shit I just thought of something, the lord of light worshippers reeaaallly like fire right? And the hound reeaaally doesn't, that doesn't bode well for him
Man, every time I watch this show, I'm just dreading (but enthralled) what happens next. It seems like whichever character is noble and I'm interested in, is guaranteed to have something bad happen to them the next episode. It's quite depressing.
This show actually reminds me of a novel called Three Kingdoms. You would get really interested in a character the chapter before, and by the next chapter, he was dead.
This show actually reminds me of a novel called Three Kingdoms. You would get really interested in a character the chapter before, and by the next chapter, he was dead.
:lol
No way, they are dragging this shit out for as long as possible.
I haven't even read the books but I'm pretty sure Dany won't be in King's Landing anytime soon.
People who think that because she has an army now that she's going to show up in King's Landing in the next episode or even this season are probably going to be disappointed.
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That's what I thought at first but then I remember Theon brought up the kids on his own, he wasn't asked about it. I don't think that dick with him even wanted to know. I reallt think he was just torturing Theon for fun. Plus he got to kill some people with a bow.
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