Nameless
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They weren't slaves. She gave everyone the opportunity to stay or go before she walked into the fire at the end of S1.
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They weren't slaves. She gave everyone the opportunity to stay or go before she walked into the fire at the end of S1.
I don't feel like going quote-hunting, but there were some posters who were saying how his actions didn't make any sense given his "progress" in season 3.
True that, forgot about it. She still pretty much treated them the same way, which is what threw me off.
You missed one of his sex scenes?
demosthenes
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Mine works right at the start.
soundscream
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She is Royalty, everyone would be treated beneath her
LegendofDragoonLives
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Because I am a naive moron. GoT youtube songs I thought would be an exception but alas..
What are people's picks for the Throne in terms of preference:
1. Littlefinger
2. Oberyn Martell
3. Arya Stark
LegendofDragoonLives
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I'm done. Even if it's a video painting or sports and the name Game of Thrones is thrown as a reference, I am not reading any youtube comments. I'm officially tapping out now.
Oh please. that's not true at all.
soundscream
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So she hasn't been ordering people around?
So you're saying an army can exist without any order what-so-ever?
Intheflorsh
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He gets in ONE fight and then he dies because of it... What wasted potential.
Ultimadrago
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Real talk
soundscream
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She isn't just ordering around her Army.
And do you think she doesn't act entitled? Like she doesn't believe she has a claim to some sort of throne by birth right alone?
Of course she does. But that's not she's not acting like everyone is beneath her. There's a very clear difference between the two. The fact that she gives orders is not indicative of that at all.
Braag
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NEVER scroll down when watching a GoT related youtube video.
And NEVER read the comments on any of the stuff found in GoT Facebook page, book readers there are just as bad as in youtube.
In fact stay away from anything GoT related outside of this thread
If you want to play it safe.I think I was just spoiled something for BLANK at youtube video of the Lannister song possibly either regarding this or next season. It could one of two things, I'm quite mad. Nothing is safe these days, even youtube GoT song videos (as I always stay away from anything trailer, or review-based video). It's days like this you ask why there's so many facking assholes in the world.
Maybe it's best if you don't say who the character is because now everyone is going to expect it...I understand you want to vent but I'd rather not know what it was or who it's regarding to.
demosthenes
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NEVER scroll down when watching a GoT related youtube video.
And NEVER read the comments on any of the stuff found in GoT Facebook page, book readers there are just as bad as in youtube.
In fact stay away from anything GoT related outside of this thread
Again. Get extensions on you browser to disable comments. When have you ever wanted to read YT comments?
Braag
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demosthenes
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Didn't know there were such extensions
I know there is for Chrome b/c I use it.
For Chrome: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/spoi-options/bdokagampppgbnjfdlkfpphniapiiifn
I imagine they have them for other browsers.
Honestly it doesn't even matter, I've spoiled by watching random shit that has nothing to do with GoT. Thread about aquatic sponge life, click then somehow a GoT spoiler... fuck you internet. Then I watch a TV show about surviving in the wild, random joke with GoT spoiler... fuck you TV. You're never safe!
Nameless
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Stannis/Melisandre rule for a while before the Throne is taken by Dany. King in the North Rickon conquers the south after she dies.
Chie Satonaka
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The one GoT spoiler I was unfortunate enough to receive was about the fate of Ice.
Such a shame. That sword melted down for Lannister assholes.
Such a shame. That sword melted down for Lannister assholes.
WesternHeretic
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Question about the people north of the wall.
So was the guy John met the leader like the king of all the North of the wall people? Or is he just the king of the Wildlings? Because clearly they are a bunch of freaks, monster, giants etc... to the north. Are they all group up now and ready to invade the wall (like if the 7 kingdoms in westeroes were to be united)?
We saw the wildlings working together with whatever the crap that thing that invaded the village is, where are the giants, white walkers and the others? I mean the wildlings can't really think they can take on 7 kingdoms by themselves right?
So was the guy John met the leader like the king of all the North of the wall people? Or is he just the king of the Wildlings? Because clearly they are a bunch of freaks, monster, giants etc... to the north. Are they all group up now and ready to invade the wall (like if the 7 kingdoms in westeroes were to be united)?
We saw the wildlings working together with whatever the crap that thing that invaded the village is, where are the giants, white walkers and the others? I mean the wildlings can't really think they can take on 7 kingdoms by themselves right?
soundscream
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What are you talking about?
If she thought everyone was equal she wouldn't be claiming herself as the rightful ruler of the 7 kingdoms. She would be championing some sort of democratic system for leadership, not relying on one that places value on your ancestors.
Just because she's nice about it doesn't mean she doesn't believe she is above her followers.
Steelyuhas
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The Wildlings are what the Night's Watch and the people of Westeros call people that live north of the wall. They are a variety of different tribes of people. Mance has united them and they call him their King.
Mance tells Jon a bit about uniting the tribes in this scene. Beyond getting South for their own safety, we as the audience haven't been told much.
I don't think the Wildlings intend to take on the entirety of the seven kingdoms. They just want to get south of the wall before winter comes and the White Walkers kill them all.
WesternHeretic
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Ah okay makes a lot more sense now if they are just trying to go South for winter.
According to http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Wildling
Wildinglings is just a term for the "free folks" aka the regular humans like Ygritte.
White Walkers were something that not many have seen, and the giants are a myth.
Yea so I was wonder if Mance united everyone as in all the tribes or just the regular humans "free folks." We saw the "Thenn" helping out Ygritte and company at the village, but we haven't seen them work with the White Walkers or Giants (in battle but we saw them together at camp). If Mance united everyone, then obviously everyone South need to put their shit aside and work together to fight those guys off, if it just the "free folk *humans" then Winterfell probably could handle it themselves (well when they had Starks anyways).
Edit: Ah just re watched the scene. So he said he has 90 tribes/clan with 7 different languages. I guess that mean he has everyone.. because he mention working together with Cannibals (Thenn's) and Giants.
According to http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Wildling
Wildinglings is just a term for the "free folks" aka the regular humans like Ygritte.
White Walkers were something that not many have seen, and the giants are a myth.
Yea so I was wonder if Mance united everyone as in all the tribes or just the regular humans "free folks." We saw the "Thenn" helping out Ygritte and company at the village, but we haven't seen them work with the White Walkers or Giants (in battle but we saw them together at camp). If Mance united everyone, then obviously everyone South need to put their shit aside and work together to fight those guys off, if it just the "free folk *humans" then Winterfell probably could handle it themselves (well when they had Starks anyways).
Edit: Ah just re watched the scene. So he said he has 90 tribes/clan with 7 different languages. I guess that mean he has everyone.. because he mention working together with Cannibals (Thenn's) and Giants.
chicko1983
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You can be a king or queen with paid servants and not slaves.
BigJonsson
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I don't know how badly Dany wants the throne anymore, she seems to like freeing slaves
She isn't just out for revenge/her brother forcing her into it anymore
She isn't just out for revenge/her brother forcing her into it anymore
soundscream
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Wasn't talking about slaves. The discussion was whether or not she felt like she was above the people following her.
She's claiming that she's the rightful ruler because she is. That's the law in westeros. If westeros is using a democratic system and she refuses it, then yes you may have a point. But that's kind of like saying a person is greedy because he was robbed of his inheritance and he's fighting to get it back.
The Smoking Bun
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Question: Is Mance "The Lance" Raider uniting the tribes to fight the White Walkers or smply doing a mass migration to Southern lands for safety?
Free slaves and you'll have more loyal followers.
Cornballer
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New episode tonight:
Dany = Baberaham Lincoln.
AuthenticM
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Probably both. Maybe he thinks that by going south, he'll be able to fight the walkers alongside the other armies. But if that's his plan, he's not doing himself a favor by allowing his troops to murder everyone in their path. Why didn't he simply send birds to every leader in Westeros telling them: "listen, whatever beef we had with each other, we'll put aside until we deal with this threat."
Right now, he's only cementing his grave. As Jon said, eventually Raider's army will clash with the Kingdom's army, and he'll lose.
The Smoking Bun
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Oh good, more
Adventures of Brandon Xavier and Discount Hulk
HAHAHA! Also, nice spoiler dude! Can't wait for the theatre episode!
I am joking
She really doesn't. Anyone is free to go whenever they want to and do whatever they want to do and she treats all of them much better than slavers do. They aren't slaves much like real-life unpaid volunteers aren't slaves.
The Cowboy
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We needed so much more (he got off so lightly), it should have been a full episode of him being tortured by Ramsay
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iNvid02
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it felt really good to watch at the time, the poison seemed like it was painful. but i always hoped he would feel some cold steel
soundscream
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Why is she the rightful ruler?
The Targaryens seized power they weren't anointed with it, Stannis has as much a claim as she does.
And this still doesn't change the fact that she sees herself as above those who follow her, as any noble person does. Because if they honestly thought the lowest of the low in their service was there equal how could they reconcile having them bow down to their commands.
Goodacre0081
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The Targs united the 7 kingdoms to become the rightful rulers. Stannis's only claim is that his brother kicked the shit out of the Targs and then got drunk and died.
Stannis has some Targblood himself. His grandmother is the daughter of the brother of maester Aemon (Targaryen) . (Can you still follow) To clarify:
And since there are no Targaryens in Westeros at the moment... His claim is stronger than you think!
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