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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK SPOILERS* |OT| Season 4 - Sundays on HBO [Read the OP]
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LegendofDragoonLives
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Sansa and Arya will meet I feel. A nice dynamic there for the making. I'm guessing Arya goes to Brave after she sees her sister.
Maester Aemon at Castle Black. I believe that was revealed last season to Jon.Two?Whose the other one?
Obviously he's the only one that knows.
So obviously I don't want the real answers or spoilers but I've been trying to theorize to myself what exactly the White Walkers are. From the white walker turning the baby into a white walker we can assume they were all at point human or did it start some other way? Interesting stuff honestly.
I believe so. Jon and Brandon's wolves are both near Craster's Keep now. Rickon's wolf is with him and Osha. Arya's is MIA but presumed to be living.
I imagine we'll see Jon fight Locke at some point soon, too, I'm looking forward to that.
Nameless
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Yeah I want to know more about the Robed Walkers. They come across like some White Walker elder council.
13 Boss boss-battle incoming?
AuthenticM
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And Arya's wolf is still missing, after she wished her away back in season 1. I wonder if we'll see her again. It would be a good plot twist, to have her save Arya at the best opportune moment.
13 is an unlucky number right?Yeah I want to know more about the Robed Walkers. They come across like some White Walker elder council.
13 Boss boss-battle incoming?
Nameless
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It certainly was for Jesus's troop.
Actually that's from way back in Season 1 when he reveals he's Aemon Targaryen. I think it was when Jon was complaining about Ned being dead, his sisters captive, and Robb marching South, but he couldn't join. Then Aemon opens up about the rebellion that killed Rhaegar, Elia, and their children and how he couldn't do anything but sit on the Wall.
There you go.
Last season was a blur to me. It's the only one that I only watched once.
DrFaustPhD
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Well, if Jon finds Bran before finding reason to fuck up Locke, it seems likely Locke would have a good opportunity to kill Bran and just run off. Locke could even choose to kill Jon (since he is half Stark and charismatic). The situation he's put himself in would make it easy to just stab Jon in the back. Their party is small and he's a confident swordsman, he might believe he can take them all if necessary (gets caught killing Bran and/or Jon)
Of course, killing Bran's body might not equate to killing Bran, as he could potentially inhabit Hodor or Summer (or so I speculate).
On a positive note for the Starks though, it does seem probable that Arya and Sansa will meet before the end of the season.
DrFaustPhD
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I definitely got the impression that Jaime wants Brienne to uphold the Oath and keep the Stark girl(s) safe.
Also, going back to the very beginning of the show, Jaime is totally a bigger douche than Jofferey; first episode he non-chalantly pushes Bran out a window and then swaggers back on over to his sister. It takes Jofferey a whole season to go: rat faced kid -> entitled brat -> out of control moron with too much power, chopping off cool dude's heads for bad reasons.
Also, going back to the very beginning of the show, Jaime is totally a bigger douche than Jofferey; first episode he non-chalantly pushes Bran out a window and then swaggers back on over to his sister. It takes Jofferey a whole season to go: rat faced kid -> entitled brat -> out of control moron with too much power, chopping off cool dude's heads for bad reasons.
You're right. I've just had a theory for a while that involved Littlefinger getting support from the Iron Bank to kill Joffrey and bring chaos to Westeros from which he could capitalize.
I was only half right.
Preview:
From the preview it seems that Littlefinger does indeed go to the Vale to join Lysa, so he's got the Tyrells, the Tullys and Sansa - the key to the North - on his side, which is a very powerful alliance.
Pretty sure she's going to protect her. Would be out of character for her to go there to harm her in any way.
Yeah they lost my GF on that. Ive been trying desperately to get her into the show, and this was maybe her 3rd episode ever.
The white walker stuff may have killed any hope I had.
I think you lost her when you decided to have her start on Season 4
I thought he might be sending Brienne to retrieve Sansa under the guise that she's in danger (kidnappers, etc), so that he can then turn Sansa into Cersei, satisfying her desire for revenge. He swore an oath with Caitlin to return her daughters, but didn't he also swear another oath to his sister in the last episode? I want to believe Jamie can be redeemed, but which of those oaths is he more likely to keep?
Maybe I'm just expecting this worst (this is GOT, after all), but I don't see him suddenly caring about Sansa like that. I'm only speculating but I don't recall him being shown giving Brienne specific orders other than to keep her safe.
I really hope Jamie actually did turn around. I feel like he believes his brother and doesn't think Sansa would've done it. Plus I don't think he'd want to disappoint Breanne and she wouldn't take too kindly to being used. Who the fuck know with this show though.
Also did we pretty much get confirmation that Margaery's mother was behind the murder?
Also did we pretty much get confirmation that Margaery's mother was behind the murder?
Yes, for her, but Jaimie might use her ..
For this.
I dont know what to make of their goodbye. He seemed sad, but for what reasons?
DrFaustPhD
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I interpreted it as Jaime being sad that he may never see Brienne again, who is a person he has developed a meaningful bond with, meanwhile his bond with his sister fading no matter how hard he might try to hold on. Brienne is probably one of the very few people that sees the good in Jaime and has a genuine respect for him (and vice versa), not because of his family and position.
Stevetopsy
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Yeah they lost my GF on that. Ive been trying desperately to get her into the show, and this was maybe her 3rd episode ever.
The white walker stuff may have killed any hope I had.
Only her 3rd episode? That's not even an episode per season. Of course she's not interested.. she doesn't know about or have any attachment to anything that's going on.
I can't even imagine what it would be like to just jump in now. There's like 50 characters and some you don't see for episodes at a time. She'll know about some deaths that will happen but she should really try it from episode 1.
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I honestly believe Jaime is trying to turn his shit around. Everything from being imprisoned to losing his hand to realizing his name isn't worth crap in that thick ass Kingsguard tome has probably forced him to reevaluate his sorry lot in life.
BuggyDClown
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Why dont they make his spare hand into a weapon or sheild? Seems obvious.
Jaime said a hook would be more practical but Cersei wanted him to wear something that hides his shame.
RoninChaos
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I kind of figured they were some kind of civilization that's been around for a while. They were the reason the wall was built, right? And I remember them saying the wall was built with magic, so I'm guessing the white walkers might be some kind of magical tribe. The show has alluded to a lot of gods, and we've seen the lord of light bring somebody back that was cleaved in half so I'm guessing they're some super old race of people with magical abilities. They obviously aren't just mindless zombies.
Somehow i think it will return to Jaimie. I have a feeling Breanne might not be for long. And the "oathkeeper" will get back in his hands. With a new oath to keep perhaps?
Yeah I'm sure it's him. Was he in season 3? I watched season 3 after watching Pacific Rim, and it's funny how I never noticed him.
The White Walkers are confusing me. I thought they were marching on the Wall last season but now they seem to be going about business as usual. I thought winter was coming.
My guess is that they're waiting for winter to actually come.
Yeah, he's the one who started the mutiny and stabbed Craster in Season 3
Ok that's what I thought. Little finger mentioned the necklace and then when she played with Margarey's I figured it was here.
Fuck I can't wait until next week. I loved the show before but these season I'm really into for some reason.
yea i thought that whole thing with Same was them marching at the wall. How did Sam beat them to the wall? did they change their mind?
StrangeADT
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Burn Gorman is Willem Dafoe reborn. I almost mistook him if it wasn't for the age difference.
They marched on the Fist of the First Men, where the Night's Watch were encamped, and routed them. After that, guess they went home.
Braag
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It's the small council of white walkers.
gotta make some more ice zombie babiesThey marched on the Fist of the First Men, where the Night's Watch were encamped, and routed them. After that, guess they went home.
Oh snap, you're right!He was also in TDKR.
Question:
This most recent episode we learn that Granny Tyrell was working with Baelish to assassinate Joffrey right?
But weren't these two factions competing for Sansa? When Baelish tried to take her away last season, the Tyrells responded by trying to get Sansa married to Loras before Tywin forced Tyrion to marry her?
Why would these two work together?
This most recent episode we learn that Granny Tyrell was working with Baelish to assassinate Joffrey right?
But weren't these two factions competing for Sansa? When Baelish tried to take her away last season, the Tyrells responded by trying to get Sansa married to Loras before Tywin forced Tyrion to marry her?
Why would these two work together?
Common enemy.
DrFaustPhD
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Sansa is only a piece in a much larger game. They must've discussed a compromise that was mutually beneficial.
Also, while I'm not certain since it's been a while since watching season 3, but didn't Sansa choose not to flee King's Landing before being offered to Loras?
Stevetopsy
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I wasn't really a big fan of Grandma Tyrell's reason for doing it. She says she didn't want her to marry a psycho. Okay, you could have atleast waited until they consumated the marriage and then even had someone else get Margery pregnant and say it was Joffrey's. That way at least she will stay queen.
Now she has to sneak all around and work her ass off to woo Tommen and if she's caught Cersei will probably have her killed.
I'm hoping there will be some third party that was involved with a better reason or something.
Now she has to sneak all around and work her ass off to woo Tommen and if she's caught Cersei will probably have her killed.
I'm hoping there will be some third party that was involved with a better reason or something.
You're assuming she would have had unlimited future opportunities to kill the king and get away with it, and that Joffrey wouldn't have started abusing Margarey right away. That asexual psycho would have probably wanted to consumate the marriage with his crossbow.
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