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Gamesindustry.biz - How to maintain progress against a DEI backlash
Lambogenie
Member
Please just stop and find a more meaningful job. The reality is sometimes you need same sometimes you don't because that might stop growth.
HogIsland
Member
Got deleted. Politics thread is political.
Topher
Identifies as young
"Studies have constantly demonstrated that diverse teams outperform homogenous ones for instance companies with high racial diversity are 35% more likely to have the financial returns above the industry mean inclusive companies are 1.7 times more like likely to be Innovation leaders and varied perspectives breed Innovation creativity and problem solving approaches that are essential in today's rapidly evolving Market landscape"
If this "study" had found that companies with less diversity had higher returns, etc. then it would never see the light of day as it would be deemed entirely racist. What good is any study where the outcome is predetermined? But even if this study were accurate on some level, then are we saying race-based hiring is justified if a company sees financial returns?
No. DEI advocates can't have it both ways. Hiring based on race is racist. Doesn't matter if the speaker in the OP can spin it as good for profits or not.
If this "study" had found that companies with less diversity had higher returns, etc. then it would never see the light of day as it would be deemed entirely racist. What good is any study where the outcome is predetermined? But even if this study were accurate on some level, then are we saying race-based hiring is justified if a company sees financial returns?
No. DEI advocates can't have it both ways. Hiring based on race is racist. Doesn't matter if the speaker in the OP can spin it as good for profits or not.
bundylove
Gold Member
Please no more DEI treads. I cant contain it any longer and are about to unleash my 10 page long honest opinion with a nice ban right after.
DEI is dead. Lgbqueef is dead..
The world has spoken. Elections have spoken and proved people reject it world wide.
So lets just watch it burn to the ground and stop spreading the lgbqueef propaganda
DEI is dead. Lgbqueef is dead..
The world has spoken. Elections have spoken and proved people reject it world wide.
So lets just watch it burn to the ground and stop spreading the lgbqueef propaganda
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Saber
Member
These guys are masters of manipulative tatics. It's probably a "good and necessary racism" in their eyes.
Damn, I could risk even said that they would totally advocate a war and slavery if it was for "the greater good".
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DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
There are so many ways you can lie and twist the information to make it look like “DEI = good for business”.
If you have a strictly meritocratic hiring + promotion process, and your company has a culture of professionalism and respect for everyone regardless of their race/religion/gender/sexuality, then chances are you’re going to end up with a diverse workforce that is highly effective.
Whereas if you have some top-down DEI initiative for making hiring/promotion decisions based on DEI and measuring your success by some diversity metric, good luck with that.
Also I’d LOL so hard if you drilled down deeper in these statistics and found that the strongest correlation was something like “companies that hire the most Indian immigrants have the highest profit margins” or something.
OccamsLightsaber
Regularly boosts GAF member count to cry about 'right wing gaf' - Voter #3923781
Ya'll are never betting the woman hating allegations 
diffusionx
Gold Member
if this were true, then hedge funds and other big traders would have figured it out years ago and went long on the racially diverse companies and clean up, because those companies would be massively underpriced in the market. That didn't happen because it's not true. These studies were put out by McKinsey to tell the executives paying them millions of dollars what they wanted to hear, post 2020. You can't just say that people of European descent need to go, that is blatantly illegal (to be sure, many of them did it anyway, but it is illegal), you need a financial justification. So that's why they cooked up these studies.
Here is a thorough refutation of those studies: https://maycontainlies.com/discernment-matters-even-more/
In short, the way the study was conducted basically says that companies can invest in "diversity" as a luxury, when they have the fat cash flow and strong financial performance to where they can focus on it instead of the core business. And, you know, broadly speaking, in 2020, we had ZIRP, companies riding high, tons of ESG money floating around as well as Blackrock compelling companies to do it (Larry Fink bragged about this), people locked at home stuck consuming whatever slop the companies put in front of you with that ESG money, the whole world was different, but it was ample breeding ground for the luxury situation that led to companies investing in diversity, WITH the political situation demanding it.
Just anecdotally, Ubisoft purged their leadership ranks in the early 20s when they found out French guys like to hit on women. They also started touting the amazing diversity and representation that is at the core of everything they do. Now, a few years later, they're doomed. Their stock is down 90% and they will probably be cut up and sold off for parts when AC Shadows bombs in a couple months. And you look at the games that led to this, and it is a gender swapped Han Solo game (I'll never not believe this) and a black samurai chopping off Japanese peoples' heads in Japan to rap music. So, there you go.
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GHG
Member
It's the same thing, but these people are so ridiculously sensitive that they couldn't agree on the order of the letters in the acronym.
Some people place more importance on the E than the D, so will say that the E deserves to be said before the D.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Denton
Member
It is interesting how this "DEI" "diversity" bullshit is pushed exclusively in (ex)European nations.
Go to India, China, Japan, any asian or african country really, and preach at them about their lacking diversity.
1) They would laught you out of the room
2) You would never do that, because they are already "diverse" even then they are 100% homogenous
It is almost as if "diversity" was actually code word for "anti-white".
Go to India, China, Japan, any asian or african country really, and preach at them about their lacking diversity.
1) They would laught you out of the room
2) You would never do that, because they are already "diverse" even then they are 100% homogenous
It is almost as if "diversity" was actually code word for "anti-white".
HogIsland
Member
lol who's even making an attempt?Ya'll are never betting the woman hating allegations
does Blackrock and Vanguard have infinite money or there is a shady thing going here? There is a crazy theory about lending money to everyone who forces ESG and then see them go down to buy them for cheap and rein supreme
semiconscious
Member
thanks, op. this's the same ol' 'create a problem, then become the solution' scam these university-bred grifters've been running on the rest of us since whenever. a book recommendation about 'these people':
https://www.amazon.com/Have-Never-B...qid=1734976590&sprefix=we+have,aps,350&sr=8-1
they don't really believe in this crap any more than you do. that shit's for suckers. they're just just taking all of us for a ride, & enriching themselves in the process. pure grift...
https://www.amazon.com/Have-Never-B...qid=1734976590&sprefix=we+have,aps,350&sr=8-1
they don't really believe in this crap any more than you do. that shit's for suckers. they're just just taking all of us for a ride, & enriching themselves in the process. pure grift...
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Windom Earle
Member
DEI Karen GTFO
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Oh no, they do
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
It's also illegal and you are going to start seeing a lot more lawsuits coming out in the next several months/years.
Starbucks discrimination lawsuit awarded white employee $25 million: Legal experts weigh in
Shannon Phillips received $25.6 million in damages after a six-day trial.
abcnews.go.com
Jury awards $10 million to White hospital executive who claimed discrimination
North Carolina-based hospital system says verdict not supported by the evidence and it will likely appeal the ruling.
www.cbsnews.com
Humdinger
Gold Member
Yup.
From that article:
Wow. Not only did they confuse correlation with causation, they even screwed up their correlational data.
The article covers many other methodological flaws, but that's a whopper.
Exactly.
The article does a good job of covering the many methodological flaws and ethical lapses in this research. Reminds me of big-pharma funded research, only with fewer scruples.
Bonus quote:
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GHG
Member
Who exactly is the "you" here?
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
These people live inside tiny ultra woke/progressive bubbles in a handful of western countries but nevertheless believe they speak for the entire world .... That makes them using terms like "global citizens" and "global community" even more ludicrous.
GTFO with that crap man
You telling me the only way to cater to women is to make butch lesbian characters?
Gaming has more than 30 years already, if they don't care, they don't care, this is like sports, some minor % of women dig sports in general, majority don't give a flying fuck, same way majority of men don't care about soap operas while a minority do, you won't see producers change their formulas making these telenovelas to cater men, because they know their audience, idk why it's so difficult to understand
Angry_Megalodon
Member
45% of Genshin Impact players are female. Infinity Nikki, the last successful gacha, is mostly funded by women. Female gamers dislike DEI bullshit almost as much as men do.
It's fucking crazy to suggest that women feel "represented" by guys cosplaying as women.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
